Need help picking a winner...new Model 70's with old action style..


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pazsint
February 9, 2006, 01:30 PM
I'm thinking with Winchester being a thing of the past, one of those new Model 70's built on the old 70 action might be a good one to own..any opinions?

Also my dealer has them for $650..is that a good price?
He has 3 left: a stainless .270 , a stainless .300 Short Mag, and a blued .300 Ultra Mag...which of these 3 might be the best caliber/gun to invest in for collector potential?

Thanks...Dan in :confused: PA

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USSR
February 9, 2006, 02:18 PM
pazsint,

Chances are those rifles are the new CRPF actions and not the CRF (pre-'64 type) that you seek.

Don

jonnyringo
February 9, 2006, 04:49 PM
Get one. It may be a CRF because they made them recently and the CRPF are great rifles too.

pazsint
February 9, 2006, 06:17 PM
Don and Jonny....How do I tell the difference between the CRF and the CRPF actions? Were both types made in recent years?
Thanks..Dan

The Real Hawkeye
February 9, 2006, 06:29 PM
I'm thinking with Winchester being a thing of the past, one of those new Model 70's built on the old 70 action might be a good one to own..any opinions?

Also my dealer has them for $650..is that a good price?
He has 3 left: a stainless .270 , a stainless .300 Short Mag, and a blued .300 Ultra Mag...which of these 3 might be the best caliber/gun to invest in for collector potential?

Thanks...Dan in :confused: PAYou are referring to the "Classic" action, which is not an old action, but an approximation of the pre-1964 Model 70 Action. Close, but not quite it. Still an excellent action, and worthy of owning. The .270 is the best of those you listed. No one knows if anyone will even be manufacturing ammo for the other two in ten years. The .270 has been around since before WWII, and will be around well into the new millennium. It's a classic and is all the power and range you need for hunting in North America, except for the big bears of Alaska, and if needed, given a good bullet choice, it could even be pressed into service for them.

As for distinguishing the actions, Controlled Round Feed (CRF) will have a large claw extractor, and the bolt face will not be totally enclosed, i.e., there will be a gap in the enclosure at the bottom for picking the round up from the mag as it moves forward. This is the most desirable action type in the Model 70s, and will have the highest collector value for sure, but the other action type is excellent as well, if you just want it for your own use and are not thinking of a collector's item.

Chawbaccer
February 9, 2006, 06:40 PM
Controlled round push feed
http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/features/images/crpf2_m.jpg

Controlled round
http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/features/images/crf_m.jpg

You can see the difference in the extractor, The controlled round hads the big claw visible at the bottom, the CRPF has a reg push feed extractor.
A regular push feed would have the plunger in the bolt instead of the ejector cut.

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