M1 Carbine receivers from CMP


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Flyboy73
February 19, 2006, 04:17 AM
I see that the CMP is selling M1 Carbine receivers, ranging from $ 150-300.

My question is what can you do with just a receicver?

Buy the rest of parts and assemble a whole carbine. Or do people just collect receicver's.

I wouldn;t mind a Saginaw Stearing Gear Carbine, since i am from the Saginaw Area.


Brion

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Byron Quick
February 19, 2006, 04:24 AM
I'm quite sure there are receiver collectors out there somewhere. However, most people will build complete guns with them.

Draven32
February 19, 2006, 04:35 AM
you could build a WW2 or korean war era carbine for less than what they sell for

Trebor
February 19, 2006, 06:10 AM
Ehh, I can't get excited about this. Carbine parts and parts kits are scarce. If there was a flood of cheap parts kits, it would be worth buying for a build, but as it is, I think your better off holding onto your cash and putting it towards the purchase price of a GI gun.

Carbine prices have gone up, but there are still deals to be found. You just have to keep hunting and not have a particular timeline. The last two Carbines I bought were $300 each. Granted, most are in the $400 and up range, but make the circuit of the local shops and shows and see what you can find.

Draven32
February 19, 2006, 08:34 AM
Most GI carbines are $550+

parts can be found at gun shows.

johnmcl
February 19, 2006, 10:02 AM
Hi all,

First let me comment on the gun show price of M1 Carbines in the DC Metro area. I'm in the market for a carbine and have surveyed the last couple of guns snows in Chantilly, VA. The cost for 'mature' M1 Carbines started at $700 and accelerated quickly.

Secondly, this deal from CMP does not throw my switch. Numrich has an Iverson Johnson receiver for $100. A new barrel goes for the same price. I'm considering a build project and investing in those two parts to start. Please note that an FFL is required for these parts.

Even with all this, I'm very glad CMP is around. Buy your Garand soon. The days of quality M1's are almost behind us.

John

George S.
February 19, 2006, 10:44 AM
I've heard that most of these have barrels that are pretty well shot out and some of the receivers are pitted and rusty. I don't think you get a bolt with them.

For the money it would take to find the rest of the parts, you could buy a shooter USGI Carbine for less money.

Draven32
February 19, 2006, 11:40 AM
As opposed to $50 for a Plainfield reciever from the CMP? (at least some of Iver Johnson's M1 Carbine tooling belonged to Plainfield)

Also note that getting an M1 Carbine reciever from the CMP doesn't require an FFL- its under the same rules as if you are buying a rifle from them.

ReadyontheRight
February 19, 2006, 05:11 PM
The $50 Plainfield and Universal receivers are tempting. It says they are non-military. Does anyone know if they are any different than the military receivers?

Draven32
February 19, 2006, 11:10 PM
Plainfield recievers are configured the same as USGI. Unioversal recievers may or may not be configured the same- but the only difference is how the bolt hold open functions. (one Universal reciever has a standard detent, another has no bolt hold open, the third has a little toggle-based BHO)

Jim Watson
February 19, 2006, 11:24 PM
Well, I know of one USGI carbine with a cracked reciever. A Winchester, I think. If I can get in touch with the owner, he might be willing to pay $175 for a replacement receiver to transplant his good parts to.

Trebor
February 19, 2006, 11:27 PM
DON'T buy a Universal receiver. They are not 100% compatible with GI parts.

Planfield is generally considered to be the best of the commercial guns. The receiver should work with GI parts.

The question is, where would you get the parts?

Draven32
February 19, 2006, 11:29 PM
Trebor, I disagree. SOME Universal recievers are fully USGI-compatible- it depends how many GI parts that Universal had access to when the reciever was made.

Parts? Gun Show.

Flyboy73
February 20, 2006, 02:19 AM
Ya i was wondering too, how would go about getting all the parts you need to build a compelte
carbine.

Brion

Draven32
February 20, 2006, 02:24 AM
1. Online purchasing
2. Gun shows. (even here in CA there are dealers who sell everything else you need to build a Carbine at shows...)

Trebor
February 20, 2006, 10:43 PM
Trebor, I disagree. SOME Universal recievers are fully USGI-compatible- it depends how many GI parts that Universal had access to when the reciever was made.

Parts? Gun Show.


That is true on the Universal receivers. The thing is, if you buy a Universal receiver from the CMP, how do you tell if it takes GI parts or not? The CMP won't hand pick one for you and you'll get what you get.

Also, when your talking about buying parts for a build, don't forget that you'll need some fixtures to build the rifles. I believe a barrel vise, at the minimum, is required. You have to include the cost of that in the total cost of the rifle. If you only build one gun, suddenly that "cheap build" get's more and more expensive.

Flyboy73
February 20, 2006, 11:22 PM
I have a Underwood M1 carbine. But was thinking of getting a Saginaw S.G. M1. I know these are a little more rare. Thought this might a good way.

Brion

Draven32
February 20, 2006, 11:50 PM
That is true on the Universal receivers. The thing is, if you buy a Universal receiver from the CMP, how do you tell if it takes GI parts or not? The CMP won't hand pick one for you and you'll get what you get.

Also, when your talking about buying parts for a build, don't forget that you'll need some fixtures to build the rifles. I believe a barrel vise, at the minimum, is required. You have to include the cost of that in the total cost of the rifle. If you only build one gun, suddenly that "cheap build" get's more and more expensive.

I'd have to see the reciever to tell... if I could go to the store, I'd buy one. (I have a Universal Carbine, a spare reciever wouldn't be bad.

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