Good FAL types?


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Schleprok62
February 17, 2006, 10:45 AM
I am looking into an FAL or similar in .308 / 7.62 NATO. What are some good choices and sources to look for?

Thanks...

Tom

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Bwana John
February 17, 2006, 10:50 AM
Try the "FAL Files" website.

Mikee Loxxer
February 17, 2006, 10:50 AM
It is money well spent.

Kestrel
February 17, 2006, 11:16 AM
DSA. Very well done. Very reliable, well finished, superb components.

Chuck R.
February 17, 2006, 11:17 AM
IF you don’t want to mess around and you want an “off the shelf rifle” with a guarantee, then DSA is IMHO your best bet.

They have two basic types;

SA58s; brand new components all US made.
STG58s: Made from imported Surplus Steyr “kits”.

As far as I know, all other FALs are made from “kits” on either a US or imported IMBEL receiver. With a DSA STG, you get a very good to excellent kit from Austria, assembled on a DSA receiver (one of, if not the best available) by a company that knows how to build FALs and stands behind their products. SA58s have lightweight aluminum lowers and STGs have steel lowers. The difference is about 1LB when it’s all said and done.

As for FAL types, there are a lot of choices. I own a DSA SA58 that started out as a 19” barreled “Standard” rifle, which now has a DSA Para Lower, DSA Scope mount and a Trijicon Tri-Power.

Check out the FAL Files or AR-15.com (FAL Board), both have some good picture threads that will give you some ideas.

Good luck,

Chuck

Derby FALs
February 17, 2006, 11:31 AM
IF you don’t want to mess around and you want an “off the shelf rifle” with a guarantee, then DSA is IMHO your best bet.


I see a few DSA owners post about "issues" with their rifles but on the whole they seem to be pretty well made. I've had problems with some home builds but have the advantage of parts and tools for repair.

Merkin.Muffley
February 17, 2006, 11:35 AM
I have an old Belgium Herstal FAL - 50.63 (folding stock model). I think it was a little over $400 when I bought it new in the late 70's. I'd look for one of these, it's a very reliable rifle. Don't know what they cost, I haven't seen one in a gun store in years.

MAUSER88
February 17, 2006, 11:49 AM
DSA

http://www.huntingpictures.net/photo/002404 (http://www.huntingpictures.net/photoview/002404)

Derby FALs
February 17, 2006, 11:54 AM
http://www.derbyfals.com/shoot/images/P5160004.jpg

Derby FALs
February 17, 2006, 12:17 PM
I am looking into an FAL or similar in .308 / 7.62 NATO. What are some good choices and sources to look for?

Thanks...

Tom

Register with the FAL Files (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/register.php?s=&action=signup) and then go HERE (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=102) and introduce yourself.

1911Ron
February 17, 2006, 12:24 PM
I agree i like my DSA FAL but then i only have one tho:D

Coronach
February 17, 2006, 12:41 PM
The other nice thing about DSA is that if you have a problem with a DSA rifle (I did), they will absolutely stand by their guarantee and fix it for free (they did).

You literally cannot go wrong with those guys.

Mike

Schleprok62
February 17, 2006, 01:12 PM
Great information, thanks... I guess I need to start going to more gun shows... LOL... :o

Nightcrawler
February 17, 2006, 01:54 PM
DSA is a good place. Their customer service is absolutely top-notch, and their guns get rave reviews. I have an STG-58A and love it.

Generally, stay away from Century, Hesse, and Entreprise. Imbel-made guns are good, as are the older Springfield-imported SAR-series (made by Imbel). Of course, if you can find one, original Belgian guns are good too. But I prefer DSA. THey have forged receivers. Even FN went to casting their receivers in the 1970s. DSA makes the strongest FAL receiver out there, bar none.

Coronach
February 17, 2006, 02:37 PM
What makes things confusing is that otherwise-quality FALs are often assembled by drunk monkeys *cough*Century*cough*. It is possible to take a completely good parts kit, mate it improperly to an excellent IMBEL receiver and have it run like crap. Does this mean that parts kits are junk or that IMBEL receivers are no good? No, it means your plumber needs to be beaten with a tire iron.

FAL files can help you find a good smith, or walk you throught the process of building your own. If you go with a DSA or IMBEL receiver, you will absolutely have a good starting point.

Mike

Dave Markowitz
February 17, 2006, 02:38 PM
I have an old Belgium Herstal FAL - 50.63 (folding stock model). I think it was a little over $400 when I bought it new in the late 70's. I'd look for one of these, it's a very reliable rifle. Don't know what they cost, I haven't seen one in a gun store in years.

These rifles now go for $2500 or more.

Coronach
February 17, 2006, 02:38 PM
And stay away from anything Hesse or Vulcan Arms (the same people). They have the Anti-Midas touch (everything they touch turns to poop).

Mike

Derby FALs
February 17, 2006, 02:46 PM
DSA is a good place. Their customer service is absolutely top-notch, and their guns get rave reviews. I have an STG-58A and love it.

Generally, stay away from Century, Hesse, and Entreprise. Imbel-made guns are good, as are the older Springfield-imported SAR-series (made by Imbel). Of course, if you can find one, original Belgian guns are good too. But I prefer DSA. THey have forged receivers. Even FN went to casting their receivers in the 1970s. DSA makes the strongest FAL receiver out there, bar none.


My first FAL was a Century built on an early IMBEL. Great rifle. I swapped the piston for a one piece and eventually changed the fire group but that wasn't necessary.

Hesse rifles need more work but can usually be turned in to functioning rifles. Entreprise rifles are usually pretty good. New Century rifles are having feed issues that can be dealt with.

I have three DSA type I receivers on the way and that will likely be the end of my personal builds. I will still assist others in building theirs but inexpensive receivers have dried up.

hso
February 17, 2006, 02:57 PM
Coonan is another good choice.

Arizona Response Systems builds a good FAL. http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com

There's a group of us that have FALs built by Dan at Volunteer Ordnance Works. http://www.volunteerordnanceworks.com/
Dan has back problems and has a storefront so getting things from him can be slow, but I remind myself that you can have it cheap or quick or good, but good guns cheap never come quick.

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