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tegemu
February 18, 2006, 12:41 AM
Can any of you recommend a good gun safe for about10 long guns and with good shelf space, for a Grand or less?

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have2rotties
February 18, 2006, 03:09 AM
Can any of you recommend a good gun safe for about10 long guns and with good shelf space, for a Grand or less?

I picked this one up about a 2 years ago. They sell them at Wal-mart & Sam's club and elsewhere. Pretty nice safe for the money. I bought the electronic lock model and paid around $598.00 for it at wally world. It's big, heavy, and fire rated. Check them out. May be what your looking for.

-J-
http://www.granitesafe.com/winchester.html

http://www.granitesafe.com/grnite_images/winchester_black.jpg

Nematocyst
February 18, 2006, 03:59 AM
Tegemu, the search function will help you a lot here.

Do a search on THR for "gun safe". There have been several of these of late that have been VERY informative.

I too have been looking into a gun safe, but after reading several threads by knowledgeable folks, including at least two professional safe dealers, my thinking about what to buy (and how soon I can do it) has changed substantially.

Be sure to pay attention to the details of what makes a "safe" a safe, and not just a home security cabinet. It's a fine line that's also a gray area.

Best of luck.

Nem

MNgoldenbear
February 18, 2006, 09:02 AM
+1 on "safe" safes.
Depends a lot on the conditions where you are. In CA, I had a nice Liberty that ran about 800 lbs. empty (well over 1000 with what I had in it) installed in the bedroom (big bedroom) with bolts shot into the cement foundation to anchor it. Out here, I just basically have a security cabinet. It would be nice to have a fire-rated set-up in case of such, but this has to serve the purpose for now. Out here, most firearms are kept in glass and wood cases, often ones that the owner or a family member (child, grandparent, etc.) made in shop class. Real safes are fairly rare here.

Make sure the one you get does exactly what you want. Depends on where you live, where you put the safe, who has access to the area, security goals, etc.

Highland Ranger
February 18, 2006, 01:34 PM
Also look up "residential security container" or RSC.

Cutting to the punch line, many safe's . . . well aren't.

You can spend a $1000 for a safe and a kid with a hammer and a screwdriver can have it open in ten minutes. Not much more deterent that a locked metal cabinet.

So unless you are buying it as furniture, you need to look at the bang for the buck factor.

Nematocyst
February 18, 2006, 05:06 PM
Also look up "residential security container" or RSC. That's one of the terms/acronyms I was searching my memory for last night, but couldn't remember it.

Thanks, HR. ;)

I think there may be other similar terms suggesting or implying "safe", but are just "this side" of safe. :scrutiny:

My take is, less than a "safe" may (or may not) have it's place, but purchasers should at least be aware of what it will do, what it won't do, etc.

Nem

Highland Ranger
February 18, 2006, 07:42 PM
Guy on rimfire central posted a pic of what some kids did to a $1000 "safe" with a hammer and screwdriver.

Don't remember the whole story but bottom line: because the side walls of the safe were far thinner than the door in terms of gauge of sheet metal, these guys just peeled the damn thing.

Like everything else, need to look at the specs and understand what they mean and how it impacts your intended use.

What good is 12 hardened steel bars and a pick-proof lock if you make the sides of the safe out of what is essentially paper mache to hand tools . . . . . . . . better off buying a locking stationary supply or tool cabinet and using concealment/misdirection to protect the guns.

Or even better, if they aren't family heirlooms, leave them out where you can enjoy them. Get a glass display case, some cable locks and some insurance.

GunFixer
April 25, 2006, 03:50 PM
I have 2 Zanott Armor Safes. They are awesome. They actually come apart and you can move all the pieces by yourself with the exception of the door. That part is pretty heavy. Check them out at http://www.zanottiarmor.com

mmike87
April 25, 2006, 07:02 PM
10,000 pound titanium and reinforced concrete safes are not practical for everyone. Buy what you can afford - anything is better than nothing. Most importantly, make sure your guns are insured. And, buy bigger than you need, especially if you opt for a larger, more expensive safe. You WILL run out of room.

I have a Liberty safe, and I understand it's limitations. However, I have not the room for something huge, and having something too heavy is a concern also, since this is not my last house.

If someone really wants your stuff, they are going to take it.

tegemu
April 26, 2006, 04:46 PM
I ultimately got a good deal on a Liberty Safe. Thanx guys.

a1abdj
April 26, 2006, 08:19 PM
I deal with Liberty products on a regular basis.

I will say from experience, that they do a better job of marketing, than they do of building a safe.

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