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Gilbiy
February 12, 2006, 01:20 PM
looking for opinions on this rifle. A neighbor is sell one in 30-06 w/ factory scope for $300.

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Husker1911
February 12, 2006, 01:27 PM
The 710 is not worthy of the Remington name. I'll offend those who've been suckered into buying this clunker, but there is one thing it's good for. Run your fishing line through the trigger guard, and throw it and your baited hook into the water. When the fish picks up your bait, he won't feel the weight on it, as it slips through the trigger guard. You'll have a chance at catching the fish this way. For heaven's sake, don't actually shoot this rifle!

mathewsman99
February 12, 2006, 01:49 PM
i agree with that they are not worth it

dracphelan
February 12, 2006, 01:52 PM
This rifle has several things that disturb me:
1. There are pieces of plastic replacing metal parts in the action of the rifle. This may be safe, but it worries me.
2. If something happens to damage the barrel, you can not replace it.

For about $50 more, you can get a Savage rifle package from Wal-Mart. Or, for the same money, you can buy a Mossberg 100 ATR and equal quality scope rings and scope. The 710 may be an OK rifle, but you can get better for an equal amount of money.

brentwal
February 12, 2006, 01:52 PM
:eek: Run away!!!!!!!!:

Go find a good Savage/Stevens.;)

bogie
February 12, 2006, 02:16 PM
You can't change the barrel. The rifle was designed for Bubba Hunter, who fires one box of shells through it every coupla years.

If you can't get any other rifle, I suppose this would be better from nothing. But I'd suggest brown bagging your lunch to work for a few weeks, and saving the $$ for a better rifle.

Michael Courtney
February 12, 2006, 03:03 PM
I would not own nor recommend the Rem 710.

If you can find a used Rem 700 ADL, it is a much better rifle.

Failing a used Rem 700 ADL, there are the Savage and Mossberg options that have been mentioned. I would also mention that H&R makes nice, servicable, reliable, accurate, and much higher quality rifles in a break (single-shot) action for about $200.

In my opinion, the Rem 710 is the worst centerfire rifle in the market.

Michael Courtney

Ifishsum
February 13, 2006, 02:49 PM
I own one and it's not that bad, but $300 used is too much. I paid $299 new locally. About the only thing you can change on them is the scope.

I would not buy one again. I've since purchased 2 Savage rifles and they feel, look and shoot better than the 710 for about the same $.

Twycross
February 13, 2006, 03:36 PM
If you are just going to deer hunt a few times a year, or do a little odd target shooting, the 710 isn't bad. There are much better rifles in it's price range, but it's fine as long as you're not going to be doing any 'serious' shooting. And $300 used is too much. I picked mine up NIB for ~$340.

Chawbaccer
February 13, 2006, 06:56 PM
I agree that 300 is too much, especially since a dealer won't want to give a ten cent trade in allowance for it.

crazed_ss
February 14, 2006, 05:13 AM
You can't change the barrel. The rifle was designed for Bubba Hunter, who fires one box of shells through it every coupla years.

If you can't get any other rifle, I suppose this would be better from nothing. But I'd suggest brown bagging your lunch to work for a few weeks, and saving the $$ for a better rifle.

Uh oh.. a box of shells every couple of years? :uhoh:

I've put almost 3 boxes of Ammo through mine in a couple months. It hasnt blown up in my face yet. It's not the best rifle in the world, but it accurately and reliably puts holes in paper... cheap too.







Disclaimer: Your experience may vary

Nematocyst
February 14, 2006, 05:26 AM
I wonder if Remington execs are reading this thread?

If not, they should be.

By my count, this rifle, while not totally worthless, is not drawing what I'd call rave reviews.

At best, it gets, "Well, it wasn't worth the $300 I paid for it, but at least it hasn't blown up in my face!"

If I had a choice between Rem 710 & Rem 700 (which I do), I'd eat ramen for a month longer and drink cheap beer in order to save pennies for a 700.

YMMV.

Nem
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crazed_ss
February 14, 2006, 05:51 AM
Well Like I said.. it's does what it's designed to do. It's not as refined as other rifles. The action isnt too smooth. In hindsight, I guess there's better deals out there to be had.

I just wanted a rifle that was affordable and accurate for recreational shooting at the range. The 710 easy fullfills that requirement. I'd imagine if I took it hunting, it'd kill a deer just as effectively as a weapon costing 3 times as much.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootingtimes/Articles/DisplayArticles.asp?ID=781

http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootingtimes/Articles/Images/00000781/rm710trgt.jpg

Not bad IMO.

Nematocyst
February 14, 2006, 05:59 AM
Well Like I said.. it's does what it's designed to do. It's not as refined as other rifles. The action isnt too smooth. In hindsight, I guess there's better deals out there to be had.

I just wanted a rifle that was affordable and accurate for recreational shooting at the range. The 710 easy fullfills that requirement. I'd imagine if I took it hunting, it'd kill a deer just as effectively as a weapon costing 3 times as much.
Well said. I can't disagree.

My beef is not with those who buy it, shoot it, and make the best of it,
but with those who sell it even though for the price it could have been better.

If they (and their supervisors) would only smoke a few less cigars, drive a smaller car
& live in a less opulent house, the 710 would be an even better gun.

But wait, that's not prudent business rational.

Never mind.

The 710 will do what it was designed to do.

It will take deer and other game.

Of that I have no doubt.

Nem

BigRobT
February 14, 2006, 12:04 PM
I have a 710 and I agree, it is a piece of JUNK!! Mossberg has a new inexpensive bolt action rifle, the ATR-100. I looked at it and it is head & shoulders above the 710. Furthermore, it costs under $300, NIB!! It comes in assorted calibers, too.

Schleprok62
February 14, 2006, 12:35 PM
I looked at the 710, briefly, and was not overly impressed. Then I looked at the Stevens model 200. And for the monry, I would go the Stevens route, especially after talking to the folks at Savage/Stevens about it and finding out that it is the old Savage 110 action and is mechanically compatible with all said upgrades...

Verdict: Buy the Stevens, a box or two of shells, a basic 3-9x40 scope, go to the range, discover it's really quite accurate out of the box, disply :evil: :D :evil: because you only paid a little over $250 for it new, and sleep soundly at night knowing you got a great rifle for a little money... :cool:

my $0.02

RSABear
June 6, 2006, 09:33 AM
Just happened to search on Google and picked up on this forum.

I agree with most of the replies you got.

I have a Model 710 in .270 Win, which I purchased in 2003 when my finances did not allow for a Model 700. It is a working rifle and has stood the test of time and hammering of a couple of thousand rounds very well. I hunt from semi-desert grasslands to thick bush in mountainous areas. The game I pursue is up to Deer or Elk size for the bigger species. I reload 100gr, 110gr, 130gr and 150gr Hornady VMax/Interbond ™ rounds to chronograph 100ft/sec slower than that of PMC’s factory published ballistic data. I had my teething problems with the rifle – hopefully it is now a sorted out. On approximately the 50th shot the Bolt handle came off! It was repaired under warranty by the local Remington agent; however it came off again a few shots later. This time a good job solved the problem once and for all. One of the first changes I made to the standard package was to replace the Bushnell scope with a Tasco 3-9x40. I did not want to over capitalise on the scope and got 2 Tasco’s for the price of a Leupold (The one is a spare). I never obtained sniper accuracy from my reloads, but have recently shot a 3-shot less than half an inch grouping with the 130gr (I did not measure it – I still have the target to a scan). I can count on a consistent 1.5 inch 5 shot group at 107 yards – I will blame the shooter more than the rifle for larger groupings. The bolt action and plastic bushings sucks! However, when the round is chambered this does not play any role further and the shot goes off every time. Lastly I found a Remington trigger adjustment guide on another forum – I took a couple of weeks and some rounds to get the trigger pull more suitable. I have also found that Winchester brass works very well, I have had a number of other brands get stuck and then you have to bump them out with a cleaning rod.

Will I buy one again – only if I find myself in a worse financial position.

Kind Regards form South Africa
:cool:

Blacklabman
June 6, 2006, 09:52 AM
I am not a big rifle fan (you can tell by usernane). I looked at the 710 and came away shaking my head. The quality was less than impressive. Since I deer hunt to take up time before Waterfowl season, I did not want to pour a lot of money into a rifle.
I ended up buying a Savage 116FXP3 with Accu Trigger in 30-06. It is the synthetic stock, and stainless steel version. I have taken three deer with the rifle, and really like it. The total cost was right at $500 after tax.

dfaugh
June 6, 2006, 10:41 AM
Well.... they make good boat anchors.......

$300 is WAY too much, I think they sell/sold for less than that BRAND NEW...

For $300 you should be able to find a much better used rifle....Or save up another $150 and get a new Savage, which is a FAR better gun.

Ash
June 6, 2006, 01:12 PM
The 710 will shoot and is reasonably accurate. The problem is that it is not equal to but costs more than the Stevens 200 and Mossberg 100. Worse, it is the same price, within five cents or so, it is vastly inferior to the Savage 110 with Accutrigger. Repeat, for the SAME PRICE, you can get a Savage 110.

That is like saying you would rather get a Ford Escort, because it drives reasonably well, when a Dodge Stratus costs the same price. You can get that Ford, but why?

The 710 is a cynical attempt to capture the low-end market based solely on a name. With the 710, you get a REMINGTON, not a Mossberg or Savage. forget that the 710 is not the equal to the others, it's a REMINGTON and that is all you need to know. With a name like REMINGTON, it has to be good, right? It is a utilitarian gun, to be sure, but it still is not in the same league as the other rifles available, neither in construction, design, nor features.

The 710 is the poorest quality centerfire rifle Remington has ever introduced. The Mossberg 100ATR, at $100 less ($50 less if you buy the $40 scope and $10 rings on the 710), is a superior rifle. The Stevens, with that same $50 discount, is VASTLY superior (and fully compatible with most after market Savage parts). With two rifles that are better and $50 cheaper, what possible reason would there be to get the 710? While Big Green has a nice name, that's a bunch of cash to lay out for a name.

Ash

ojr
June 6, 2006, 01:36 PM
The Big Green has'nt got that good a name anymore,checked there new wood/blue CdL lately,lousy bluing and stock to action/barrel fit not worthy of Nirinco.Maybe it's because we are small over here but I tell you almost no-body buys remington anymore.

ArmedBear
June 6, 2006, 01:44 PM
I just combed through a lot of Remington's latest product line, and they've cleaned up their fit and finish.

One major transgression: they still sell the 710.

An aside: I saw a used sporterized SMLE 1/3 -- not bubba-ized; might have been a professional job back in the 1950s or something. It was in excellent condition, with iron sights. For the $150 they wanted for it, it would be a far better choice than a 710!

Bwana John
June 6, 2006, 08:59 PM
1.68", 5 shot @ 100 yard group from a STANDING position
Yea, right.:rolleyes:

_N4Z_
June 7, 2006, 08:01 AM
So then Remingtons 597 must be the little brother to the 710...

Sounds like pretty much the same plastic bag of poo in a bigger package. :barf:

Ash
June 7, 2006, 08:23 AM
You know, I saw a Mossberg 1500 for sale in Franklinton Louisiana in a cut-checkered walnut stock in 7mm Rem Mag, used but in excellent condition, for $300, with scope. That's the same rifle as a Weatherby Vanguard or Howa 1500 and is monumentally better than the 710.

My Revelation (Mossberg Model 810) in 30-06 cost me $200 and came in an impressed-checkered walnut stock and is VASTLY better than that 710 (IMO, it is better than the current crop of 700's, 70's, or 110's, but thats an opinion).

I picked up a nearly new condition Western Field (Mossberg 800) in 308 that cost me $280. It was a low-end rifle in the 1960's, and is better by leaps and bounds than the 710.

Ash

45Guy
June 8, 2006, 12:50 AM
I own a 710 that I picked up as my first deer rifle when I was 16, looking to get rid of it. For some reason in order to lock the bolt back in to battery after the shot I have to almost smack the bolt down. Scope comes loose after 3 shots. Not a great rifle, but oh well, it filled the void. Now to sell it and add on to the AR.:D

Nathanael_Greene
June 8, 2006, 09:26 AM
It's amazing how well-made some of those 60's-early 70's "department store" guns are. Walnut stocks, fine bluing, and the same actions as their name-brand cousins.

If you can find one that's had any kind of care, it'll probably be cheap and a rifle that'll last a lifetime.

I've never owned a Remington 710 and never will, but I don't think anyone will ever say that they plan on handing one down to their grandchildren.

Ash
June 8, 2006, 02:14 PM
Yeah, that's their lure. Amazing, isn't it, that a storebrand rifle, considered the blue-collar gun, would have a hinged floor-plate, deep bluing, iron sights (and mine have Williams flip-down rear sights that are fully adjustable for windage, from the factory that way!) walnut stock, sling swivels not just studs, and pistol grip caps. The only thing "cheap" about them was impressed checkering. Yet, check out a good Remington 1187 or 870 and guess what, impressed checkering!

The 710 rifle would not have survived in the 1960's. Nobody would have one. Yet, the Remington 700 ADL, or any rifle today with a blind magazine, would not have been considered either. Modern day matte black finishes wouldn't have been tollerated either. We have sunk so far in the art of the rifle.

My Revelation, which was marketed through Western Auto stores, is a finer rifle than your mid-level BDL at Walmart (with a fully adjustable trigger, four foreward locking lugs, damascend bolt etc). Now, in fairness, it isn't an ultra-accurate tack-driver, capable of 1.5 MOA if I do my best, but no 700 or 70 of the day is any better, as a rule.

Ash

cracked butt
June 8, 2006, 10:22 PM
I heard someone else say this a long time ago, but its stuck with me- "the 710 is the Bic lighter of rifles" The problem is that that analogy is false and would only be true if a Bic lighter cost $29 and a Zippo were priced at $30.

There are far better budget rifles out there and the Stevens model 200 would be at the top of my list.

It's amazing how well-made some of those 60's-early 70's "department store" guns are. Walnut stocks, fine bluing, and the same actions as their name-brand cousins.

So true, here is an example of the cheap Remington 700 ADL as it were made in the early 70s. Remington doesn't even make their top of the line 700s this nice anymore.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/brimic/Picture011.jpg

Quality will last a lifetime, cheap will always cost you more in the long run.

deus_sol_invictus
June 8, 2006, 10:31 PM
I saw one at a local Wally Whirled and was unimpressed. For the same $$ (about $325), they had several Winchester Model 70's to choose from, in addition to the Mossburg and a lovely 700 ADL with (shock!) factory iron sights.

Nathanael_Greene
June 9, 2006, 09:52 AM
Cracked--what a beautiful rifle! That stock is gorgeous.

I wonder if the guy who bought it originally thought he was "settling" for a cheaper model, or knew that he was getting a real bargain?

I've got an old (and I mean old) Marlin 336 that was made for Sears; the only negative to it is that some previous owner scratched ID numbers into the receiver. D'oh! A real shame, because the bluing is a lot better than on the new Marlins.

Some of the old Sears rifles had Belgian FN actions; I had a Monkey-Wards .30-06 that was made by Heym under license from Mauser. Rifles like that would be over a grand today; I picked mine up for $185. (I probably should've kept it, but I'm left-handed and just couldn't get used to working the action left-handed.)

Anyway, I'd look around for a well-preserved "Western Field" or "Ted Williams" or something like that before I'd buy a 710.

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