looking for BULK 9mm ammo......lots and cheap!!


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David S
April 14, 2003, 12:58 AM
I love shooting my P99, but the $10 for a box of 100 (winchester white box from walmart) kinda adds up.........is there anyway to get cheaper ammo in bulk? if so where?
i dont want any of this Speer gold dot that may or may not be any good, and i also dont want any thing with corrisive primers like i hear about from the russian stuff.........

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RON in PA
April 14, 2003, 01:08 AM
You are not going to do much better than the 100 round box of Winchester White box unless you get into reloading. It's possible to find cheaper Sellor and Bellet or Bazer 9mm, but if you add in the shipping you are not going to save much.

If you want "cheap" go .22LR.

makdaddy03
April 14, 2003, 01:18 AM
cheaperthandirt.com:)

voilsb
April 14, 2003, 01:23 AM
ammoman.com is a good source. right now he's got 500 rounds of winchester white-box 115gr 9mm for $89 (shipping already included in price).

he's also got greek 124gr 9mm for $119 per 1000 rounds

WonderNine
April 14, 2003, 01:32 AM
He's already only paying $50 for 500 rounds of Whitebox at Walmart.

I've always found Ammoman to have the highest prices of anybody....

agony
April 14, 2003, 01:38 AM
I concur that the white-box 100 round packs are one of the cheapest ways to go....I'm only saving 20 cents per fifty reloading 9mm 115gr TMJ.

voilsb
April 14, 2003, 01:41 AM
d'oh! I read his post, and somehow missed the price on his $10/100

sorry about that.

CZ 75 BD
April 14, 2003, 03:43 AM
in your area? Blazer 115gr FMJ aluminum case $8.00 per C.:cool:

WonderNine
April 14, 2003, 03:47 AM
in your area? Blazer 115gr FMJ aluminum case $8.00 per C.

$8.00 per 100? Honestly though, I'm not a big fan of Blazers as they are steel cased, but they are loaded hotter than normal which is cool :cool:

DerRottweiler
April 14, 2003, 04:06 AM
Blazer's are not steel cased! They are aluminum cased!

WonderNine
April 14, 2003, 06:06 AM
Blazer's are not steel cased! They are aluminum cased!

I stand corrected. Looked like rough steel to me, but I only shot two boxes worth.

Still, there's no reason to shoot anything other than brass cased through your semi-auto nowadays even if you can't afford anything else because if you look around they are all priced the same.

DerRottweiler
April 14, 2003, 06:42 AM
WonderNine

I agree with you on the Brass issue. But the Blazer ammo will function fine in most weapons, I have shot thousands of rounds of the stuff. However some weapons just don't like it.
The steel cased stuff that you are refering to is primarily Russan Manufactured. It has been known to give some weapons fits. This tends to be primarily due the Lacquer Sealant they use on the Primer and the Bullet to Case groove. As the weapon heats up during firing it gum's up the action.
The Walmart Value Pack 9mm is pretty hard to beat on price because most of the time if you order on-line you pay shipping and that tends to kill any savings you might be getting on-line.

samualt
April 14, 2003, 06:52 AM
I buy by the box at Academy Sports (http://www.academy.com/) . If they are in your area they have 9mm CCI Blazer for $4 box of 50. I haven't seen cheaper by the box.

Jeepin' Lawyer
April 14, 2003, 11:18 AM
Start keeping the brass from your Winchester White Box then buy yourself a press and start reloading it. It reloads great!! A Lee press is a pretty good way to start out reloading for a modest investment. If you can swing a little more cash go for a Dillon.

Lofland
April 14, 2003, 11:41 AM
two good ways to train cheaply:

1) do a lot of dry fire practice. See www.mattburkett.com, Brian Enos's book "Practical Shooting" (www.brianenos.com), and the technique and training sections of www.glockfaq.com.

2) get an Airsoft gas-blowback gun or realistic pellet gun, such as the Crosman version of th Walther P99. www.airsoftatlanta.com, www.crosman.com. 5,000 Airsoft pellets plus the necessary gas would run about $60 to $70. Can't get cheaper than that. Good for practicing at home on weeknights.

MoNsTeR
April 14, 2003, 01:40 PM
You will only rarely be able to beat the Walmart packs, and only by $10-$20 a case on that rare occasion. This just about the cheapest centerfire ammo around, and if it's too pricey, you need to either
1) start reloading
2) get a .22
3) get a raise
Preferably all three :neener:

10-Ring
April 14, 2003, 04:08 PM
Tough to beat the Walmart specials, especially here in CA! If you like your P99, maybe get a P22 & shoot 22's!

firestar
April 14, 2003, 07:43 PM
Can anyone seriously reload 9mm cheaper than the cheap 9mm on the market? I mean when you can pay $5 a box ($4 for Blazer apparently), what is the point? If someone has a way of reloading 9mm FMJ ammo to the approximate specs as Win White box, I would love to hear how you do it.

Here is about what I pay for reloading supplies:
Primers- about 1.5-2 cents each
Powder-maybe .5 cent per shot?
FMJ bullets- 6-7 each
Brass- depends but if bought for reloading, it is about 5 cents each but you can use it many many times, lets call it .5 cents, that will give you 10 loadings.
Reloading dies and equipment-this cost money and has to be figuired in at some point.
The huge amount of time it takes, to do a case (1000 rounds) it takes me about 10 hrs.

Add it up and we are talking 8-9 cents each before we factor in reloading equipment and time. I can't see reloading for the 9mm unless you are doing special loads. For just plinking, it is really hard to beat factory ammo prices.

MoNsTeR
April 14, 2003, 08:20 PM
Primers run about $14 per thousand at local gun shows. I can pay a little less if I buy 5000 and a little more if I can't wait for a show and have to go to a shop. Good 9mm bullets are around $40-$50 per thousand, less if you settle for cast lead and more if you want to load JHP's. Powder costs vary, between about $8 and $22 per 1k. Brass can be collected/hoarded/scrounged for only your time, or bought on eBay for about $20 per 1k or less.

So that's
$14 (primers)
$45 (bullets)
$12 (powder, based on a typical load)
$20 (brass)
---------
$91 total.

Buy primers in bulk, use an efficient powder, pick up your brass, and you can get that down to $68 per 1k still using jacketed bullets. Use plated or cast bullets and you can pinch a few more pennies yet.

None of this takes into account the cost of equipment, or the value of your time, which are potentially very real costs. Basic equipment is quite cheap, and the nicer high-volume presses will last many years, so the cost of equipment will be amortized by the savings on ammo (especially with as much as you seem to be shooting!). Further, what most find is that reloading is almost as much fun as shooting, so the effort that seemed like a cost becomes a benefit. And with a good progressive, that time expenditure, whether "fun" or "work" will be minimal. You ought to be able to turn out an entire case in 3 or 4 hours, tops.

9mm is one of the hardest calibers to "turn a profit on", so to speak. If you stick to your P99 or to 9mm's in general, you may never see reloading as worth your while. But the minute you buy a .357, .40, or .45, the ammo costs are going to hurt much worse than $11 for a Walmart 100pack. If you get the hang of reloading now, your wallet will be able to accomodate a much broader spectrum of shooting enjoyment now and in the future.

For further reading, search here, at TFL, and the rec.guns archives for words like "reloading", "cost", "savings", and "worth it". This topic gets hashed out a couple of times a week :D

JeepDriver
April 14, 2003, 08:25 PM
I've looked high and low and can't beat the value packs in Wal Mart.

It cost me $115.90 tax included for 1000 rounds. Closest I've came on the internet is $121 for 1000 rounds of S&B 115 FMJ from Natchez(when it's on sale).

Not a huge difference in price until I think about having to wait a week for the ammo to arrive. When Wal Mart is just about everywhere, and you can walk right in and pick up ammo anytime.

David S
April 14, 2003, 09:51 PM
alright, well i had to ask........................its just durty ammo, but cheap = durty

cratz2
April 14, 2003, 10:32 PM
Back when I shot lots of 9mm, I tried to shoot S&B mostly. I bought most of it from Natchez - I'd by 2,000 rounds when it was on sale. I also shot Winchester and Blazer and never had a problem with either of them but over 25,000 rounds or so, I prefer the S&B.

For the record, I haven't had one misfire with any of those reclassified Gold Dots in my Taurus PT99 or my Kahr.

Alex
April 15, 2003, 12:16 PM
If you cast your own bullets with scrounged lead your cost per 1000 should be around $50.

incursion
April 15, 2003, 04:46 PM
The cheapest that I can consistently get 9mm ammo for is $3.99/50 for Blazer at Academy or Oshman's in Plano, TX. The cheapest that I've ever seen 9mm go for is $1.99/50 at Bass Pro Shops in Grapevine, TX for Winchester White Box. It was a sale that lasted one weekend.

laynlow
April 15, 2003, 04:59 PM
I buy by the box at Academy Sports . If they are in your area they have 9mm CCI Blazer for $4 box of 50. I haven't seen cheaper by the box.

Just a FYI, not all Academy stores honor this price. It seems to mainly be a Texas phenomena. They laughed at me in Tulsa. :uhoh:

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