[Thirties]

Very difficult to get a decent price from local dealers around here, so I'm thinking of trying to sell a gun over the internet.

In the past I sold a gun almost accidentally by replying to a WTB at a specific interest firearm bulletin board.

I'm not going to mention type of gun or brand, as I don't want to break any rules here.

But where should I go for a clean and honest place to either list, and/or sell my handgun?

your opinions are requested . . .

[TarpleyG]

gunbroker.com
auctionarms.com

[Brian Williams]

go to buy and sell right here on TheHighroad

[Handy]

gunsamerica.com (I like to shop there, anyway)

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semi4sale.cgi is another good one. Lots of listings on one page.


The problem with selling here is that the page isn't so big, and it's for every kind of handgun, so it cycles very fast giving you little exposure.

Another good rule of thumb is to advertise your weapon on a bulletin board for that brand. Sig on Sigforum.com, etc.

[Standing Wolf]

I've had good success buying through GunBroker.com.

[Kruzr]

http://www.hunt4ever.com

Reliable and competitive prices.

[beemerb]

Remember if you are selling a handgun you have to get a FFL to ship it for you.If its a long gun you can ship it to a FFL only.
These are federal regs.
Bob

[Jim March]

When you want to sell at a fixed, fair price, THR itself is OK or www.gunsamerica.com is the largest non-auction listing system out there.

For auctions, if that's your thing, www.gunbroker.com or www.auctionarms.com are good.

[Handy]

Beemarb is incorrect. You can ship a handgun yourself directly to an FFL dealer, but it can't go by Post. Only the receiver HAS to be an FFL.

[MoNsTeR]

As a buyer, I prefer GunsAmerica. Gunbroker is OK, but I don't like the auction format for guns. Buying from individuals selling in forums like this one is also OK too, though there's no accountability mechanism.

[beemerb]

Handy;
Prove that to me.
Bob

[scdavis0]

beebmarb, I got a better idea; how bout you go look at the pertinent laws regarding shipping handguns.

[beemerb]

I have, that is why I want it proven to me in black and white.All laws and ATF sights saw a handgun must go FFL to FFL.Show me where it says different.I want to know that why I asked for proof.I realy didn't need a sarcastic comeback when my asking was plain and simple.
Bob

[PCRCCW]

You dont need us to prove it to you....I do it all of the time.
I was raised by a "still a class 3 dealer" and weve covered this many times...."The gun must be recieved by a Licensed FFL dealer when an out of state transfer takes place!"
What you believe is what other dealers try to pass of as the law so they can charge you a not so small fee to do the transfer for you......
Look it up...Im not gonna prove it to you.....:D :rolleyes
shoot well

[GunNut]

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state

Go here and learn what you need. ATF Firearms FAQ's (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/index.htm)

I believe some states do require a gun to be sent from an FFL to an FFL interstate. Then again who would purposely live in MA, CA, DC and a few others.

Steve

[beemerb]

Thank you gun nut.There are still a few people around that help rather get on their high chair.
Bob

[Justin]

beebmarb, I got a better idea; how bout you go look at the pertinent laws regarding shipping handguns. Last time I checked, the burden of proof lies with the person who posted the comment, not the person who asked the question. If you make a statement, be prepared to provide documentation or proof when asked instead of telling the person to go on a fool's errand.

[461]

In the process of educating myself I looked it up on the BATF website and found the following in the FAQ section.

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service? [Back]


A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.


(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier? [Back]


A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27


I found it to be pretty clear, hope it helps someone out.

[beemerb]

I thank the people who put the sites on so I can see the laws.I was wrong about my origanal statement and I have no problem with that that is why I asked for proof of the comment.Looks like i opened up a can of worms with out learning a thing till some GOOD people showed up to show me.
Again thanks
Bob

[scdavis0]

You are welcome,

Sean

[Thirties]

Beemerb, there are times when it is both easier and no more expensive to ship you gun via a local FFL holder to the buyer's out of state FFL holder.

Here is how it works out in my case:

I live a good hour's drive from the nearest UPS/FedEx, who both require over $40 to ship a handgun (their rules, not the government's).

My local FFL charges me $25 to "handle" the transaction, and only $10-$15 for postage USMail.

Add it up, and you can see how, in my case at least, using a local FFL is not a bad choice.

Also, if the item gets lost, it is no longer your gun (you signed it over to your local FFL. He is shipping it. Of course you should insure it and make sure your local FFL doesn't hose you in the event the insurance needs to be collected. But, presumeably, you already have a good relationship with your local FFL (one of my rules of life: deal with people you've developed a good working relationship with, when you can).

I hope this makes you feel a bit better...

[Ed Ely]

Guys, here is what I do when I buy or
sell to out of state on firearms.

I always have my FFL to ship to another
out of state FFL when I make a sale to
an out of state buyer. I have the buyer
have his/her FFL send my FFL a signed in
ink copy of their FFL. When my FFL receives
the out of state FFL, my FFL sends the firearm
to the buyer's FFL along with a letter asking
for payment from the buyer to his FFL and to forward
payment to my FFL. My FFL then writes me
a check for the transaction amount (the agreed
upon price for the sale of the firearm) when he
receives payment from the buyer's FFL.

Now, if I am buying a firearm out of state,
I ask the seller to forward to my FFL the
name, business address of his FFL and a
signed copy of his FFL's license along with payment.
When that info is received by my FFL, the firearm
is shipped to the buyer's FFL.

I have found this practice to be fool proof and I
have not got bit yet on a money scam.

Another thing, my FFL can and does ship via the
USPS, a lot cheaper than carrier services. If I have
to ship by carrier, there are two types of next day
delivery (most people do not know about this); 1).
Next day shipment can be next day and first thing in
the morning delivery- this costs a bunch; 2). Next day
shipment but it is delivered in the afternoon - this costs
less, a whole bunch less.

Long, but maybe it will save someone some $$$$$$
as that is what it boils down to anyway.

[Diesle]

The first answer is right on....

gunbroker.com
auctionarms.com


Diesle

[Real Bill]

I think you could have been less confrontational in your request to be shown where it says someone unlicensed can ship to a licensed person. It's no different here than in real life, you confront someone in what sounds like they don't know what they're talking about and you will get the type answer you got.

How about if you had said. "Hey Handy, I would really appreciate if you could point me to a reference that shows where an individual can ship directly to a FFL". "I really think I have read that what you're saying is legal was actually illegal".

I think Handy would have been more than happy to provide the reference to where you could read it. Lighten up just a little bit.