Congress Attempts to Kill the "Third-Party Threat"


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xd9fan
February 13, 2006, 02:23 AM
Congress Attempts to Kill the "Third-Party Threat"

Proposed Legislation Creates Treasury-Funded Campaigns for the Two Major Parties, Leaving Third Parties with No Means to Run

(Washington, D.C.) On February 1, congressional Democrats, led by Rep. Obey of Wisconsin, introduced a bill, H.R. 4694, that would end viable, third-party competition in races for the U.S. House of Representatives.

The bill, ironically named the "Let the People Decide Clean Campaign Act," would mandate public funds (taken from the U.S. Treasury) to candidates for the House of Representatives and forbid candidates from taking private funds such as contributions from individual donors.

The ambiguously-written bill provides funds for candidates of the "two major parties" but essentially scuttles any campaign efforts of third-party or independent candidates.

For third-party candidates to be eligible for the same funds that Republicans and Democrats would receive, they would have to obtain enough signatures to exceed 20% of votes cast in the last election within their district.

The catch under the proposed legislation is that third-party or independent candidates cannot pay petitioners to collect any signatures, making it impossible to fund their campaigns.

H.R. 4694 is yet another attempt by our politicians in office to shut down Libertarian Party candidates and other competitive third-party and independent campaigns.

"The Republican and Democratic parties exist to maintain power for their own benefit. The Libertarian Party exists to grasp power for the benefit of the nation," stated Shane Cory, chief of staff for the Libertarian Party. "American voters are waking up to this reality, and as they do, the two parties are trying everything within their power to shut us down."

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Solo
February 13, 2006, 02:33 AM
Great satire.



It is satire, right?



Please let it be satire....

beerslurpy
February 13, 2006, 02:40 AM
A link?

Erinyes
February 13, 2006, 02:42 AM
Great satire.



It is satire, right?



Please let it be satire....Infuriatingly, no. Look it up on the Library of Congress' web site...

beerslurpy
February 13, 2006, 03:05 AM
It was proposed by a democrat and it hasnt even gotten through committee yet. Find out what committee it gets put in and contact the Republican chairperson to kill it.

I am personally not too worried. So far this bill has gotten as far as Ron Paul's "repeal gun control" bills.

cosine
February 13, 2006, 09:00 AM
Amazing. Even if this doesn't go anywhere, it shows some people's true colors.

I keep hearing that there are no differences between Republicans and Democrats. If that's so, why do I keep hearing of Democrats that want to try to curtail civil liberties through legislation, or affect the government for their assurance of power and well-being through legislation? :confused: :uhoh:

Thain
February 13, 2006, 09:10 AM
Amazing. Even if this doesn't go anywhere, it shows some people's true colors.

I keep hearing that there are no differences between Republicans and Democrats. If that's so, why do I keep hearing of Democrats that want to try to curtail civil liberties through legislation, or affect the government for their assurance of power and well-being through legislation? :confused: :uhoh:

Have you read or read about the USAPATRIOT Act? Or any of the other crap that the GOP has shoved through Congress since Bush was elected?

Both parties suck, and their is no fundamental difference between them.

joab
February 13, 2006, 09:12 AM
When these alarmist articles are written we usually find that the author has over simplified the text of the bill to fit his or her slant and bias.

I'll withhold outrge until I see an actual link to the bill posted

geekWithA.45
February 13, 2006, 11:34 AM
Um...someone tell me again why tax are dollars spent on campaigns, and why private dollars spent on campaigns are registered?

Sindawe
February 13, 2006, 11:45 AM
HR 4694 IH

109th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 4694

To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to provide for expenditure limitations and public financing for House of Representatives general elections, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 1, 2006

Mr. OBEY (for himself, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Ms. DELAURO, Mr. FILNER, Mr. ISRAEL, Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. RYAN of Ohio, and Mr. WAXMAN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on House Administration, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means and Rules, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to provide for expenditure limitations and public financing for House of Representatives general elections, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; FINDING.

(a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as the `Let the People Decide Clean Campaign Act'.

(b) Finding- The Congress finds that the existing system of private political contributions has become a fundamental threat to the integrity of the national election process, has undermined public confidence in the legitimacy of that election process, and that the provisions contained in this Act are necessary to prevent the corruption of the public's faith in the Nation's system of governance.

TITLE I--EXPENDITURE LIMITATIONS AND PUBLIC FINANCING FOR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES GENERAL ELECTIONS

SEC. 101. EXPENDITURE LIMITATIONS AND PUBLIC FINANCING OF HOUSE GENERAL ELECTIONS.

(a) Expenditure Limitations and Public Financing- The Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431 et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following new title:

`TITLE V--EXPENDITURE LIMITATIONS AND PUBLIC FINANCING FOR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES GENERAL ELECTIONS

`SEC. 501. LIMITATION ON EXPENDITURES IN HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES GENERAL ELECTIONS.

`A candidate in a House of Representatives general election may not make expenditures other than as provided in this title.

`SEC. 502. SOURCES OF AMOUNTS FOR EXPENDITURES BY CANDIDATES IN HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES GENERAL ELECTIONS.

`The only sources of amounts for expenditures by candidates in House of Representatives general elections shall be--

`(1) the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund under section 506; and

`(2) additional amounts from State and national party committees under section 507.

`SEC. 503. DISTRICT LIMITATION ON EXPENDITURES BY MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES.

`(a) In General- Except as provided in sections 505 and 507, the maximum amounts of expenditures by major party candidates in House of Representatives general elections shall be based on the median household income of the districts involved, as provided for in subsections (b) and (c).

`(b) Maximum for Wealthiest District- In the congressional district with the highest median household income, maximum combined expenditures for all major party candidates with respect to a House of Representatives general election shall be a total of $1,500,000.

`(c) Maximum for Other Districts- In each congressional district, other than the district referred to in subsection (b), the maximum combined expenditures for all major party candidates with respect to a House of Representatives general election shall be an amount equal to--

`(1) the maximum amount referred to in subsection (b), less

`(2) the amount equal to--

`(A) 2/3 of the percentage difference between the median household income of the district involved and the median household income of the district referred to in subsection (b), times

`(B) the maximum amount referred to in subsection (b).

`(d) Allocation-

`(1) IN GENERAL- The maximum expenditure for a major party candidate in a congressional district shall bear the same ratio to the maximum amount under subsection (b) or (c), as applicable, as the total popular vote in the same precincts in which the general election will be held for candidates of the party in all House of Representatives general elections occurring during the period described in paragraph (3) bears to the total popular vote in such precincts for candidates of all major parties in all such elections, except that in determining the total popular vote in such precincts for candidates of any party in elections occurring during the period described in paragraph (3), votes cast in any House of Representatives general election for which there were fewer than 2 major party candidates shall not be taken into account.

`(2) EXCEPTION FOR DISTRICTS WITH NO CONTESTED ELECTIONS- If, during the period described in paragraph (3), no House of Representatives general election for which there were at least 2 major party candidates was held in any of the same precincts in which the general election will be held, the maximum expenditure for a major party candidate in the district shall bear the same ratio to the maximum amount under subsection (b) or (c), as applicable, as the total popular vote in all such precincts for candidates of the party in all elections for the office of Senator occurring during the period described in paragraph (3) bears to the total popular vote in all such precincts for candidates of all major parties in all such elections.

`(3) PERIOD DESCRIBED- With respect to a House of Representatives general election in a congressional district, the period described in this paragraph is the period beginning on the date of the second most recent House of Representatives general election held in the district and ending on the day before the date of the election.

`SEC. 504. DISTRICT LIMITATION ON EXPENDITURES BY THIRD PARTY AND INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES.

`(a) In General- Except as provided in sections 505 and 507, the maximum amounts of expenditures by third party and independent candidates in House of Representatives general elections shall be the amount allocated under subsection (b).

`(b) Allocation- The maximum expenditure for a third party or independent candidate in a congressional district shall be the greater of the following amounts:

`(1) The amount that bears the same ratio to the maximum amount under subsection (b) or (c) of section 503, as applicable, as the total popular vote in the district for candidates of the third party or for all independent candidates (as the case may be) in House of Representatives general elections bears to the total popular vote for all candidates in elections held during the period described in section 503(d)(3).

`(2) The amount that bears the same ratio to the maximum amount under subsection (b) or (c) of section 503, as applicable, as the total popular vote in the State involved for candidates of the third party or for all independent candidates (as the case may be) in elections for Federal office other than Presidential elections bears to the total popular vote for all candidates in elections held during the period described in section 503(d)(3).

`(3) The amount that bears the same ratio to the maximum amount under subsection (b) or (c) of section 503, as applicable, as the total popular vote in the State involved for candidates of the third party or for all independent candidates (as the case may be) in Presidential elections bears to the total popular vote for all candidates in Presidential elections held during the period described in section 503(d)(3).

`SEC. 505. PERMITTING ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES BY CERTAIN ELIGIBLE CANDIDATES.

`(a) Additional Expenditures-

`(1) IN GENERAL- The maximum amount calculated under section 503 or 504 for any eligible candidate described in paragraph (2) shall be increased in accordance with subsection (b).

`(2) ELIGIBLE CANDIDATE DESCRIBED-

`(A) IN GENERAL- In this section, an `eligible candidate' is a major party, third party, or independent candidate in a House of Representatives general election who presents to the Commission petitions containing the signatures of individuals eligible to vote in the election (as verified by the Commission), except that the highest funded candidate in the election may not be an eligible candidate for purposes of this section.

`(B) PROHIBITING USE OF PAID SIGNATURE COLLECTORS- The Commission may not verify a signature presented under this section if any person received a direct or indirect payment to collect the signature.

`(3) HIGHEST FUNDED CANDIDATE DESCRIBED- In this section, the `highest funded candidate' is, with respect to an election, the major party, third party, or independent candidate who is permitted to make the greatest maximum amount of expenditures under this title, as calculated under either section 503 or 504 (but excluding any increase in the amount under this section and any additional amount permitted under section 507).

`(b) Determination of Amount of Increase in Maximum Expenditure Amount-

`(1) DETERMINATION- The increase in the maximum amount for an eligible candidate in a House of Representatives general election provided under this section shall be determined as follows:

`(A) If the number of signatures presented by the candidate to the Commission under subsection (a)(2) is equal to or greater than 20 percent of the total number of votes cast in the most recent comparable election in the same precincts in which the House of Representatives general election is held (as verified by the Commission), the maximum amount for the candidate shall be increased by an amount equal to the difference between--

`(i) the maximum amount of expenditures which the highest funded candidate in the election is permitted to make under this title, as calculated under either section 503 or 504 (but excluding any additional amount permitted under section 507); and

`(ii) the maximum amount of expenditures which the candidate is permitted to make under this title, as calculated under either section 503 or 504 (but excluding any increase in the amount under this section and any additional amount permitted under section 507).

`(B) If, in the case of a third party or independent candidate, the number of signatures presented by the candidate to the Commission under subsection (a)(2) is equal to or greater than 10 percent of the total number of votes cast in the most recent comparable election in the same precincts in which the House of Representatives general election is held (as verified by the Commission) and less than 20 percent of such total number of votes, the maximum amount for the candidate shall be increased by an amount equal to the difference between--

`(i) 50 percent of the maximum amount of expenditures which the highest funded candidate in the election is permitted to make under this title, as calculated under either section 503 or 504 (but excluding any additional amount permitted under section 507); and

`(ii) the maximum amount of expenditures which the candidate is permitted to make under this title, as calculated under either section 503 or 504 (but excluding any increase in the amount under this section and any additional amount permitted under section 507).

`(C) If the number of signatures presented by the candidate to the Commission under subsection (a)(2) is less than 10 percent (or, in the case of a major party candidate, less than 20 percent) of the total number of votes cast in the most recent comparable election in the same precincts in which the House of Representatives general election is held (as verified by the Commission), there shall be no increase in the maximum amount provided under this section.

`(2) MOST RECENT COMPARABLE ELECTION DEFINED- In this subsection, the term `most recent comparable election' means, with respect to a House of Representatives general election--

`(A) in the case of a regularly scheduled election held in a year in which a Presidential election is held, the most recent regularly scheduled election held in a year in which a Presidential election was held;

`(B) in the case of a regularly scheduled election held in a year in which a Presidential election is not held, the most recent regularly scheduled election held in a year in which a Presidential election is not held; and

`(C) in the case of a special election, the most recent House of Representatives general election held in the same precincts in which the election is held which the Commission considers appropriate for purposes of this section.

Sindawe
February 13, 2006, 11:46 AM
`SEC. 506. GRASSROOTS GOOD CITIZENSHIP FUND.

`(a) Creation of Fund- There is established in the Treasury a trust fund to be known as the `Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund', consisting of such amounts as may be credited to such fund as provided in this section.

`(b) District Accounts- There shall be established within the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund an account for each congressional district. The accounts so established shall be administered by the Commission for the purpose of distributing amounts under this title.

`(c) Payments to Candidates- Subject to subsection (d), the Commission shall pay to each candidate from the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund the maximum amount calculated for such candidate under section 503 or 504 and any additional amount calculated for the candidate under section 505.

`(d) Insufficient Amounts- If, as determined by the Commission, there are insufficient amounts in the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund for payments under subsection (c), the Commission may reduce payments to candidates so that each candidate receives a pro rata portion of the amounts that are available.

`(e) Transfers to Fund- There are hereby credited to the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund amounts equivalent to the amounts designated under section 6097 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.

`(f) Expenditures- Amounts in the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund shall be available for the purpose of providing amounts for expenditure by candidates in House of Representatives general elections in accordance with this title.

`SEC. 507. ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS FROM STATE AND NATIONAL PARTY COMMITTEES.

`(a) Contributions- In addition to amounts made available under section 503 or 504 and the additional amounts made available under section 505, in the case of a candidate in a House of Representatives general election who is the candidate of a political party, the State and national committees of that political party may make contributions to the candidate totaling not more than 5 percent of the maximum expenditure applicable to the candidate (as calculated under section 503 or section 504 and including any additional amount provided under section 505).

`(b) Expenditures- A House of Representatives candidate who is the candidate of a political party may make expenditures of the amounts received under subsection (a).

`SEC. 508. PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

`(a) In General- Beginning on January 15, and continuing through April 15 of each year, the Commission shall carry out a program, utilizing broadcast announcements and other appropriate means, to inform the public of the existence and purpose of the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund and the role that individual citizens can play in the election process by voluntarily contributing to the fund. The announcements shall be broadcast during prime time viewing hours in 30-second advertising segments equivalent to 200 gross rating points per network per week. The Commission shall ensure that the maximum number of taxpayers shall be exposed to these announcements. Television networks, as defined by the Federal Communications Commission, shall provide the broadcast time under this section as part of their obligations in the public interest under the Communications Act of 1934. The Federal Election Commission shall encourage broadcast outlets other than the above mentioned television networks including radio to provide similar announcements.

`(b) Gross Rating Point- The term `gross rating point' is a measure of the total gross weight delivered. It is the sum of the ratings for individual programs. Since a household rating period is 1 percent of the coverage base, 200 gross rating points means 2 messages a week per average household.

`SEC. 509. AGGREGATION OF CANDIDATES AND AUTHORIZED COMMITTEES.

`For purposes of applying the restrictions and limitations of this title--

`(1) expenditures made by any authorized committee of a candidate shall be considered to be made by the candidate; and

`(2) contributions made to any authorized committee of a candidate shall be considered to be made to the candidate.

`SEC. 510. DEFINITIONS.

`As used in this title--

`(1) the term `House of Representatives candidate' means a candidate for the office of Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress;

`(2) the term `median household income' means, with respect to a congressional district, the median household income of that district, as determined by the Commission, using the most current data from the Bureau of the Census;

`(3) the term `major party' means, with respect to a House of Representatives general election--

`(A) a political party whose House of Representatives candidate in the preceding general election received, as the candidate of such party, 25 percent or more of the total number of popular votes received by all candidates for such office in the same precincts in which the general election will be held, or

`(B) a political party whose candidates in all elections for Federal office and all elections for the chief executive of the State involved occurring during the period described in section 503(d)(3) received 25 percent or more of the total number of popular votes received by all candidates in the same precincts in which the general election will be held in all such elections occurring during such period;

`(4) the term `third party' means, with respect to a House of Representatives general election, a political party which is not a major party;

`(5) the term `independent candidate' means, with respect to a House of Representatives general election, a House of Representatives candidate who is not the candidate of a major party or a third party, except that any such candidate who, in the preceding general election, received 25 percent or greater of the total number of popular votes received by all candidates for such office in the same precincts in which the general election will be held, shall be treated for purposes of this title as a major party candidate; and

`(6) the term `House of Representatives general election' means a general election for the office of Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress.'.

(b) Indexing of Amounts-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 315(c) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 441a(c)) is amended--

(A) in paragraph (1)(B)(i), by striking `or (h)' and inserting `or (h), or by title V,'; and

(B) in paragraph (1)(C), by striking `and (h)' and inserting `and (h), and under title V,'.

(2) BASE YEAR- Section 315(c)(2)(B) of such Act (2 U.S.C. 441a(c)(2)(B)) is amended--

(A) in clause (i), by striking `and' at the end;

(B) in clause (ii), by striking the period at the end and inserting `; and'; and

(C) by adding at the end the following new clause:

`(iii) for purposes of title V, calendar year 2005.'.

TITLE II--AMENDMENTS TO INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986

SEC. 201. DESIGNATION OF OVERPAYMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS FOR GRASSROOTS GOOD CITIZENSHIP FUND.

(a) In General- Subchapter A of chapter 61 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to returns and records) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`PART IX--DESIGNATION OF OVERPAYMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS FOR GRASSROOTS GOOD CITIZENSHIP FUND

`Sec. 6097. Designation of overpayments for Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund

`SEC. 6097. DESIGNATION OF OVERPAYMENTS FOR GRASSROOTS GOOD CITIZENSHIP FUND.

`(a) In General- With respect to each taxpayer's return for the taxable year of the tax imposed by chapter 1, such taxpayer may designate that--

`(1) an amount that is not less than $1 of any overpayment of tax for such taxable year, and

`(2) any contribution which the taxpayer includes with such return,

shall be paid over to the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund under section 506 of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971.

`(b) Manner and Time of Designation- A designation under subsection (a) may be made with respect to any taxable year only at the time of filing the return of tax imposed by chapter 1 for such taxable year. Such designation shall be made on the 1st page of the return.

`(c) Overpayments Treated as Refunded- For purposes of this title, any portion of an overpayment of tax designated under subsection (a) shall be treated as being refunded to the taxpayer as of the last date prescribed for filing the return of tax imposed by chapter 1 (determined without regard to extensions) or, if later, the date the return is filed.'.

(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of parts for such subchapter A is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new item:

`Part IX. designation of overpayments and contributions for certain purposes relating to House of Representatives elections'.

(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall apply to taxable years beginning after December 31, 2005.

SEC. 202. INCREASE IN CORPORATE INCOME TAX ON TAXABLE INCOME ABOVE $10,000,000.

(a) In General- Subparagraph (D) of section 11(b)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking `35 percent' and inserting `35.1 percent'.

(b) Effective Date- The amendment made by subsection (a) shall apply to taxable years beginning after the date of the enactment of this Act.

(c) Use of Amounts Received- Amounts received by reason of the amendment made by subsection (a) shall be paid over to the Grassroots Good Citizenship Fund under section 506 of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971.

TITLE III--INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES

SEC. 301. BAN ON INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES IN HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ELECTIONS.

Section 315 of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 441a) is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection;

`(k) No person may make any independent expenditure with respect to an election for the office of Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress.'.

SEC. 302. BAN USE OF NONFEDERAL FUNDS FOR CERTAIN DISBURSEMENTS.

Title III of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431 et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following new section:

`BAN ON USE OF NONFEDERAL FUNDS FOR CERTAIN DISBURSEMENTS

`SEC. 325.

`No person may make any disbursement in connection with a campaign for an election for the office of Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress, or any disbursement in connection with any public communication made for purposes of supporting, opposing, attacking, promoting, or mentioning a candidate in such an election, unless the funds used for the disbursement are subject to the limitations, prohibitions, and reporting requirements of this Act.'.

TITLE IV--PROVISIONS RELATING TO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PRIMARY ELECTIONS

SEC. 401. LIMITATION ON EXPENDITURES IN HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ELECTIONS OTHER THAN GENERAL ELECTIONS.

Section 315 of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 441a), as amended by section 301, is further amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(l)(1) The maximum expenditures for a candidate for the office of Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress in any election other than a general election may not exceed 1/3 of the maximum applicable to the candidate in a general election under title V.

`(2) For purposes of limitations under this Act, any expenditure by a candidate referred to in paragraph (1), including an expenditure for the preparation, production, or presentation of communications through electronic media or in written form, shall, regardless of when the expenditure is made, be attributed to the appropriate general election, unless such expenditure is made solely for an election other than a general election.'.

TITLE V--CONSIDERATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT

SEC. 501. EXPEDITED CONSIDERATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.

(a) In General- If any provision of this Act or any amendment made by this Act is found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, the provisions of section 2908 (other than subsection (a)) of the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 shall apply to the consideration of a joint resolution described in section 502 in the same manner as such provisions apply to a joint resolution described in section 2908(a) of such Act.

(b) Special Rules- For purposes of applying subsection (a) with respect to such provisions, the following rules shall apply:

(1) Any reference to the Committee on Armed Services of the House of Representatives shall be deemed a reference to the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and any reference to the Committee on Armed Services of the Senate shall be deemed a reference to the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate.

(2) Any reference to the date on which the President transmits a report shall be deemed a reference to the date on which the Supreme Court finds a provision of this Act or an amendment made by this Act unconstitutional.

SEC. 502. CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT DESCRIBED.

For purposes of section 501, a joint resolution described in this section is a joint resolution proposing the following text as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

`Article --

`SECTION 1. Congress may provide for reasonable restrictions on contributions, expenditures, and other disbursements in campaigns for election for Federal office as necessary to protect the integrity of the electoral process.

`SECTION 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. No legislation enacted to enforce this article shall apply with respect to any election held after the last day of the year of the fourth Presidential election held after the date of the enactment of the legislation, unless the period in which such legislation is in effect is extended by an Act of Congress which is signed into law by the President.'.

TITLE VI--GENERAL EFFECTIVE DATE; SUNSET

SEC. 601. GENERAL EFFECTIVE DATE; SUNSET.

This Act and the amendments made by this Act--

(1) except as otherwise specifically provided, shall take effect January 1, 2007; and

(2) shall remain in effect until December 31, 2020.

Sindawe
February 13, 2006, 11:50 AM
The above text of the bill was obtained by searching Thomas http://thomas.loc.gov/ Bill is titled: Let the People Decide Clean Campaign Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.4694.IH]

Article by the Greens is here: http://www.gp.org/press/pr_2006_02_09.shtml

Article by the Libertarians is here: http://www.lp.org/media/article_284.shtml

Anybody got any hot tar and feathers they can spare?:mad:

Joab: Thomas does not save searches, so I posted the entire text of the bill.

joab
February 13, 2006, 11:55 AM
I only did a quick read through

But what has caught my eye so far is that funds will be distributed according to the average income in the districts
If I'm correct, thats BS. Average income does not indicate political involvement
You could have a poorer community in a more well to do district that rallies behind a candidate to oust a representative that has sold them out.

What is the incentive to give contributions if you have little or no say in where your money goes. Might as well just donate to UNICEF

Merkin.Muffley
February 13, 2006, 03:26 PM
These people must have a good marketing team to dream up a name like `Let the People Decide Clean Campaign Act' for that one. It's almost as the name came up with for the "Patriot Act".

The Real Hawkeye
February 13, 2006, 06:55 PM
So, essentially, the two parties have come out in the open with their despotic and tyrannical intentions. Don't they realize that to the extent they use the law to make peaceful revolution impossible, they are making violent revolution a certainty?

k_dawg
February 13, 2006, 06:57 PM
IMHO: this is just an attempt by the more radical democrats to prevent the ability of the moderate democrats to split off. I.e. a power-grab by the Howard Deans to silence other members of his part.

Zedicus
February 13, 2006, 08:16 PM
So, essentially, the two parties have come out in the open with their despotic and tyrannical intentions. Don't they realize that to the extent they use the law to make peaceful revolution impossible, they are making violent revolution a certainty?
I am praying that they are not that stupid....:scrutiny:

But then again as einstien said......(See my Sig) :barf:

Standing Wolf
February 13, 2006, 08:31 PM
I'll still vote Libertarian.

gc70
February 13, 2006, 08:38 PM
I think this is the real heart of the bill:`BAN ON USE OF NONFEDERAL FUNDS FOR CERTAIN DISBURSEMENTS

`SEC. 325.

`No person may make any disbursement in connection with a campaign for an election for the office of Representative in, or Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress, or any disbursement in connection with any public communication made for purposes of supporting, opposing, attacking, promoting, or mentioning a candidate in such an election, unless the funds used for the disbursement are subject to the limitations, prohibitions, and reporting requirements of this Act.'.It doesn't make a lot of difference how much or little money the candidates get from the government, what really matters is that nobody else can spend any money to upset their well-orchestrated apple cart.

Otherguy Overby
February 13, 2006, 11:43 PM
Mr. OBEY (for himself, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Ms. DELAURO, Mr. FILNER, Mr. ISRAEL, Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. RYAN of Ohio, and Mr. WAXMAN)

Some of the "usual supects" I see. Too bad we can't round them up.

LAK
February 14, 2006, 04:58 AM
Amazing. Even if this doesn't go anywhere, it shows some people's true colors.
Yep. Along with a thousand other indicators.
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Merkin.Muffley
February 15, 2006, 04:47 PM
Maybe this is why...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/15/poll.politicalmood/index.html

Poll: Most think GOP, Democrats lack vision

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- By a large number, most Americans lack faith in the ability of Democrats or Republicans to solve the nation's problems, a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll released Wednesday indicates.

Sixty-eight percent of people surveyed February 9-12 said Democrats had no clear plan for the country, while 67 percent said Republicans lacked one.

Nevertheless, most of the respondents -- 52 percent -- said things are going very or fairly well in the country, a statistically similar response (49 percent) to the last time the question was asked in November.

The sampling error for questions asked of all 1,000 respondents was plus or minus 3 percentage points.

But many respondents said something made them upset about the direction the country was headed. Fifty-nine percent said they were angry about the way the country was moving along, while 32 percent answered they were generally content.

When asked if President Bush had done anything to make them mad, 61 percent of the people surveyed said yes.

The questions, asked of smaller samples, had a sampling error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

With midterm elections approaching in November, 50 percent of registered voters said they would vote for a Democratic candidate, while 43 percent said Republican and 8 percent said they were undecided or would vote for another party's candidate. The question had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

When asked which of six potential 2008 presidential candidates they would vote for, registered Democrats picked Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York (39 percent) ahead of Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts (15 percent), former Vice President Al Gore (13 percent) and former vice presidential candidate John Edwards (12 percent).

Among Republican registered voters, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Sen. John McCain of Arizona -- 33 percent and 28 percent, respectively -- were the clear favorites. Sen. George Allen of Virginia trailed behind with 7 percent, followed by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee with 6 percent.

That question had a sampling error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Fifty-eight percent of the respondents would like to see more spending on domestic issues such as health care and education and less focus on cutting the deficit. The question on spending had a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Alex45ACP
February 15, 2006, 06:12 PM
I'll still vote Libertarian.

+1

GoRon
February 15, 2006, 06:31 PM
Congress Attempts to Kill the "Third-Party Threat"

Why would they attempt to kill third parties when they are doing such a good job of being ineffectual and invisible?

Talk about kicking someone when they are down.:evil:

This would backfire and put third parties in the spotlight.

hillbilly
February 15, 2006, 06:34 PM
Oh yeah?????

Well, uh, um....

BADNARIK!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

hillbilly

LAR-15
February 15, 2006, 07:35 PM
Funny that this bill has only Democrat sponsors and no Republican sponsors

LAR-15
February 15, 2006, 07:37 PM
Yep. Not a Republican sponsor in the bunch:

COSPONSORS(7), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. [CT-3] - 2/1/2006 Rep Filner, Bob [CA-51] - 2/1/2006
Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] - 2/1/2006 Rep Israel, Steve [NY-2] - 2/1/2006
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 2/1/2006 Rep Ryan, Tim [OH-17] - 2/1/2006
Rep Waxman, Henry A. [CA-30] - 2/1/2006



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LAK
February 16, 2006, 03:13 AM
Maybe this is why...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/15/poll.politicalmood/index.html

Poll: Most think GOP, Democrats lack vision

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- By a large number, most Americans lack faith in the ability of Democrats or Republicans to solve the nation's problems, a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll released Wednesday indicates.
And of course the polling question or questions would have been engineered to restrict answers - and true opinions - to fall within certain parameters.

A more accurate assessment IMO is that most or many people are already aware that it is the democratic republican party that is the problem.
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c_yeager
February 16, 2006, 03:36 AM
As the two parties strive to eliminate political opposition the lines between them grow murkier. I remember that episode of the Simpsons the people had the option of choosing between Alien Overlord #1 or the genetically identical Alien Overlord #2.

stevelyn
February 16, 2006, 10:33 AM
I'll still vote Libertarian.

Yup.

Is is anyone still naive enough to think there is any difference in the two-peas-in-a-pod party?:rolleyes:

longeyes
February 16, 2006, 11:00 AM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- By a large number, most Americans lack faith in the ability of Democrats or Republicans to solve the nation's problems, a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll released Wednesday indicates.

Sixty-eight percent of people surveyed February 9-12 said Democrats had no clear plan for the country, while 67 percent said Republicans lacked one.

It's the ones who DO have "a clear plan" who worry me most. Of course the "clear plan" is a stealth plan which the Great Unwashed are not to be privy to.

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