[Oleg Volk]

http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/arms/newyork0453.sized.jpg

Applies to some other locations in the US and abroad equally.

[Optical Serenity]

I don't know how many people will really understand it. I like it, and nice gun she's holding. Too confusing for the common sheeple?

[Hacker15E]

I think a lot of 'common people' who do associate handguns with violence would see that as progress. They don't see the liberty lost, unfortunately.

[cmb3366]

A lot of non-gunnies will see that and think it's a regular revolver, not a civil war cap and ball. As others said, to them it would be progress:barf:

[XavierBreath]

Make "firearm" singular.

The 2nd statement is kind of convoluted. Try:
"Today, it takes wealth and connections to buy even a Civil War antique."

I'm not certain I like the negative space on the left between the 2nd statement and "Progress".

I agree that "Progress" might not be the word you are looking for. Many would consider gun control to be progress.

For whatever reason, when I look at this photo I think Patrick Henry and "Give me liberty or give me death" even though the firearm in not of the correct era.

My 2 pesos.....

edited to add:
How about:
"150 years ago in New York City, this woman could protect her life. Today she needs special status to do the same. Progress?"

[taliv]

i don't see how this accomplishes anything. most of your posters bring up issues that the "other side" would be forced to agree are major problems with their policy.

for this poster, everyone on this thread is going to say "no, it's not progress, duh." and everyone on the other side is going to say "yes, it is progress, duh"

[Lupinus]

I like it.

But as others have said, to the sheeple it will be confusing.

[iamkris]

Isn't a related but more pointed statement that 75 years ago you could buy any gun you wanted and crime was low, toady you can't buy anything and crime rate is high?

[Oleg Volk]

I updated the captions with madmike's help.

[1911Tuner]

Maybe a flintlock pistol would make it more obvious. Most non-gun people won't recognize the '58 Remington...

[3rdpig]

I like it. If someone doesn't understand it it's either because they DON'T WANT to understand it or they skipped civics and history classes in high school. The first group is hopeless and the second can be educated, but first we need to make them ask "What does that mean?". At that point their mind is open and the truth can be inserted.

[XavierBreath]

The arrangement of the type/negative space works a lot better visually.

[beaucoup ammo]

Without making it too busy, yet giving the "sheepal" a relative "hook" to identify with..the woman could be on the upper floor of a Manhattan building with an open window behind her and the Twin Towers on fire in the distance.

IMO, it would add immediate relevance to a city (state) so touched by terror, yet so blinded by their inane laws.

As usual, Oleg..Bravo!

Take Care

[WvaBill]

I like it. If someone doesn't understand it it's either because they DON'T WANT to understand it or they skipped civics and history classes in high school. The first group is hopeless and the second can be educated, but first we need to make them ask "What does that mean?". At that point their mind is open and the truth can be inserted.


Problem is, they can skip civics and history, not care to ask "What does that mean?", and not even care about freedoms as long as their interests are met, but they are still the ones who select those responsible for legislation.

[f4t9r]

I like it and if I can get the message so can evryone else !!!! I have never been accused of being the sharpest knife in the drawer

[jobu07]

New York APPROVED! :D

Edit-I like the message Oleg's poster sends about oppressive gun laws in the Big Apple. Even though it's not 100% spot on with accuracy, I think the message it sends would be apparent to fence sitters in the political realm.

[Taurus 66]

I'm a New Yorker (Upstate) and have many firearms.

I don't live in the Big Apple, and maybe that's where Oleg is aiming this.

There are plenty of guns in NYC, some are illegally owned, some are "legal". The police commissioner has to approve.

Oleg - " ... New Yorkers without political connections can't buy even this antique."

Jim - " ... New Yorkers without political connections can't even buy this antique." - ?

[Standing Wolf]

Outstanding color, and it's always good to see old style figures.

[springmom]

http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/arms/newyork0453.sized.jpg

Applies to some other locations in the US and abroad equally.

This one's your best yet, Oleg!

Springmom

[mhdishere]

Oleg,
Actually I have a criticism. I grew up in NYC and started shooting while I lived there. I bought two cap-n-ball revolvers and a muzzle-loading rifle, totally legally, from a gun shop, without any license or filling out any forms. At the time NYC didn't require a license for any firearm that didn't fire fixed ammo, cap-n-ball, muzzleloaders, etc. I don't live there anymore, but I haven't heard that the rules have changed. Unless someone has an update, while the poster is excellent the content is incorrect. That's the kind of thing the anti's do intentionally.

Now if you replaced the cap-n-ball with a Colt SAA or something similar you'd be 100% accurate.

[PlayboyPenguin]

i don't see how this accomplishes anything. most of your posters bring up issues that the "other side" would be forced to agree are major problems with their policy.

for this poster, everyone on this thread is going to say "no, it's not progress, duh." and everyone on the other side is going to say "yes, it is progress, duh"

I kind of see this one as more of a motivational poster for pro-gun than an agument against anti-gun. Kind of like those "hang in there" cat posters. It reminds some middle ground people (like myself) one of the reasons why citizens should be allowed to own a weapon.:)

[birddog]

Another heavily-armed upstate New Yorker here. I agree with the above post. It would be better if you specified New York City. New York is 400 miles across, only a tiny portion of it is NYC.

"New Yorker" is a broad term and one to which the restrictions on the poster don't necessarily apply.

[Oleg Volk]

I meant New York City residents. I'll see about making this more exact.

[mhdishere]

Oleg,
Please see my post above, unless things have changed since I moved out a few years ago, NYC residents could buy cap-n-ball revolvers without a license.

[Oleg Volk]

I wonder if things have changed...

I asked http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=182622

I also looked on-line, seems that they are prohibitied, but I am not certain. Anyone with definitive info?

[Matthew Temkin]

I wonder if things have changed...

I asked http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=182622

I also looked on-line, seems that they are prohibitied, but I am not certain. Anyone with definitive info?
Anyone in NYC/NYS can own a cap and ball revolver.
While not sold in NYC they can be bought in many out of city gun stores with the same ease as buying a pack of smokes.
However...once they are loaded----or if the caps, powder and balls are in close proxmity--then they are considered firearms and must be on a pistol permit.
You many as well give up on convincing New Yorkers about our dumb gun laws.
I work part time at a local range and you would not believe what hoops must be jumped through just to handle a pistol here in Fun City.

[Limeyfellow]

Bloomberg isn't going to allow a law change to allow such a thing. He is more antigun than even Reagon was as governer in California.