'03 Springfield


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M.E.Eldridge
February 18, 2006, 07:46 PM
Does any have sone good sources of info for the Springfield 1903 rifle, other than what is given on the surplusrifle site. I am interested in getting one of these after handling one today at a gunstore while looking around for 1917 Enfield rifles.

I was looking around at Numrich gun parts a little bit ago and found a take down tool for the rifle. Does the takedown tool fit in the buttrap along with the oiler and pull through? If not were would it be stored while in the field? Or where they even issued?

Slings and bayonets are another point of interest for my and I was wondering where info on them could be found.

Also, many folks claim that the recoil on the '03s is quite stiff, so I was wondering what those of you who have shot one think about it.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

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Roadkill
February 18, 2006, 09:49 PM
http://www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=500/28079DSCF0004-med.JPG



I found the 03 in a pawnshop, the two 03A3s I got at gunshows and restored them. The pull through cord was wrapped around the take down tool and stored in the buttstock but there are variations without the storage compartment. In that case the soldier just kept it wherever it was handy. You don't need the tool to field strip the gun. Most all that was done was disassemble and wipe down bolt, no tools required, and the clean out the bore. The bayonet can cost nearly as much as the guns. Ebay is a good source, again pawnshops and gunshows are worth checking out. Recoil is not bad but is substantial. I've fired up to thirty or forty rounds at a time with no problem, I'm 5'10", 180. The sights for me are better on the 03A3s.

Here's another photo of one of the 03A3s:

http://www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=500/2807903A3-med.JPG

rk

cracked butt
February 18, 2006, 10:08 PM
Also, many folks claim that the recoil on the '03s is quite stiff, so I was wondering what those of you who have shot one think about it.


Yes. That might have something to do with the dimensions of the stock, though what dimension I do not know. The length of pull, buttplate angle, and drop at the comb are similar to any mauser rifle. part of the recoil factor might be that people like me who have/ or do shoot them in high power matches shoot 50 rounds at a time, where as most other bolt 30-06's might have a dozen or less rounds fired through them in a session. The amount of bruising on the shoulder received in a shooting session is cumulative, the last round fired will have more felt recoil than the first one, and a person will be biased by what the last round felt like when describing recoil.

If you want one, by all means get one, they are accurate rifles and are very well made.

Takedown tool- not sure if one of these is really needed, I've never needed one.

Bayonets- the bayonets for a 1903/03A3 are way out of my league for price. I could buy another couple of cheap rifles for the cost of something I'll never use.LOL.

George S.
February 18, 2006, 10:11 PM
There is lots of good information over on the American Backyard Forum (the old BattleRifles forum) www.ambackforum.com There is a section called "BattleRifles" and in there is the "Bolt Action" section. Lots of very knowledgable folks there especially "Rick The Librarian".

My 1903A3 doesn't have anywhere near the recoil kick of my Mosin-Nagant 91/30 or M38 in 7.62x54R. It probably doesn't kick any more than a bolt action rifle like the Remington 700 or Win Mod 70 in .30-06. I shoot military ball ammo exclusively in my rifle so I really don't know how it would feel with hunting loads.

As mentioned, bayonets can get expensive especially the 16" versions (hundreds of $$!). I paid $65 for a very-good condition 10" cut-down American Fork and Hoe bayonet that was originally dated 1918.

There are some companies making excellent reproduction leather slings for reasonable costs ($50 or so). Some '03A3's were issued with the typical green web slings. It depends on when the rifle was issued to troops. Many Marine units still used the 03 in the early days of WWII in the Pacific.


The CMP still has some '03 Springfields available and would probably be cheaper than gun shops www.odcmp.com

alamo
February 18, 2006, 10:12 PM
This is a useful link. Don't know about take-down tools. I totally disassembled my 1903A3 I got from the CMP not long ago and did not need a specialized tool.

http://home.att.net/~vishooter/m1903.html

Firehand
February 18, 2006, 10:14 PM
Some information here: http://home.att.net/~vishooter/m1903.html

And if this is the book I think it is(haven't seen it in a while) it covers the development, manufacture, tools, etc: http://product.half.ebay.com/The-Springfield-1903-Rifles_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ524921

This place, among others, has parts and accessories: http://northridgeinc.com/springfield.htm

Recoil can be stiff, depending on stock shape; do keep it tucked solidly into the shoulder and it's not bad, though.

George S.
February 18, 2006, 10:20 PM
You might also check out www.m1903.com

M.E.Eldridge
February 19, 2006, 11:43 AM
Sounds good guys,thanks. About the takedown tool and other accessories; even if I don't need them I would still like to have them. Just like I bought the buttstock cleaning kit for my Enfield but will probably never use. I just like collecting all the stuff that goes with a particular rifle.

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