Anti-gun wife made me an offer

[poppy]

So my gun-hating wife and I were discussing the recent sexual assault case here in suburban Warren county where two women were sexually assaulted and robbed at gun point in a model home.

One of the women in a newspaper interview said that she, on hind sight, was willing to go through that because the perp was caught after pawning her rings. My comment was that if one of them had been armed, they didn't have to go thru the assault and could have still stopped the guy.

My wife's response was, well I still would not touch a gun, because he would just use it on me, yada, yada. My response to that was well, I'll bet if you ever fire a gun, you'd like it.

So she said, I'll make you a deal. If you take ball room dancing lessons with me, I'll go to the range with you. I really don't want to take ball room dancing lessons, but is this the only way I'll get her over her hatred of handguns? poppy

[Guns_and_Labs]

Sure, why not. Who knows, you may both find a surprising new interest. :)

[perpster]

I had to make very similar deal with my wife just to get her to apply for a handgun target permit. ("Guns are only for killing people" etc.)

I dread to think of what I'll have to agree to get her to actually go and shoot a gun once she gets the permit.

[BowStreetRunner]

sounds fair too me. my then fiance now wife and i took a couple of dancing lessons before we got married. they weren't too bad. maybe you'll like it. :)
BSR

[NoahFN]

I sort of worked a similiar deal with my soon to be fiancé (I need to stop buying guns/ammo and get a ring). She wasn't opposed to shooting with me, but agreeing to take square dancing lessons with her helped grease the wheels a little.

I'm in the SW Ohio area as well and we heard about the assault on those 2 ladies. My girlfriend has been working in the Cincy area alot lately and she's a little concerned about it. She wants to take CCW classes but finding time for her is a problem. In the meantime she's carrying pepper spray.

[Chipperman]

Shooting is fun.
Ballroom dancing is fun too.
Especially swing.

Don't dread it, look forward to it as a "growing experience". :p

Think about it. You're getting the better end of the deal.

[ArmedBear]

A few things...

Ballroom can be a lot of fun. It's not a sacrifice.

If someone really doesn't think she can shoot a rapist and would instead let him have the gun, then she probably SHOULDN'T carry. A gun in that situation is a dangerous thing if you don't use it.

I hope that her self-esteem is such that she believes that her life IS worth more than the life of a rapist. But hell, un-PC beliefs like that are why I don't go to church any more.

[Henry Bowman]

Do it. But negotiate the details.

Ballroom dancing lessons = X hours of lessons. Get her to agree to a like number of hours of firearms training, not just shooting with you at the range. She will not be the one teaching you ballroom dancing. You should not be the one teaching her shooting, no matter how good you are. Some of the shooting lessons you can do together, but not the first.

Afterward, you may not like dancing, but you will probably agree to go dancing with her from time to time. She will probably be caring enough to return the favor by going with you to shoot. Unless you are an obese couch potato, dancing will never save your life. Can't say that about shooting.


One of the women in a newspaper interview said that she, on hind sight, was willing to go through that because the perp was caught after pawning her rings. I hadn't heard that, but what a defeatist thing to say! If she had killed him DRT, he would still have been linked to all the other rapes.

My girlfriend has been working in the Cincy area alot lately and she's a little concerned about it. She wants to take CCW classes but finding time for her is a problem. In the meantime she's carrying pepper spray.I wonder how many will return to condition white now that this one has been caught. "No danger now. All is well."

[daysleeprx]

Aw come on, don't look at Ballroom dancing as something bad. It's actually a ton of fun! They way I see you're definitely getting the better end of the deal...a shooting partner AND dancing lessons to boot! :)

[sturmruger]

You might be suprised at how fun the dance classes are. I used to drag my wife to the range every few months. One day she proposed the dance lessons since I knew this would help me get her to the range in the future I agreed. I found that I actually like the dance lessons and it gives us an activity that we both enjoy that we can do together. The dance lessons have earned me a lot of brownie points especially when we are at a wedding and it is obovious that I am the only husband that knows what he is doing. Women just love to have a husband that can do that kind of stuff, just like I like having a wife that is a good shot. Just be glad she didn't want you to go to Yoga classes.

Edited to add:

I started printing out all of the stories I could find about women that killed an attacker in their home or with a CCW. I knew I couldn't get my wife to read them if I asked her to so I left them in the magazine basket in her bathroom. At first she complained, but then she started reading them and found out that they are pretty interesting. She is coming around slowly but surely, you just have to try to take baby steps.

[XavierBreath]

Do it. Trust me.
A man who can dance is a very popular fellow at weddings, wakes, and a whole host of other functions. If you decide you don't want to do it, she will let you off that hook very fast.

[Darkness]

Like others have said already, ballroom dancing is not all that bad, plus, when you go to any special events, Firemans' or Policemans' Balls, or Veterans' stuff, it is nice to be able to dance with some of the old timers rather than sit like an uncultured lump.

I took my wife out shooting shortly after meeting her, and she is a darn good shot! She loves to plink away with 10mm.

We live right on the edge of Hamilton / Warren county off of Fields Ertel (Cinci-Mason area). If your wife needs to talk to another lady about shooting, let me know.

So far we have just been shooting at Target World when we get the chance, seeing as how I can't find another public range around here anywhere.

[poppy]

Xavier A man who can dance is a very popular fellow at weddings, wakes
OK, no question about weddings, but wakes?:eek: You guys must do things differently in the south.:confused: poppy

[41 Redhawk]

Ballroom dancing = holding a woman close (most of the time)
Teaching shooting = holding a woman close (while learning)

How do you lose here?????

[AJ Dual]

+1 on making sure you get as much shooting out of her as she gets dance lessons out of you.

(And don't worry, I betchya James Bond knows some ballroom dancing. :D )

Don't screw up her first shooting experience... You've got one chance to make an impression.

A few suggestions, forgive me if they're obvious, I'm going to list them all in no particular preference some might be contradictoray depending if her first shooting is informal plinking, or formal training with an instructor. (I don't recomend much in between...)

- Have her "warm up" with an air rifle, or Airsoft at home first if possible. Shoot some paper cups or cans in the backyard or garage etc.

- Have her try a .22 rifle first. Then a .22 pistol or revolver.

- Use interesting, reactive targets. Water bottles, clay pigeons, old fruit, metal .22 spinner targets etc., if where you're shooting allows it. All are better than paper. Start at seven yards, then move out.

- Shoot in a secluded and informal (but safe) area if possible. Or, try to go to a formal range on a slow or empty day so gunfire and range-officer commands don't rattle the new shooter. You can also avoid "bubba's" who might give her a bad impression of the sport and RKBA.

- Have her meet and speak with other women shooters if possible, if it's not possible, make it possible, ask around.

- Try to get her some formal training and/or an introductory class with a good instructor that is not YOU. Even in the most patient and loving couple, there's always some "spouse tension" (She discounts some critical point, thinking you're "showing off", or you actualy are "showing off" etc...) that won't be there with a pro who's also a stranger.

- Don't place any preconcieved "woman's gun" notions onto her. Let her try any gun she likes (within the bounds of what you have, can rent, hold at the gun store, or borrow). Don't limit her on what's "too big", "too small", or the "wrong brand". She needs to be empowered with her preferences, and a gun that's "hers".

- Be sure to mention how women are often better shots than men, and shooting is one of the few skill based sports where men and women can participate and/or compete together on an equal footing.

Also, if you do get her to be an active "shooter" offer for her to try or at least see several different kinds of sport shooting. A social activity/event like trap, skeet, maybe even ISPC or IPDA, and the different kinds of people at each ev will keep her coming back.

[carpettbaggerr]

Jump on it now, before she decides you should take quilting lessons instead! :uhoh:

[SnakeEater]

Hey Darkness, come on down to the Middletown Sportsmans Club. Great outdoor rifle and pistol range and a really relaxed atmosphere.

[gudel]

I've been doing ballroom for 7 years. I've got as much as compliment "you're such a great leader!", "it's really fun dancing with you", just as much as I get "nice HK!"

You have no idea how powerful it can be for guy who can dance well, and shoot. Chicks love guys with nice guns and who can dance. :D
In your case, you're still screwed as you're married. :neener:

Too bad you're not near. I'll teach you how to dance, trade for one of your gun ;)

[cidirkona]

Ballroom dancing = holding a woman close (most of the time)
Teaching shooting = holding a woman close (while learning)

How do you lose here?????

...because it's his WIFE.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

...sorry... :neener: :evil:

-Colin

[Sistema1927]

For you: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4, 1 - 2 - 3 - 4

For her: Breathe, Relax, Aim, Slack, Squeeze

Take up the dancing. It might just save her life.

[Geno]

Dancing with your favorite lady and shooting with her. :) Awesome deal! Wish I could get MY wife back to the range. But, SHE grew up under the military dictator (Pinochet) in Chile. Little chance to win her over. Tolerance is about the best I can hope for.

Hope it goes great for you, and thanks for sharing.

Doc2005

[cidirkona]

Take up the dancing. It might just save her life.

I like it! You better copyright that!

-Colin

[armoredman]

Kinda reminds me of an AC/DC song....

[pauli]

you are a gun owner. statistically speaking, you need the exercise.

[Jim Keenan]

I have found a challenge to be surprisingly successful with people who are anti-gun. Here is a scenario.

Me: Well, of course it would be silly for you to have a gun, you couldn't hit anything anyhow.

Her: What do you mean I couldn't hit anything?

Me: Everybody knows women can't shoot, they just aren't capable of that kind of concentration and practice.

Her: Oh, yeah, you male chauvinist pig, I'll bet I could shoot as well as you can if I tried.

Me: There is no point in that, I know you can't shoot, because you are a woman.

Her: Baloney! The next time you go to the range let me know and I will go along and show you who can shoot!

Mission accomplished.

There is one drawback. Twice the ammo expenditure, a new gun for the birthday costs more than a dinner and a card, etc.

Jim

[CAnnoneer]

One of the women ... was willing to go through that because the perp was caught after pawning her rings.

Huh? :what:

I really don't want to take ball room dancing lessons, but is this the only way I'll get her over her hatred of handguns? poppy

A small price to pay for her safety. Besides, you might like it. Waltz may get you dizzy, but tango can be quite arousing, depending on your and her temperament. You may also get to paw a sexy instructor or two.

Chances are, you will also step on her toes quite a few times, so she may decide to quit before you do.

Most women feel empowered by guns eventually, so all you need to do is give her a taste.

[torpid]

I have found a challenge to be surprisingly successful with people who are anti-gun. Here is a scenario.

Me: Well, of course it would be silly for you to have a gun, you couldn't hit anything anyhow.

Her: What do you mean I couldn't hit anything?

Me: Everybody knows women can't shoot, they just aren't capable of that kind of concentration and practice.

Her: Oh, yeah, you male chauvinist pig, I'll bet I could shoot as well as you can if I tried.

Me: There is no point in that, I know you can't shoot, because you are a woman.

Her: Baloney! The next time you go to the range let me know and I will go along and show you who can shoot!

You: No way, I'm not wasting my time on a lost cause like that!

Her: Oh, come on, what- are you chicken?

You: Nope. Case closed. End of story.

Mission accomplished???!!!!
:neener:

[progunner1957]

Ballroom dancing lessons = X hours of lessons. Get her to agree to a like number of hours of firearms training, not just shooting with you at the range.AMEN to that!!

She is suffering from one of the antigun bigot's most pernicious delusions, to wit:
"A woman beaten and raped is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun in her hands and a dead would-be rapist at her feet."

In this era of HIV, AIDS and 80 some STDs that a rape victim can have transmitted to them, rape is no longer a matter of humiliation and emotional trauma. It is a matter of life and death, plain and simple. Your wife needs to get her mind around this fact, ASAP.

If you can get her interested in shooting and get her into some high quality handgun training, GREAT!! I would try to get her into Lethal Force Institute's "LFI 1" course. At $700, it is not cheap, but it is most likely the finest gun related self defense course of its kind.

[GoBrush]

Go for it!:D

We need converts especially the ones we live with. Make it an even deal equal time at the range vs dancing. In my mind worst case she will tolerate your guns and the shooting sports best case you will be enrolling her in a CCW class come spring time. Maybe even buying her an AR15:D

Good luck and we want a full report...... atleast on the shooting part you can skip the details on the dancing.

[Waitone]

You'll just have to take one for the team. :D

She could choose a lot worse than ball room dancing like having to accompany here while shopping for shoes. You'll learn new social skills, meet new people and mess with their minds when they learn you ballroom dance (cultured, sophisticated) and shoot guns (neanderthal, low-brow, unenlightened). Beside, you'll be really light in your loafers when you go through a combat stage. :neener:

[MCgunner]

I had to make very similar deal with my wife just to get her to apply for a handgun target permit. ("Guns are only for killing people" etc.)

I dread to think of what I'll have to agree to get her to actually go and shoot a gun once she gets the permit.


Mmm, inform a dumb Texan, but what exactly is a "Handgun Target Permit"? This sounds really draconian.:rolleyes: Now, you gotta have a permit to shoot targets?

[XLMiguel]

I got sent to cottillion at age 9 when I lived in Richmond, and I didn't like it much. Now I'm big, and I don't have to if I don't want to, but though I'm not much of a dancer, there are times when one must dance with one's wife/girlfriend/SO if one wants peace in his house If you're going to go dancing, a few lessons won't hurt and your lady will appreciate looking good on the dance floor.

Ballroom dancing is just another social skill that opens up one's horizons.

Good luck at the range, I hope you have fun and find another pastime to share.

edited for typos

[afasano]

So my gun-hating wife and I were discussing the recent sexual assault case here in suburban Warren county where two women were sexually assaulted and robbed at gun point in a model home.

One of the women in a newspaper interview said that she, on hind sight, was willing to go through that because the perp was caught after pawning her rings. My comment was that if one of them had been armed, they didn't have to go thru the assault and could have still stopped the guy.

My wife's response was, well I still would not touch a gun, because he would just use it on me, yada, yada. My response to that was well, I'll bet if you ever fire a gun, you'd like it.

So she said, I'll make you a deal. If you take ball room dancing lessons with me, I'll go to the range with you. I really don't want to take ball room dancing lessons, but is this the only way I'll get her over her hatred of handguns? poppy

So in that case, would her choice be to be assaulted? Women and that pro-choice thing again. They always want a choice but they get pissed if we buy "another gun" with our own money. :banghead: :confused: :) :cuss: :D ;) :what:

[Standing Wolf]

Men who can't dance just stand around holding up walls and watching the beautiful women dance with men who can.

[Oldskoolfan]

Dancing is a lot of fun. I took a salsa dance class (I am a college student) and learned something good.

There was 24 people in the class plus 1 instructor. (She was very attractive Cuban woman.) The limit was 24 so bear with me. Out of the 24 there was 4 guys. 1 guy was their with his wife and the other was there with his fiance. I had my own partner but we were not a couple just friends. I told my roommate to come down to the class. So the ratio of guys to girls who couldnt find a date to class was 2 to 17. (The 2 couples, myself, my partner, and my roommate were the 6).

It is a lot of fun and you will meet women. Seeing as how this is your wife you may consider inviting another couple you are friends with. This way you will not feel silly messing up while you dance. Its definately worth doing.

[karlsgunbunker]

Mmm, inform a dumb Texan, but what exactly is a "Handgun Target Permit"? This sounds really draconian.:rolleyes: Now, you gotta have a permit to shoot targets?

Here in "Yankee Land" handguns are more restricted. I'm a Native Texan living in Indiana.

Indiana requires a permit to have a handgun in your posession (other than going between the gun shop/smith and home) any time you leave your property with it.

The permits are must issue and cost about $30 for full CCW. (4 Years)

Overall it's easier to carry here and less expensive. I thought it was crazy at first but it cost what $150 for classes and $150 for the CCw in TX and AR (lived both places).

Of course I prefer NH type law (no permit required).

Some states require a permit to purchase, MO, IL, MA among others.

Now that's crazy.

KGB

[el44vaquero]

Dancing at a wake? There's a few graves I might dance on, but never during the wake. Bad form. ;)

[Vex]

Warren County? You're less than an hour away from me. In fact, I was just there TODAY (Feb 16) shooting at Spring Valley shooting range, the state run range near Waynesville. Nice range!

[JMACDONALD]

POPPY, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD NUMEROUS PEOPLE TELL YOU YOU WILL ENJOY THE DANCING LESSONS WHICH IS MORE THAN LIKEY TRUE. HOW EVER IF YOU DONT HAVE FUN AT LEAST KNOW YOU'RE TAKING ONE ON THE CHIN FOR A GOOD REASON..........TEACHING THE WOMAN YOU LOVE TO PERTECT HERSELF AND OTHER LOVED ONES. PLUS THE FACT YOU MAY GET TO PUT YOUR HAND ONE HER BUTT IN CLASS AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR B-DAY!!! - JOE

[xjmox14x]

break out the dancing shoes

[grimjaw]

Ballroom dancing is about the *only* kind I would agree to. I think I'd shuffle over to that offer.

jmm

[Beetle Bailey]

Ballroom dancing will help your footwork for El Presidente. ;)

[ziadel]

Dude, ballroom dancing is the tits.


You just might find the grace you acquire useful in 3-gun matches. ;)

[twoblink]

Guns are only for killing people

Well, that's not a bad thing if the guy's a bad guy..:neener:

I always ask the anti's who are mothers the same thing:

If there was a gun, and there was a perp stabbing your son right in front of you, would you:

A) Pick up the cell phone

B) Pick up the gun and shoot the bas**d

The choice to me is easy..

[Seven High]

I wonder if those two women in Ohio that were sexually assaulted took into consideration that the suspect might have a sexually transmitted disease. They do not have the right to inquire about this.

[Frandy]

I say DANCE!

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[Jubei]

Put on your happy feet and dance my friend. Just don't show up for your first dance lesson in a white polyester suit. I don't think that would make a good first impression on your instructor or your wife.

Jubei

[R.H. Lee]

So what CCW rig for ballroom dancing? I'm thinkin' IWB @ 4 O'clock.

[otomik]

sounds like the start of an offbeat romantic comedy

Tango de la Muerte!

[jmtgsx]

I found out early that if I endured these things with a good attitude & a smile on my face I was rewarded with...shall we say a motivated partner. I think ballroom dancing would fit here nicely ,too.


YMMV:D

[Shweboner]

Im happy that my wife likes guns... No deals to be made... except when she goes with me, she makes me load her magazines.:rolleyes:


Go for the dancing man... seriously your wife will thank you in more ways than one:evil:

[mrmeval]

Ballroom dancing is about as erotic as it gets. It's on par with 3 1/2" 12 guage shotguns made with .50 BMG brass.


So my gun-hating wife and I were discussing the recent sexual assault case here in suburban Warren county where two women were sexually assaulted and robbed at gun point in a model home.

...

So she said, I'll make you a deal. If you take ball room dancing lessons with me, I'll go to the range with you. I really don't want to take ball room dancing lessons, but is this the only way I'll get her over her hatred of handguns? poppy

[CAnnoneer]

Men who can't dance just stand around holding up walls and watching the beautiful women dance with men who can.

Ain't that the bitter truth...

[IZinterrogator]

So what CCW rig for ballroom dancing? I'm thinkin' IWB @ 4 O'clock.Nope, SmartCarry.

"Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" :evil:

A cumberbund may slow down your draw, though. ;)

[robert garner]

Man I always wanted to tango...





Then I saw Gomez an Morticia do the Mazurka!!!!!!
Seriously tho the term Killer IS better as a double entendre!?

[Croyance]

I really don't want to take ball room dancing lessons, but is this the only way I'll get her over her hatred of handguns? poppy
I haven't read any post other than this one.
However, I have no idea why you would see it as reasonable that she should understand and try one of your hobbies if you will not do the same for her. Two way street.

On a side note - Some rapists kill their victims figuring they are up for capital punishment anyways. I suppose this is especially true for a guy looking at a 'three strikes' penalty.

[Hemicuda]

are y'all kidding? Ballroom dancing is FUN!!! you get to hold a woman close (take time to say nice things to her as you dance, make that face turn red, cause a huge smile.)

enjoy holding her so close... makea SHOW of it... for you, her, AND the crowd...

then have fun shooting with her too!



Hemi - Active shooter and Ballroom Dancer...

[phoglund]

I need to vote with the "go dancing" crowd on this one. My wife and I have taken classes in Foxtrot, Jitterbug, Salsa, Samba, Tango and a few others I can't remember off hand. They are lots of fun, you get to dance with lots of women, and you become a bit more coordinated on your feet.

My favorite was the Tango. It's intricate, involved, and very intimate. Properly done there is a lot of full body contact in motion. If you never try it you will never know what your missing! :D

A little story:

I once participated in a Tango seminar with a teaching couple from Argentina. As you might know Tango is an Argentinan dance. The Argentinan people are a very intimate sort it seems. Anyway, as I was dancing with a woman I didn't know well the female half of the teaching team stopped us and positioned herself in front of me and told me to embrace her as to dance. Knowing the point she was trying to make about not using a close enough embrace I made sure to hold her very close when I embraced her. She pulled away and gave me a look and said "No, EMBRACE me!!" I'm now quite knowledgeable about each and every curve of that womans body. Definately a worthwhile activity to participate in. If you are single it's a great way to meet women, if you are attached it's a great way to legitimately put your arms around other women. How can you lose? :p

The other nice thing about dancing, particularly Tango, is that it's one of the few activities in todays society where men are expected to take control of the situation at hand and "lead" a woman. Indeed a man who knows how to lead well is in high demand on the dance floor. So...get out there guys, learn how to dance, show your woman you know how to take control of a situation.

Edited:

Oh, yeah, and obviously if it gets your woman shooting, all the better, just don't get too intimate with your other dance partners if she gets real handy with a pistol!

[Archie]

At the very least you will have showed good faith in trying to get along with the Mrs.

For me and the rest of us who are not currently married, engaged or otherwise spoken for, this is another item to add to the "prenuptial, pre-dating, pre-boinking" agreement. Along with limits on claims on my retirement, assets and home, one line item will readI have guns in my home and on my person. They stay. You will learn enough to be safe around them.If she refuses to agree, thanks anyway, but no thanks.

[Thain]

I always laugh when I read these types of stories!

My wife is a much better shot than me, and is hopping mad that she hasn't been able to shoot for the past six months. (Only three more to go. You can guess why!)

Meanwhile, I was quite the "rug cutter" in High School... swing, tango, cha-cha, waltz... Heck, I even did a decent polka. But my wife hates to dance! :scrutiny:

[V4Vendetta]

"Dancing at a wake? There's a few graves I might dance on, but never during the wake. Bad form."


Actually, I told my parents that I want a wake if I die. A wake is like a party where people tell stories & jokes about the person who's dead, there's dancing, music & a cheerful atmosphere. I'd rather have that than a depressing funeral.

"Take up the dancing. It just might save her life."


You should patent that & put it on bumper stickers. To the original poster, take the lessons. Dancing isn't all that bad. One time at a party we had a little dance where everybody follows the instructions from the CD. I went along at first & then just started doing all kinds of crazy moves like break-dancing & such. I'm a class clown so it was funny. I got several laughs.:D

[Mute]

Man up and get your wife to the shooting range. There used to be a time when a gentlemen knew how to fire a gun and show a good time to a lady on the dance floor.

[V4Vendetta]

[QUOTE=Mute There used to be a time when a gentlemen knew how to fire a gun and show a good time to a lady on the dance floor.[/QUOTE]


He's right. Watch any old B & W movie to confirm it.

[gunfan]

You'll quickly discover that its a "win-win" situation! (Where have we heard that before)?:confused:

Scott

[lawboy]

I didn't read the whole thread so excuse me if this has been suggested already. However, it seems to me the fair deal is one range session of equal time for every ball room dancing session of equal time. One 30-minute range session for a two-week, six session ballroom dancine course at 90 minutes per session is no deal. That will just eat up all your shooting time for two weeks!

[rageofangels]

Your wife sounds amazing. Cherish her and the future you two will have together if you continue to compromise.

[30 cal slob]

Sounds like the beginning of a Beautiful Thing.

I wonder if there is a way to combine ballroom dancing with say, competitive subgunning into a new sport.

[Skipper]

You guys sure make me appreciate my wife. She knows that guns are NOT my "hobby", but rather, the essence of who I am. She encourages and cultivates me. Now having said that, I'd do anything she wanted me to,but I get that back many times over.
By the way, how does one of "us" wind up with an anti-gun wife?

Regards,
SKIP

[poppy]

Skipper By the way, how does one of "us" wind up with an anti-gun wife?
Good question. Part of the answer is that opposites attract. Another part of the answer in my case is that we were married in 1964 when being anti-gun was not a question or concern. I bought my first rifle by mail order.

I made the mistake of never taking her out shooting in the early years and she developed her views listening to liberals. This attack on the two women in our "safe" neighborhood has gotten her attention. poppy

[Duramaximum]

I have seen some changed minds after taking them to the range. I have a friend who is a foreign exchange student from South Korea and she was always taught that guns were only used for killing people and destroying things, giving them a very bad rap:evil: . After a few trips to the range and her and her friends getting over their fear of the guns, she became an incredibly good clay shooter. It's rather comical because she is still scared of the recoil, but if it flies, it dies:D .

[Srigs]

Time to put on your dancing shoes! :)