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kennyboy
February 16, 2006, 08:50 PM
Which rifle has the smoothest bolt? I have three Winchester 70's. The bolts are smooth, but when I bring the bolt forward and pull down, I have difficulty pulling the bolt. It doesn't seem as smooth as it should be. Shouldn't the bolt just basically go in place effortlessly? I'll note that I have shot Winchester model 70 bolt actions as well as other brands such as Remington. However, I only notice my gun because it is mine.

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otomik
February 16, 2006, 09:02 PM
tikka t3, smooth

Cosmoline
February 16, 2006, 09:07 PM
I've heard the Steyr SBS rifles are quite smooth. Haven't had a chance to shoot one.

The Mannlicher-Schoenauer commercial rifles have amazingly smooth actions. They will cycle themselves if you let them.

Redhat
February 16, 2006, 09:43 PM
Colt-Sauer was the smoothest I ever tried

MCgunner
February 16, 2006, 09:46 PM
Amazingly, I think the smoothest bolt I've ever turned is on a $27.50 Mauser 88 commission rifle I bought 30 years ago. It is UNREAL smooth. Second best is my Remington M722, another older, well broke in action. Either of these rifles, if you open the bolt, then tilt them slightly rearward, the bolt will just glide open.

ACORN
February 16, 2006, 09:52 PM
Colt-Sauer is the smoothest I've used. It is like the bolt is riding on ball bearings. An honorable mention has to go to the old Krag's, considering they were military rifles and not sporting guns.

f4t9r
February 16, 2006, 09:53 PM
Browning A-bolt is pretty smooth

Ohen Cepel
February 16, 2006, 09:56 PM
Of ones that I have handled, I would second the Tikka T3.

Sure there are better, but I haven't touched them.

Darkside852003
February 16, 2006, 09:57 PM
My Steyr has the smoothest I have ever used.

rbernie
February 16, 2006, 10:02 PM
Sauer 202.

Rembrandt
February 16, 2006, 10:27 PM
Colt Sauer........nothing smoooooother. Feels like the bolt is on ball bearings.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/ColtSauer2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/ColtSauer3.jpg

IV Troop
February 16, 2006, 10:46 PM
Tikka T3, hands down.

esldude
February 16, 2006, 10:51 PM
Steyr SBS is best I have used in a centerfire.

EZ CZ75
February 16, 2006, 10:57 PM
I agree with the T3 vote, except that my Sako 75 is a little smoother. Absolutely nice!

kentucky_smith
February 16, 2006, 10:58 PM
1895 Chileno Mauser. With the safety on (it's cock on close) it would close itself. Butter.

Dionysusigma
February 16, 2006, 10:58 PM
Personally, I think it's a tie between the old Krags and a Steyr CISM. Maybe Azrael256's K31.

beerslurpy
February 16, 2006, 11:33 PM
In my humble opinion tikka/sako > rem 700, winchester, browning. The tikka was the only one that felt completely smooth and effortless. It doesnt seem to bind up at either end of the motion. A lot of bolt guns tend to be very tight and almost feel "stuck" when you try to cycle them with a less than brutal effort.

It is also nice that the gun is tack drivingly accurate with even cheap factory loads.

jobu07
February 16, 2006, 11:58 PM
Any Enfield i've ever handled had a wonderfully smooth action.

Hemicuda
February 17, 2006, 12:00 AM
My Manlicher Schoenauer bolt gun with the butterknife handle... that thing will darned near bolt itself... it is SO smooth and easy...

John G
February 17, 2006, 12:00 AM
Another vote for the Browning A-bolt.

Beav
February 17, 2006, 12:01 AM
of the 3 bolts I own my SIG is the smoothest then the Remington 700P, last is the CZ550.

hank327
February 17, 2006, 12:08 AM
Every Lee-Enfield I've handled was very smooth, almost glass like. No Mauser 98 based bolt action is even close to a Lee-Enfield in smoothness or speed of manipulation.

hoghunting
February 17, 2006, 12:49 AM
My vote is for the Tikka T3. It is definitely smoother and more accurate than my Kimber; and also about half the cost. I have not used the Sako, but I would buy another Tikka without considering any other brands.

ghost squire
February 17, 2006, 01:15 AM
One of the reasons the Enfield is the king of bolt action combat rifles is because of its fantastic speed. A Mauser doesn't really come close.

The Mannlicher butter knife bolt handled have been known to handle well and cycle smoothly for about 100 years or more. Even the British with their Enfields bought them because of this.

They all have their niches.

Sam
February 17, 2006, 01:17 AM
Krag,
Hands down

Sam

Ol` Joe
February 17, 2006, 01:49 AM
Sauer 200/202

ftierson
February 17, 2006, 02:05 AM
My Manlicher Schoenauer bolt gun with the butterknife handle... that thing will darned near bolt itself... it is SO smooth and easy...

Although the Sauer (Colt) cam-lug bolts are quite smooth, the best of all is probably the MS 1961 MCA...

Forrest

swingset
February 17, 2006, 02:37 AM
Commercial Lee-Enfield No1 sporter, was the slickest I've handled. Krag's are a close runner up, and it doesn't count as a turn-bolt, but a Canadian Ross rifle with a little wear on it is just glassy smooth too.

LAK
February 17, 2006, 04:19 AM
IME Mannlicher-Schoenauer and the Swiss K-31.
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Roudy
February 17, 2006, 05:06 AM
There are many bolt action rifles I haven't handled but among the ones I have the Lee-Enfield is the smoothest. It is one of the few that rifles that I can work the bolt by just tilting my head and keeping the rifle in my shoulder.:)

Rottweiler
February 17, 2006, 05:25 AM
+1 on the Sauer 202

xring44
February 17, 2006, 06:00 AM
The J.P. Sauer, (Colt Sauer was built by them) is incredably smooth, beautiful machining in the bolt and action. Also very smooth is the Sako 75s, some much more so than others, I have owned three of them, one exceptionally smooth the others much smoother than the average across the counter rifle.

only1asterisk
February 17, 2006, 06:20 AM
Krag.

David

twoblink
February 17, 2006, 06:27 AM
In the affordable price catagory: Tikka.

In the not so affordable price catagory: The Steyr Mannlichers..

db_tanker
February 17, 2006, 06:54 AM
The last Browning I picked up was smoother than glass.

My Enfield is nice, as well...

I figure if I lapped my mauser it would be pretty smooth, but its nice enough as it is now. :)


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hksw
February 17, 2006, 12:21 PM
Anschütz 54 action.

TIMC
February 17, 2006, 12:57 PM
I agree with the T3 vote, except that my Sako 75 is a little smoother. Absolutely nice!

I have a Sako 75 too, smoothest bolt action I have ever seen.

45crittergitter
February 17, 2006, 01:12 PM
I have done very limited comparing with other bolt actions, but I have a couple of Tikka T3s and they are far smoother than Remington, Winchester, Browning, etc.

bogie
February 17, 2006, 10:42 PM
Every Bat action I've ever played with has been unreal. I've got a pair of Grizzlies that are a year old, and _starting_ to get broke in.

Before I tried a Bat, I thought my 1990 Panda was good...

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ozarkhillbilly
February 17, 2006, 11:12 PM
+1 Lee-Enfield

Lonestar.45
February 17, 2006, 11:27 PM
No one has said Mosin Nagant yet?? :rolleyes:

m14rick
February 18, 2006, 11:11 AM
The US Krag has been the smoothest!

BevrFevr
February 18, 2006, 02:01 PM
Sako and Tikka, They are sweet! Honorable mention goes to browning A-bolts.

I have never worked the bolt on a colt-sauer but they sure seem to have fans here. My experience is most people have not felt or even heard of tikka/sako. Those that have, buy them and don't look back.

I can't believe enfields and Moisin's were even mentioned.

Then way down the list are remington, winchester, cz, etc. I can find a way to bind almost any other bolt action out out there but try as I might I cannot bind a tikka.

Go ahead and try it yourself.

Sactown
February 18, 2006, 02:19 PM
Enfield. Damn thing is like buttered!!

Samuel_Hoggson
February 18, 2006, 03:23 PM
Krag,
Hands down

Sam

Big +1........geez I feel like an old fart for knowing about this.

another Sam

Owen
February 18, 2006, 03:29 PM
I have yet to fondle an Enfield that wasn't glassy smooth.

I'm on the market for a hunting rifle, and I have yet to find a commercial centerfire bolt action that isn't disappointing in comparison.

kudu
February 18, 2006, 06:25 PM
I agree with several others here, if you have ever felt a Krag bolt, it is smoothest out there that I have ever felt.

runninmike
February 18, 2006, 07:13 PM
Sako is the smoothest I've felt (Although I don't own one).
I have a rem 700, a ruger 77, and a win 70, and I think their smoothness is in the order I listed them.
Best-MC

The Real Hawkeye
February 18, 2006, 08:08 PM
Which rifle has the smoothest bolt? I have three Winchester 70's. The bolts are smooth, but when I bring the bolt forward and pull down, I have difficulty pulling the bolt. It doesn't seem as smooth as it should be. Shouldn't the bolt just basically go in place effortlessly? I'll note that I have shot Winchester model 70 bolt actions as well as other brands such as Remington. However, I only notice my gun because it is mine.I agree that the Tikka is the smoothest. It seems to glide on rails of ice. That's not to say the Tikka is the best rifle, just that it has the smoothest bolt action I've ever felt.

The Real Hawkeye
February 18, 2006, 08:10 PM
Any Enfield i've ever handled had a wonderfully smooth action.I have to agree with that too. It rivals the Tikka.

chunk
February 18, 2006, 08:12 PM
MAUSER

Clean97GTI
February 18, 2006, 08:54 PM
Smoothest I've ever handled was a Krag.

funny that someone should mention a Mosin-Nagant. Mine is pretty effortless...mainly because its incredibly loose fitting.

worst one ever, was an Arisaka.

Peter M. Eick
February 19, 2006, 07:45 AM
Colt Sauer has been the best I ever felt. To bad they are so rare. I guess no one wants to sell theirs!

The Real Hawkeye
February 19, 2006, 09:45 AM
Colt Sauer has been the best I ever felt. To bad they are so rare. I guess no one wants to sell theirs!http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976676347.htm

dfaugh
February 19, 2006, 10:18 AM
I've found that by polishing/lapping the bolts, almost any can be made very, very smooth. The reason you see so many Milsurps listed is because they have been worked many, many times, and have essentially been "smoothed" by all of that use. For example, the smoothest bolt I own is a really, really well used Mauser VZ-24. I also have a Mosin that was really rough...Lapped it with valve grinding compound, then polished, and its smooth as can be, although still not quite as smooth as the VZ-24

RayDog
February 19, 2006, 11:40 AM
The bolt on my Sako TRG is the smoothest I have ever felt. It feels like it has roller bearings or something.

Nematocyst
February 24, 2006, 03:59 AM
Another vote for the Browning A-bolt. +1.

In the last few weeks,
I've been looking at:
Rem 700 SPS
Rem 700 Mt LSS
Tikka T3 Lite

My issue with the latter is that
1) their guns use a crumby little EXPENSIVE plastic magazine prone to falling out
2) their actions are LONG even with cartridges based on .308 (like 7mm08 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=182828)) which are short action.

My issue with Rem rifles is reported QC issues.
(Does not seem to apply to shotguns.
Love my 870P.)

Therefore, my attention has shifted to a higher quality rifle (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=001B&cat_id=035&type_id=008),
outside my original price range,
but ... if we seek quality, we must pay for it
...where ever it is manufactured.

Nem

.45Guy
February 24, 2006, 04:02 AM
Honestly, my father's 1956 model 70 featherweight. It impressed me enough to purchase a 1949 vintage which BTW would never hold a group near as tight. Beautiful rifle though.

jughead
February 24, 2006, 10:36 AM
Weatherby Mk 5 (german ) with the bolt all the way open,:) tip the rifle down and it will lock up by it-self

Essex County
February 24, 2006, 10:53 AM
Colt Sauer, hands down. After that comes a whole bunch too close to call. Essex

Rupestris
February 24, 2006, 12:42 PM
Centerfire seems to be covered.
Anyone have an opinion on which rimfire has the smoothest bolt?

hksw
February 24, 2006, 08:32 PM
Anschütz 54 action.

manitou210
February 25, 2006, 01:01 AM
Remington model 30s under $45 when brought out. mines 70+ years old and like glass. and this .280 Ross sporter okay to

pete f
February 25, 2006, 02:09 AM
1909 argentine mauser. The one i have is just too smooth for a mass produced weapon, oh yeah, this was a hand fitted, buffed and polished action that is by all standards a fully custom military rifle.

Krags are awful good too if you get one that has not been beat.

Some of the Kimber of oregons were pretty sensational too.

Crosshair
February 25, 2006, 02:14 AM
I would vote for both the Krag and any of the Enfield variants.

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