I have my AR. Now what do I do with it.


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Kodiaz
February 14, 2006, 07:50 PM
Asides from shoot it of course. I got a M4A3 Bushmaster. I want to get a verical fore grip and a front night sight to start can someone point me in the right direction. Asides from AR15.com. I just got the rifle and I got a good deal on ammo so I have 1000 rnds here and another thousand on the way so money is a little tight for major improvements/modifications.

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GoRon
February 14, 2006, 08:12 PM
You need an EOTech.

Then you won't have to buy a front nightsite.:D

Do you have a front rail? Did it come with a carry handle?

I have seen those rails that bolt onto the stock handgaurds but don't know if they can handle a front grip or not.

Kodiaz
February 14, 2006, 08:17 PM
I'll eventually get a complicated piece of technology. But for right now I want a night site. I have the detachable handle. I can't wait to go to the range.

Beren
February 14, 2006, 08:23 PM
Right thing:

Don't buy anything more. Take a few reputable training classes meant for beginners.

Wrong thing:

Buy an Eotech and lots of other gizmos. Like I did. IT IS A SICKNESS and once you start you won't stop! Which means you'll never get around to taking the classes!

Take the classes first.

KriegHund
February 14, 2006, 08:23 PM
Asides from shoot it of course.

Now why would you want to shoot a perfectly good gun?
He he, just kidding.

www.cheaperthandirt.com has lots of AR accessories.

NMshooter
February 14, 2006, 08:26 PM
Put a few thousand rounds through it first.

Then you might have a better idea of what you might find useful.

Classes can also help you get an idea of what you might want, but shoot at least a thousand rounds through the rifle first. That will ensure reliable function and help you get used to operating the AR-15.

Have fun!:D

GoRon
February 14, 2006, 08:34 PM
Buy an Eotech and lots of other gizmos. Like I did. IT IS A SICKNESS and once you start you won't stop! Which means you'll never get around to taking the classes!
Take the classes first.

Great advice!

I sprung for the optic right away. Actually as the summer wore on I found myself using the irons more and more. Punchin the center out with irons is more rewarding than with the optic.

I was thinking plinking and home defense when I bought mine last summer. Now that I have it and have got to shoot it alot I am going to take some classes. I didn't realize how addictive the AR platform was going to be!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/45Ron/DCP_06991.jpg

Kodiaz
February 14, 2006, 08:38 PM
I found an IPSC club not far from here. Unfortunately I'm on call this week(A/C man not a doctor). So my only practice this week will be if I can find some frangible ammo at the indoor pistol range near my house. Clearview investments is selling Wolf .223 for 110 a 1000 plus shipping for me in Fl it works out to 125 for a thousand rounds. I should have 2000 rounds by this Thurs. if not Wed.
I'm set on ammo for a little while once I'm not on call. Man I can't wait I haven't shot a rifle since I left/escaped the Socialist Republik of New Jersey. I love being free.

Kodiaz
February 14, 2006, 08:39 PM
How rude of me not to post a pic. Lord where are my manners


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=35495&d=1139883835
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Could someone tell me how to get the picture in here
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I bought 2 extra mags the day I paid for the gun so I could bring something home(stupid waiting period).
I'll probably get a bunch more when I get paid. I'll be working this weekend so I won'y be going out much. I'm looking at a Spectre sling. But I saw what that guy on AR15 made on his own and I might try that first.

bad LT
February 14, 2006, 08:45 PM
Do you have enough GI magazines? If not, go get some more before spending $ on less important accesories.

How about a sling? A very, very simple but important accesory.

That, and a bayonet :evil:

agtman
February 14, 2006, 08:46 PM
"I have my AR. Now what do I do with it?"

Unless you intend to use it exclusively for targets or range plinking, your additional dollars are best spent on getting good basic training: learn how to zero it, shoot it (from unsupported field positions and in CQB-type drills, not off the bench), move and fight with it.

Once you've mastered your iron sights, adding a basic optic is fine (e.g., an Aimpoint, EOTech or ACOG). Integrate the optic into your training.

Later on, after progressively more advanced training, you can always spend any extra cash on the tacticool goodies. ;)

Look around your state or regional area for a basic tactical rifle or carbine course (most run 2 or 3 days). Instructors for these courses typically design their programs and training drills for the AR-pattern weapon.

The link below takes you to my review of TDI's Tactical Rifle I course, which is in Ohio. It'll give you some idea of what to expect from a similar multi-day tac rifle/carbine course near you. (Pictures follow the review).

http://bren-ten.com/agtman/id8.html

Day 1 at TDI: Precision Shooting and Field Positions.
http://nordicg3k.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/agtman_school-04.jpg

:cool:

GoRon
February 14, 2006, 08:58 PM
Kodiaz new rifle


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=35537&stc=1&d=1139965331

Kodiaz
February 14, 2006, 09:00 PM
Darn out of focus.

grimjaw
February 14, 2006, 09:20 PM
Cleaning it religiously seems to be a popular option. :neener:

jmm

Kodiaz
February 14, 2006, 09:34 PM
All of my firearms are cleaned religiously. They are spotless when they leave the range. My cleaning kit stays in the car.

.40-.45
February 14, 2006, 11:08 PM
shoot it as much as possible until you have the irons down then start to think about upgrades


my .02

modifiedbrowning
February 14, 2006, 11:11 PM
I'm with .40-.45. Use the irons to become familiar with your AR, then start customizing.

f4t9r
February 14, 2006, 11:41 PM
Congrats on the AR , enjoy

Bartholomew Roberts
February 15, 2006, 12:22 AM
I definitely recommend a formal training course as your first purchase.

On the options you are considering, have you considered how you are going to mount the vertical grip? There are different grips and some work better than others, likewise with the mounting systems.

As for the night sights, may I suggest a flashlight instead? It will not only let you use your irons in the dark since the irons are backlit quite nicely by the light on the target, it will also let you see what you are shooting. You can also add a light for $41 (Surefire G2 and SOTech light buckle).

ReadyontheRight
February 15, 2006, 12:25 AM
Shoot with the irons and go out and shoot some Highpower matches. Nothing will improve your marksmanship like a little competition (hint: in a match, we're all really only competing with yourself -- unless you're REAL good -- so relax, have fun and get to know the best da** people in the world - competitive shooters.)

Kodiaz
February 15, 2006, 12:54 AM
Oh I want to go to the IPSC to do some shooting but also to watch and learn. I want to get a night sight up fron so I can see my front iron sight easily. And it'll run me around 60$ to get one and have the gunsmith put it on. I don't plan on shooting in low light anytime soon the illuminated dot on the night sight will let me find the sight a lot faster. I'd go so far to say shooter's as a group are some of the most decent people I've ever met.

Bartholomew Roberts
February 15, 2006, 10:02 AM
I want to get a night sight up fron so I can see my front iron sight easily. And it'll run me around 60$ to get one and have the gunsmith put it on. I don't plan on shooting in low light anytime soon the illuminated dot on the night sight will let me find the sight a lot faster. I'd go so far to say shooter's as a group are some of the most decent people I've ever met.

In that case, don't bother with a night sight. Use one of the fiber-optic tube sights that gather available light and make the spot literally glow. Also you shouldn't need a gunsmith to switch the front sight on an AR15. All you need is an A2 sight tool (or really you can do it with just the tip of a .223 round but it may take a bit longer). Unscrew the existing front sight post and then replace it with the new one.

mustanger98
February 15, 2006, 11:51 PM
You got an AR-15??? Great... now you have something to trade for an M-14 or a couple of Garands, one of which could be rebarreled to 7.62mm.:D

Kodiaz
February 16, 2006, 09:37 PM
M-14 I don't need ammo that heavy. Besides I would hate to take an antique off the market when I'm sure some Old timer would appreciate it more than me. And if you're talking about rechambering to 7.62x39 well I want ammo that is "easily" available.

mustanger98
February 16, 2006, 10:18 PM
7.62x39 in a M1??? The mere mention is pure heresy.

MechAg94
February 17, 2006, 01:23 AM
http://www.eaglefirearms.net/ar15_magazines.htm
I have several of the teflon coated D&H Industries mags from Eagle. They are cheap and have worked well for me.

http://www.dsgarms.com/
DSGArms.com is selling 30 round mags for $10 right now. I bought some over the weekend. I got them Wednesday. Good service. I haven't shot them, but they were recommended.


As far as shooting, I would recommend getting lots of practice with the iron sights before adding optics. Personally, I don't understand why people want to put a vertical foregrip on a rifle, but each to his own. I would suggest getting the above mentioned practice with the stock rifle first so you can compare the two configurations.

Kodiaz
February 17, 2006, 10:36 PM
I have 3 (2 G.I. and 1 Bushmaster) I ordered 5 more GI mags today and I will probably oreder 5 more next week how many mags?

kennyboy
February 17, 2006, 11:50 PM
Buy a crapload of mags and ammunition and let 'r rip. Light the place up.:D

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