New Minuteman group focuses on radiological surveillance


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Waitone
February 10, 2006, 07:56 PM
Seems that a group of former special operations types has decided to form a security company which features surveillance for radiological bad actors.

Here is a piece on the announcement
http://newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty126.htm

and here is the web site of RLS International Security.
http://www.rlsinternationalsecurity.com/index.html

What is of interest is the helicopter packed full of Buck Rogers stuff useful in tracking down radiological contraband. Sorta makes me wonder why the federales haven't done so. Maybe it has and just failed to mention it. Will be interesting to follow.

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Biker
February 10, 2006, 08:41 PM
Yeah Waitone, I posted this in an earlier thread and folks questioned Wooldridge and the source. Gotta wonder...
Good to see ya watching out for America too.:)
Biker

Double Naught Spy
February 10, 2006, 08:42 PM
Oh I get it. We can't trust the government to protect from

... the Muslim terrorists crossing those borders and holding up in Muslim mosques around this country. What you canít see are the weapons they stock-pile such as grenade launchers and C-4 explosives.

We cannot and will not wait for the next 9/11. We must move as citizens to protect ourselves. Since our president and Congress refuse to do the job they swore on a Bible to do, we will do it in spite of them.

Muslims hiding in mosques and bringing in all sorts of munitions, as noted in the first article, so these folks are looking for nuclear materials. What a bunch of morons!!!

Just how are their efforts to search for WMDs radiologically going to stop Muslims, Hispanics, or anyone else? They won't.

Just how are their efforts going to stop weapons, grenade launchers, and C-4 explosives? They won't.

Just how will their efforts stop biological WMDs? They won't.

Just how will their efforts stop chemical WMDs? They won't.

I find it interesting that a group complaining about the government saying they will do for us what the government won't do hasn't quite taken into account some of the possible Constitutional implications of illegal searches.

They say they can't wait for another 9/11 to happen and so they are working to make sure it doesn't. Just what the hell is their system going to do to stop hijacked airplanes. NOTHING.

So they will fly a helicopter around with radiological gear to look for nuclear materials being brought into the country illegally. Great. There is some 1200+ miles of border with Mexico and one helicopter. I have no doubt they will be effective.

Of course, since they are making their actions known and since their plan is ONLY for the Mexican border, just what are they actually protecting?

How stupid does the president think we are? Short answer: pretty stupid or gullible or both!

Well, they got that part right. No doubt the President does think that the people of the Civil Defense Corps on the border are pretty stupid, gullible, or both.

I, for one, feel safer knowing these guys are out there protecting me from nuclear WMDs should any ever come across the border at the specific location where they happen to have their helicopter at the time. While nuclear bombs are a threat, I really like how they picked one of the few types of threat to guard against and it is the one type of threat that is least likely to be used.

I have no doubt they will deploy a group to Roswell to protect against the risk of space aliens bringing in nuclear WMDs from outer space. After all, the Bush administration has done nothing about the space alien incursions into the US or attempted to stop the kidnapping of American citizens used as medical test subjects on alien spacecraft. I will sleep more soundly as soon as they have folks in Roswell.

Biker
February 10, 2006, 08:54 PM
Oh I get it. We can't trust the government to protect from





Muslims hiding in mosques and bringing in all sorts of munitions, as noted in the first article, so these folks are looking for nuclear materials. What a bunch of morons!!!

Just how are their efforts to search for WMDs radiologically going to stop Muslims, Hispanics, or anyone else? They won't.

Just how are their efforts going to stop weapons, grenade launchers, and C-
4 explosives? They won't.

Just how will their efforts stop biological WMDs? They won't.

Just how will their efforts stop chemical WMDs? They won't.

I find it interesting that a group complaining about the government saying they will do for us what the government won't do hasn't quite taken into account some of the possible Constitutional implications of illegal searches.

They say they can't wait for another 9/11 to happen and so they are working to make sure it doesn't. Just what the hell is their system going to do to stop hijacked airplanes. NOTHING.

So they will fly a helicopter around with radiological gear to look for nuclear materials being brought into the country illegally. Great. There is some 1200+ miles of border with Mexico and one helicopter. I have no doubt they will be effective.

Of course, since they are making their actions known and since their plan is ONLY for the Mexican border, just what are they actually protecting?



Well, they got that part right. No doubt the President does think that the people of the Civil Defense Corps on the border are pretty stupid, gullible, or both.

I, for one, feel safer knowing these guys are out there protecting me from nuclear WMDs should any ever come across the border at the specific location where they happen to have their helicopter at the time. While nuclear bombs are a threat, I really like how they picked one of the few types of threat to guard against and it is the one type of threat that is least likely to be used.

I have no doubt they will deploy a group to Roswell to protect against the risk of space aliens bringing in nuclear WMDs from outer space. After all, the Bush administration has done nothing about the space alien incursions into the US or attempted to stop the kidnapping of American citizens used as medical test subjects on alien spacecraft. I will sleep more soundly as soon as they have folks in Roswell.

Well, I guess if you chose to look at the root of this particular problem which is the wide open southern border, you might see that we could stop 1000s of OTMs from crossing the border *with* any number of weapons, WMD or otherwise, if Bush chose to.
However, you choose not to. Your choice.
Biker

Standing Wolf
February 10, 2006, 09:05 PM
What is of interest is the helicopter packed full of Buck Rogers stuff useful in tracking down radiological contraband. Sorta makes me wonder why the federales haven't done so.

The federales are too busy trying to keep a very close eye on gun shows, since after all, the terrorist might by .50 caliber rifles at them.

longeyes
February 11, 2006, 01:23 AM
Doesn't this fall into the category of radiation profiling? Someone call the ACLU.

Double Naught Spy
February 11, 2006, 09:43 PM
Well, I guess if you chose to look at the root of this particular problem which is the wide open southern border, you might see that we could stop 1000s of OTMs from crossing the border *with* any number of weapons, WMD or otherwise, if Bush chose to.
However, you choose not to. Your choice.
Biker

No, I just thought it was amazing that the article identified several very specific problems that were considered to be threats that were noted to justify how unprotected the border is, but that instead of dealing with the apparent large scale known problems, they want to address an unknown problem.

So not only is Bush supposedly not protecting us from Mosques full of Muslim terrorists stockpiled with weapons and explosives, but neither is this new security group that doesn't want to address a big part of the problem they use to justify their need.

So maybe I missed the answer somewhere, just how is all this sophisticated radiological equipment that is looking for nuclear materials going to locate the terrorists and their stockpiles of weapons and explosives that are not radiological?

I can answer this for you. Unless nuclear materials are being stockpiled or transported in tandem with these other materials, then the buck rogers stuff isn't going to do squat to mitigate the threats identified.

I like philosophical dichotomy. When Bush orders snooping within American borders as part of the Patriot Act in order to protect the US from potential terroristic threats that have managed to make it into America, people whine that such things are unconstitutional and unamaerican. Apparently because Bush isn't doing enough snooping, this group comes along and will do the job that Bush's people won't do.

Sorry, but I don't trust said folks to operate within the Constitution and actually behave in a legal manner. At least government has some checks and balances. These guys are freelance and don't answer to anybody.

I have to admit, I might have been more swayed had the article taken the spin that there is a serious gap in our border protection against radiological materials being illegally imported into the US and that the group would like to mitigate the risk by helping to identify such contraband and report to the authorities. Instead, they yapped all about Bush not being able to stop Muslim terrorists, weapons, and explosives being smuggled into the US and stockpiled, but they're doing nothing to stop those aspects either. What a joke.

longeyes
February 11, 2006, 09:47 PM
Two things are "radioactive" for George Bush:

Saudi Arabia and Mexico.

DO NOT TOUCH.

Ares45
February 11, 2006, 10:54 PM
The US goverment has had dedicated NBC (nuc/bio/chem) search/action teams for years. NEST = Nuclear Emergency Search Team. And they do more than just search for it. For obvious reasons you don't hear a lot about them.


I find it hard to believe that this private company is going to get in on the action when a credible threat arises. The affected population might as well be sheeple because the goverment won't say a word but you can bet your rear that this private organization won't be able to get within 200 miles of the threat area. The US government has these cool little toys called F-15's and they fly this thing called CAP...

walking arsenal
February 11, 2006, 10:59 PM
Radiological monitoring used to be our job. We still have a case full of the equipment at the unit. Geiger counters and such. Wonder if i still know how to use it.

www.cap.gov

Waitone
February 12, 2006, 01:38 AM
I think what the group is about is to publicize their "findings". They evidently think fed.gov is entirely too quick to deny lots of things related to terrorism. Seems to me the group wants to have minimal evidence of a nuclear threat arising inside the US then use that info to beat fed.gov over the head.

Can't say I disagree. I think the federales are doing everyone a disservice by putting a happy face on about terrorism in the US. These guys can go a long way to putting to the lie a lot of what passes for news and official positions.

Merkin.Muffley
February 12, 2006, 02:47 AM
Aren't these the "vigilantes" identified by President Bush. They should keep their noses out of government business - and let's face it - bringing illegal immigrants into this country is big business.

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