New Scope Question


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pksman
February 16, 2006, 10:07 PM
:uhoh: Need advice on a new scope for a Rem 700CDL in 3006. I am torn between the Nikon Monarch or the Leopold VX II. Both in 3X9 in a matte finnish.
Is one better than the other or is it a toss up. I have a great pair of Nikon binoculars that I love. Dont know much about leopold glass.:uhoh:

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rbernie
February 16, 2006, 11:08 PM
My experiences with both has been that they're probably equal in glass quality but the Leupold will simply be more durable.

CB900F
February 16, 2006, 11:41 PM
Pksman;

I'm with rbernie, it's hard to go wrong with a Leupold. I've got a lot of older Nikon camera equipment, but just bought my first Nikon scope. I've more than one Leupold scope & will certainly continue to buy more. I, myself, am going to be interested in the comparison of the Nikon to the Leupold. But it's the Nikon being compared to the standard of the industry as far as I'm concerned.

Let me put it this way; I would think that the two would be fairly comparable in price. Therefore if the Leupold were significantly less expensive, I'd think it a good bargain. The Nikon would have to be significantly less expensive before I'd buy it without second thoughts. Just to put out a figure for argument's sake, let's say that $30.00 or more qualifies as significant.

900F

LAK
February 17, 2006, 06:03 AM
I don't think that there is much to choose between them. Nikon are a very experienced high end optical equipment design and manufacturer. I am sure they did their homework before their first products; but they have been in the rifle and handgun scope long enough to have worked out any weaknesses. Personally I would probably go with Leupold, primarily because I prefer buying from an American company where possible.
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xring44
February 17, 2006, 06:14 AM
I'd buy AMERICAN,,but, I believe the Nikon Monarch is a bit clearer than the VariX2...I have a few Nikons, very nice scopes, that I own because they were mounted on the rifles I bought, but I buy American when possible.
Leupold has the best warranty in the business, period.

45crittergitter
February 17, 2006, 01:19 PM
I'd buy AMERICAN,,but, I believe the Nikon Monarch is a bit clearer than the VariX2...I

The poster specified a VX-II, not a Vari-X II. There's a noticeable difference. The VX-II is equivalent to the Vari-X III.

kennyboy
February 17, 2006, 10:58 PM
Go Leupold. Ranking of optics goes: Tasco, Bushnell, Simmons, Nikon, Redfield, Burris, Leupold, Swavrowski=Zeiss.

CB900F
February 18, 2006, 09:17 AM
Kennyboy;

Uh, you might want to do some research on the optics you've ranked. I don't believe that too many others are going to come up with the same list in the same order.

For instance, Meade owns Weaver Simmons & Redfield now that they bought those companies from Blount. Redfield is no longer American made & usually not nearly as highly thought of as they once were. Bushnell owns Tasco. However, the Bushnell Elite series does compare quite nicely to others far higher on your list, Burris for instance.

But, gee, you forgot Leapers:D !

900F

kennyboy
February 18, 2006, 10:10 AM
Kennyboy;

Uh, you might want to do some research on the optics you've ranked. I don't believe that too many others are going to come up with the same list in the same order.

For instance, Meade owns Weaver Simmons & Redfield now that they bought those companies from Blount. Redfield is no longer American made & usually not nearly as highly thought of as they once were. Bushnell owns Tasco. However, the Bushnell Elite series does compare quite nicely to others far higher on your list, Burris for instance.

But, gee, you forgot Leapers:D !

900F
Well, what are they going to do, put Tasco at the top and Zeiss and Swavrowski at the bottom? My list is just fine.

Legionnaire
February 18, 2006, 10:33 AM
Looks like kennyboy ranked from low to high rather than vice-versa. But I'd put Nikon higher on the list in terms of quality of the lenses. I'm generally a Leupold guy, but have one very nice Nikon and several Burris scopes as well. Leupold's always my point of reference ... but I'll buy a Nikon or a Burris if the deal is right.

CB900F
February 19, 2006, 10:54 AM
Fella's;

IMHO Kennyboy's list ranking from low to high has holes in it you could sail the USS Ronald Reagan through. Redfield's ranked higher than Nikon? Simmons ranked higher than the entire Bushnell line? I don't think so.

But, for entertainment value, it certainly should get the discussion going.

900F

kennyboy
February 19, 2006, 10:15 PM
Fella's;

IMHO Kennyboy's list ranking from low to high has holes in it you could sail the USS Ronald Reagan through. Redfield's ranked higher than Nikon? Simmons ranked higher than the entire Bushnell line? I don't think so.

But, for entertainment value, it certainly should get the discussion going.

900F
Hey, I'm sorry. I don't worry about buying those lesser brands. It's Leupold, Swavrowski, Zeiss, or nothing for me.

CB900F
February 19, 2006, 10:33 PM
Kennyboy;

Now didn't I see you post just the other day that a blind man could tell the difference between your Leupold & your Simmons?

900F

kennyboy
February 19, 2006, 10:53 PM
Kennyboy;

Now didn't I see you post just the other day that a blind man could tell the difference between your Leupold & your Simmons?

900F
I'm well aware of that. I had Simmons until I got a Leupold. Now I refuse to buy anything less than Leupold.

hksw
February 20, 2006, 12:56 PM
...Leupold, Swavrowski=Zeiss.

It's my understanding that Swarovski (and its sister company Kahles) are not associated with Zeiss in any manner. Each are quite adept in making their own glass.

kennyboy
February 20, 2006, 08:51 PM
It's my understanding that Swarovski (and its sister company Kahles) are not associated with Zeiss in any manner. Each are quite adept in making their own glass.
No, Swavrowski and Zeiss are not the same company. I was implying that their quality are near equals.

hksw
February 20, 2006, 10:36 PM
Oh, I see. You might want to check out Schmidt & Bender.

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