Autoloader vs Singleshot: Which is more "Ethical?"


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MinScout
February 16, 2006, 09:24 PM
Which is a more "ethical" hunting rifle to use, an autoloader or singleshot? An autoloader would allow fast follow-up shots on a wounded animal, which might otherwise escape. The singleshot would supposedly require the hunter to choose his shots more carefully in order to avoid having to fire additional shots. Any thoughts?

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Technosavant
February 16, 2006, 09:33 PM
Humans are toolmakers. Use the tool that you like.

To what belief system do you subscribe? Do you think animals have similar rights to ours? Etc. To talk of ethics without knowing the underlying worldview, morals, and so on is tossing darts in the dark- you might find an answer you like, but it is so detached from any context that it will be meaningless.

ClarkEMyers
February 16, 2006, 09:35 PM
People are ethical guns are tools - frex none of my guns have ever killed anything or even gone hunting without me.

lawson
February 16, 2006, 09:56 PM
single shot rifles are definitely a challenge, because you know you only have that one shot.

i wouldn't call them unethical however, because you should never take a shot that won't put the animal down clean. whether a single shot, semi-auto, bolt action, levergun, SxS, or any other configuration, ethics come down to the hunter.

mp510
February 16, 2006, 10:07 PM
It does not matter what action your rifle uses, what is important is that you are able to make a good shot when the time comes. Besides that its personal preference.

f4t9r
February 16, 2006, 10:13 PM
hunted with a single for years and now hunt with a auto. I like the auto better.
As far as game goes , I have done well with both

Bartholomew Roberts
February 16, 2006, 11:13 PM
A shot is either ethical or it isn't. The action of the rifle that makes the shot has nothing to do with that.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
February 16, 2006, 11:20 PM
I think you're spending too much of your time listening to liberal animal activists. If you want to hunt, go talk to some experienced hunters who are good at hunting. They'll teach you how to hunt in a genuine ethical manner and about good game conservation.

Just my .02,

Dave

R.W.Dale
February 17, 2006, 12:26 AM
I dont think it's so much an ethics issue as it's a marksmanship and saftey issue. I would say that if you are using a single shot that you will be a bit more inclined to make that one shot count for the most. Whereas with a semi auto you will always know in the back of your mind that "Hey if I miss I'll can shoot again"
On the saftey side. While huntin I don't know how many times I've heard a semiauto emptied by some other hunter. I doubt they think about where those other bullets are going when they miss.

A semi auto is a fine hunting firearm but you must use it wisely.

LAK
February 17, 2006, 04:37 AM
Anyone who developes a high level of proficiency with a "single shot" rifle, as to a greater degree with a bolt-action, is not nearly as ""handicapped" as many people are led to believe. A "single shot" rifle shooter has as many shots as he can carry. How rapidly he can deliver them on target is down to the skill of the shooter.
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db_tanker
February 17, 2006, 06:57 AM
The Contender mantra...."One Good Shot".


I don't care what I am carrying, though...I always think thats all I will ever have...is one chance...one shot.


The firearm doesn't make the shooter any better or worse...its the opposite.

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Rembrandt
February 17, 2006, 07:26 AM
This topic has been raging for nearly a 100 years. John Moses Browning's Auto 5 caught the wrath of single shot hunters and politicians shortly after it was introduced. Many hunters called it the unethical gamegetter. JMB was so fearful that legislation would be enacted outlawing the A5 and pumps that he began contingency plans to develope the Superposed. Fortunately cooler heads prevailed and the firestorm died down. As a result, we ended up getting another great Browning design.

An arguement could be made that repeaters allow follow up shots for humane taking of game where single shots wounds game that might not be recovered. That's more a result of sloppy shooting than the action. Repeaters give sloppy shooters a second chance. Either way, the question is like a dog chasing his tail.

iamkris
February 17, 2006, 09:32 AM
Anyone who chooses an autoloader so he shoot at game lots of times isn't a hunter. Bartholomew said it right...individual shots are either ethical or not. Not the type of action.

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