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Wildalaska
April 13, 2003, 07:55 PM
Now mind you I hate Alaska gun shows (same stuff, different table) bu this one for some reason was different..

Ended up with tons of junk that I am selling...and......

A SWEDE!!!! A swedish m38 Mauser cavalry carbine. Its an 1943 Husky, Samco import, excellent condition! Bluing is about 95%! The stock has got a wied disk (instead of the "clock" its got the letters Gbk and the number 3300) and the stell buttplate has different numbers....

Bore is superb,....

And it only cost $200!!!!

Anybody know anyhting about this stock disk?

Had more fun buying this one that playing with the suppressed Walther P22s and the Brens..

Im getting old...


WildbiggrinAlaska

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cratz2
April 13, 2003, 08:29 PM
Swede!! Swede!!! Swede!!!

Sweet!! Sweet!! Sweet!! :p

JohnKSa
April 13, 2003, 11:04 PM
There were only two disk styles. The older style was used on the Model 1894 carbines and more rarely on the early Model 1896 rifles.

Sounds like maybe someone swapped stocks???

The older style disks were also usually held on with two fasteners instead of the single center screw for the newer "clock" style barrel condition disks.

The codes on the older disks should indicate the branch of service, unit # and rack # of the rifle so it could be returned to the proper unit if lost in combat.

But, the 'Gbk' is puzzling, that isn't a valid code as far as I can determine.

Have you removed the disk and looked at the other side?

I don't understand what you mean about numbers on the buttplate...

Crimper-D
April 13, 2003, 11:07 PM
I just came across a 1942 Swede Husky Cavelry Model in my local gunshop with an asking price of $400. It had a threaded muzzel and was about 90% overall. Don't know specifically about the stock disk you describe, but if you set your browser to "The House of Karlina" there is a section dealing with various stock disks on all of the Swede Mausers.
Nice find!:D
Got 3 Swedes, a 94 and 2 96's no m38's - yet.;)

Wildalaska
April 13, 2003, 11:31 PM
Hey John and Crimper.

I went to that web site House of Karlina, apparently the disc is for an artillery unit.

I think the stock is correct style for the rifle, but the numbers definately dont match so the question is whether it was switched there or here....

SAMCO doesnt have any more!:D

Wild:D :D Alaska

BusMaster007
April 13, 2003, 11:42 PM
:cool:

#'s matching 1901 M96 & 1945 AG42B for me.
I feel your 'pain' ! ;)

Nice find. Swedes are good, JA?

cracked butt
April 14, 2003, 01:14 AM
Take the barreled action out of the stock, the barrel channel and I'm pretty sure the handguard should have a serial number on them.

Its kind of odd that the buttplate doesn't match unless the stock was replaced, the usual numbers that don't match are the cleaning rod and the rear sight.

I bought an all matching 96 once and was all excited because this was the first one where all the numbers matched(except the cleaning rod of course) and took it home and put it on the rack next to my other 96's. Something didn't look right and it took me about a minute to figure out what was wrong. I took the buttplate off and found that the stock had been shortened by 1/2", though very expertly done because I couldn't tell by looking at the rifle with the buttplate on. There was no stock disc either, but a brass medallian engraved with a swedish name and city tacked over the disc hole. I'm guessing this was someone's target or hunting rifle at one time, ,probably someone short in stature. This rifle is the most accurate rifle I own.

Wildalaska
April 14, 2003, 01:31 AM
I pulled off the stock, it definately is different numbers than the rifle, but it sure as heck has been on there a long time, I wonder what sort of rebuilding they did over there...

Dannyboy
April 14, 2003, 12:29 PM
Swede!! Swede!!! Swede!!!
I thought you were gonna post something about one of my all time favorite flicks, Heartbreak Ridge.

Have you had an opportunity to shoot it yet?

JohnKSa
April 14, 2003, 10:31 PM
There wasn't any significant change in the basic stock between 1896 and 1938. Then, the only difference was the shorter barrel of the 1938 models.

Converting the stock from an 1896 to a 1938 was probably very common, as a lot of the original "1938 models" were just converted 1896 models.

The Swedes (armories) were meticulous about maintaining their rifles. I've seen some with stock disks indicating that the barrel should be discarded which still had bores that looked pristine to the naked eye (and shot great too). Anyway, it's not too surprising to find "mismatched" rifles since they were being worked on even when most country's armories would have said they were perfect and left them alone.

I currently own a 96 and a 38. Both will shoot submoa with the Swedish military ball.

Wildalaska
April 15, 2003, 01:13 AM
Have you had an opportunity to shoot it yet?

Not yet, and if my shooting habits remain the same, I wont pop it off for weeks:fire:

Converting the stock from an 1896 to a 1938 was probably very common, as a lot of the original "1938 models" were just converted 1896 models.

What about the clearance for the bent bolt?

WildtheyhavenicelookingirlstooinSwedenAlaska

Cosmoline
April 15, 2003, 01:42 AM
The one gun show I decide to skip turns out to be the first good one in ages

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
April 15, 2003, 04:27 AM
Glad you got one. I'll save you the heartbreak of learning I found a mint disassembled 1916 Gustavstad m94 in a foot locker full of old shoes, though <G>

old links I've had for years posted here regarding Swedes. it's 0322 and I don't feel like verifying the server, but here's the content.

Regards,
Rabbit.

JohnKSa
April 15, 2003, 10:37 PM
What about the clearance for the bent bolt?
Well, on a typical 96/38 they left the bolthandle straight.

I guess when they put an old stock on one of the true 38s, they would have to cut a channel for the bent bolt.

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