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TaurusPT945
February 13, 2006, 12:57 PM
This is the first time that I can carry my gun outside residence (my username tells you the only gun I own).

How do you carry your gun? Cocked and locked or just loaded?

And if you're going to a bank, are you going to entrust your gun to the bank security?

Glockman17366
February 13, 2006, 01:34 PM
As far as where you can carry...that depends on your local laws. I see you're from the Far East...the east coast of the USA? Asia?

In Pennsylvania, one can carry most places unless clearly marked weapons prohibited.

As far as how I carry, it depends on which gun:
Taurus M85 Ultralight is pocket carry (with a holster)
Glock 19 is in a belt slide OWB holster
Kahr MK9 is in an IWB just above my left rear pocket.

I like carrying the Glock best, but I carry the Taurus most frequently due to it's light weight. When I'm carrying the semi-auto's, there's one in the chamber.

obiwan1
February 13, 2006, 01:57 PM
I agree that it depends on state law. Know the prohibited areas. Abide by the law. In Florida the "no guns" signs have no basis in law. They can ask you to leave and have you arrested for trespassing if you don't. Other states have their own laws.

If I remember correctly, the 945 gives you the option of conventional DA with hammer down or "condition 1". Do whatever YOU feel comfortable with (as long as the gun is loaded and with one in the chamber).

Remember: Concealed means CONCEALED! NO ONE KNOWS! That eliminates most problems. By the way, I don't suggest giving your weapon to anyone except LEOs. Some places have gun lockers, but those are places that cops go alot (jails, courthouses, prison wing of hospitals, etc).

Welcome to the group. Hopefully you'll never NEED your CCW. :D

Standing Wolf
February 13, 2006, 09:56 PM
And if you're going to a bank, are you going to entrust your gun to the bank security?

My money, maybe; my gun, no way.

Zen21Tao
February 14, 2006, 02:20 AM
The three guns I tend to carry concealed are my Sig P239, my AMT backup .45, and my Glock 29 10mm. My AMT is DA only carried in a pocket holster, My Glock is Glocks SAS (safe action system) carried IWB, and my Sig is SA/DA but doesn't have a safety to carry cocked and locked so I carry it with hammer dropped also in an IWB holster. All have a round in the pipe ready to rock.

As for giving your gun to the guard at the bank, might as well just keep it in your car. It's not going to do you any good in the bank guards hand. Like others have suggested check your CCW laws. Here in Florida it is perfectly legal to carry in Banks.

Croyance
February 14, 2006, 03:01 AM
Cocked and locked if the design allows.
Trying to explain to security that you are trying to hand the gun to them and not rob the place would be amusing - for somebody else.
If the law says you cannot carry inside, I would recommend that you find another secure place to put it.

Srigs
February 14, 2006, 04:18 AM
I always carry one in the pipe and only carry DAO guns myself! No safeties to worry about just pull, point and shoot.

Have at lease 2 to 3 ways to carry each gun and get started on your holster box to store all your extras!

Examples:
Large gun primary is OWB or IWB
Secondary is Pocket or IWB or OWB
Bug is Pocket or IWB

Yes, sometimes I carry all three makes for good weight balance! :evil:

TaurusPT945
February 14, 2006, 09:41 AM
Don't you think that one gun is enough to carry? By carrying more than one firearm, there must have been too much threat in your life. I doubt if you'll be able to use all the guns in situations where you needed it most.

1911 guy
February 14, 2006, 11:09 AM
O.K., I'll tell you. I carry a 1911 in condition one. Thats loaded, hammer cocked, thumb safety engaged. One by one, blissninny relatives get shocked when they find out I carry a gun. Mom can't keep quiet. And condition one carry freaks out the Glock-o-philes at the range. Something about an external hammer gives them the willies.

porterdog
February 14, 2006, 12:22 PM
Don't you think that one gun is enough to carry? By carrying more than one firearm, there must have been too much threat in your life. I doubt if you'll be able to use all the guns in situations where you needed it most.

People who carry more than one gun typically are planning *exactly* for when they need it most. What if your first gun fails, or gets jammed? It's not about two handed action; rather about being prepared.

Me, I spent money on a very reliable weapon, and only carry one. If people want to carry two, that's fine.

rero360
February 14, 2006, 12:30 PM
O.K., I'll tell you. I carry a 1911 in condition one. Thats loaded, hammer cocked, thumb safety engaged. One by one, blissninny relatives get shocked when they find out I carry a gun. Mom can't keep quiet. And condition one carry freaks out the Glock-o-philes at the range. Something about an external hammer gives them the willies.


I hear you on that one, my friend was rather shocked at me when I pulled my 1911 out for him to shoot and it was in condition 1, he has been shooting for longer than I've been alive but he is used to his glock. if only I had more ammo with me, he might have converted :neener:

depicts
February 14, 2006, 03:57 PM
Carry it into the bank. Try to learn to act like you don't even have it don't be nervous. Most people aren't aware who is and isn't carrying. I carry everywhere except federal buildings (Post Office, courts and local courts and schools and anywhere it is illegal, but if it's not....I carry)

Ala Dan
February 14, 2006, 04:45 PM
When carrying a 1911, condition #1 cocked and locked~!:D
It's there any other way?:uhoh: ;)

usp9
February 14, 2006, 05:39 PM
Seecamp carried the only way a Seecamp can be carried, loaded and ready to shoot. There is no safety.

Beretta is carried de-cocked, safety off.

USPc carried de-cocked, safety off.

In my state, banks are one of the few places I can't carry, so I leave it in the car.

RFM
February 16, 2006, 10:38 PM
Loaded with safety on.

thorazine
February 17, 2006, 12:59 AM
And if you're going to a bank, are you going to entrust your gun to the bank security?

Unless required by law (state you reside in) why would you give up your gun?

I can really see that going off well...

"Here mister security guard, here is my gun."

I would just stand there and stare -- speachless.


If I was prohibbited to carry in to a bank in the state of florida I would with regret have to leave it in my car.

Steve C
February 17, 2006, 12:21 PM
How do you carry your gun? Cocked and locked or just loaded?

Since your pistol is a double action semi auto the most reasonable method of carry is round chambered, hammer down, safety off. With this type firearm it is most readily deployed yet still safe when carried in this manner. Cocked and locked is necessary only if using a single action semi auto. Having to drop the safety is just one more thing that can go wrong if you need your pistol in a defensive situation.

And if you're going to a bank, are you going to entrust your gun to the bank security?
Banks in my area don’t have any signs and there are no laws that prohibit firearms in a bank. Banks are visited by armed security persons and business men who are armed because of the amounts of cash they carry to either deposit or to withdraw for their daily use. If you are carrying concealed they should never see the gun, if carrying exposed then they shouldn’t worry either. The bad guys draw their guns and say things like “hands up” and “give me the money”. One should avoid such phrases when in a bank whether you are armed or not.:)

gt3944
February 17, 2006, 01:12 PM
Carry it into the bank. Try to learn to act like you don't even have it don't be nervous. Most people aren't aware who is and isn't carrying. I carry everywhere except federal buildings (Post Office, courts and local courts and schools and anywhere it is illegal, but if it's not....I carry)

I think that this is one of the best piece of advice anybody can give..If your so nervous about carrying concealed, then you shouldn't be carrying period..

Chipperman
February 17, 2006, 01:41 PM
"Seecamp carried the only way a Seecamp can be carried, loaded and ready to shoot. There is no safety."

Unless you have the CA editiion (which is MA approved), which has a safety at the base of the trigger. :uhoh:

I "lost" mine, so now it functions that way it is supposed to.

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I usually carry a P7M13, a squeeze-cocker, so no other type of safety required.

AirForceShooter
February 17, 2006, 04:58 PM
I had a PT 945 as my carry gun for 2 years.
Now don't cringe:
the 945 is a DA/SA .45
I carried it with a round chambered and the hammer down and safety OFF.
I don't go jumping over fences or in and out of cars. It's not jumping out of it's holster.
I got rid of it because I couldn't shoot it. It never failed or jammed. It just didn't fit my hand.
I'm back to a 1911 and I carry that at condition 0

AFS

GruntII
February 19, 2006, 07:24 AM
Don't you think that one gun is enough to carry? By carrying more than one firearm, there must have been too much threat in your life. I doubt if you'll be able to use all the guns in situations where you needed it most.

I 'm not the original poster of this multi gun post but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night:what: . Multiple guns are safety equipment and if state law allows should be carried. the quickest reload is to pull another gun. AThe quickest malfunction fix is another gun. Criminals run in packs and you cannot count on ending the fight in the national average or 3.2 rounds or whatever the current figure is. Remember you carry your gun to protect your life and the lives of your loved ones.A gun is insurance and you can never have two much.
I made my decision due to my early exposure to coppers and citizens who led rough lives in the 50's,60's and 70's. They were all gunfight winners,gunffighters if you will, and not just survivors. There is a difference. A Gunfight winner , trains, stays alert , and has a plan when trouble starts. He survives by design and not accident. A gunfight survivor has a gun and may practice.When the defication hits the osicillating paddles they live thru the even more by devine providence than anything else, many times thye have never even considered they might actually have to shoot someone,much less Kill Them. Mind you Devine Providence is a good thing to have but we are also expected to be able to protect ourselves.

So endth the lesson.

bigmike45
February 19, 2006, 12:01 PM
Grunt,

I agree with your interpretation fully. I have 4 LEO's in my family and having heard their stories of themselves and the average Joe, I chose to get my CHL here in Texas. All of them but one was congratulatory. My Uncle, that was not congratulatory, felt that anyone not having formal training in gun handling was neglegent when carrying. I believe his exact words were " Neglegent to themselves and to the general public"!!!! I then informed him that I HAD formal gun handling training while in the NAVY as a Shore Patrol Officer and PPC. I then asked him, in a respectfull manner, when the last time was that he had actually shot his firearm, how many rounds he fired and was paper the only thing he shot at?? Of course he proudly announced that he qualified with his sidearm annually and shot over 50 rounds during that qualification.
I, again respectfully, stated that I shoot that many during my monthly trip to the range and compete in many competitons that require precise gun handling to even be able to be in the top 10.
He said "Well you are the exception then". I shook his hand and thanked him for not chastizing my RKBA. I also said I understand his opinion but felt is was not based on facts.:banghead: