Saiga, part II


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pmbiker
February 19, 2006, 08:32 AM
I converted and too quickly sold off a saiga .308 a couple of years ago. It was a great shooting rifle, 2moa with SA surplus and iron sights was the norm.

Well it seems a friend from work doesn't keep up in gun circles and had no idea of the current saiga situation and what their prices have been doing. I gave him $250 for a like new 16" saiga .308, 1 mag and @200 rounds of SA and Aussie ammo.

I've already gutted it, imagine I'll warm up the dremmel this afternoon and do the deed. This one has the pg nut cutout done, last one didn't. I'm still hung up on the furniture though.

I'm wondering if the ACE folder would stay together behind the .308? If you haven't shot one, the felt recoil on the .308 makes the 7.62x39 feel like a little pussycat. That route would drive up the $$ factor but would be a nice package. I've also seen that Global Trades has made a new thumbhole-type buttstock with a real nice price and I could keep the cost down with no US parts count issues to worry about. So it seems like my options are a)big $$ with lots of evilness or b)less evil and far less expensive but more money for mags and ammo. I'm leaning toward B first and A down the road.

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jagdpanzer347
February 19, 2006, 10:44 AM
Is that the Bulgarian-designed stock you're looking at? I was thinking about picking one up for my MAK90. Price can't be beat, I just wonder about it's durability.
As far as A or B, ammo dude, think ammo.
-jagdpanzer

SpookyPistolero
February 19, 2006, 11:26 AM
I've got a saiga .308, but it's not converted. It's a hoot at the range though, when you're meeting the groups of guys with bolt guns.

Anywho, I know that Tromix uses the ACE folders on ihs .308 conversions, and I don't think they'd waste their time with something that didn't stand up to the beating.

Correia
February 19, 2006, 12:42 PM
Tony at Tromix also uses the Ace folders on his 8 inch 12 gauge guns also. :) They hold up just fine.

azrael
February 19, 2006, 01:25 PM
Tromix=sweet stuff..GRRR I hate being poor!!!!


Any word on these being available again?? I would really like to get one of the 12's and a 308

pmbiker
February 19, 2006, 02:21 PM
It's good to hear that the ace folder will hold together. Still think I'll start with the $25 PG stock and $13 FCG from Global and save my cash for ammo. Same guy I bought the gun from passes Aim surplus on the way in to work.:cool:

The bottom plate has been removed and the trigger guard work done, it just needs mounted. This time I left the rivets that hold the bottom plate intact and ground them smooth along with the two spot welds, it looks super clean.

wally
February 19, 2006, 04:22 PM
Anyone got a source for Saiga .308 mags? Prefer 20 rounds.

--wally.

beerslurpy
February 19, 2006, 04:31 PM
12 gauge kicks harder than 308 and my saiga-12 has held up fine.

Correia
February 19, 2006, 04:56 PM
Azreal, they are back in the country. Russian American Armory is is the new importer. I'm one of their distributors. www.fbmginc.com We received our first shipment about 2 weeks ago. I have a few of various different ones left, and will be getting another shipment in March.

There currently are no 20 round .308 mags, unless you convert something else to work in it. I've sold all the extra .308 mags I had, but I have more on order.

Slimjim
February 19, 2006, 05:10 PM
Do the 7.62x39 saiga's take the AK mags?, The new imported batch of them. Im thinking of picking one up to convert to AK specs. And its the easiest way to get a REAL russian AK(ish) rifle right now.

PAC 762
February 19, 2006, 05:18 PM
Do the 7.62x39 saiga's take the AK mags?, ....
No. That's part of the converting process.

Correia
February 20, 2006, 11:35 AM
Slimjim, you need to add a feedramp to the Saiga. The Saiga mags have a lip on the front of the mag that serves this purpose. Tromix is doing our conversions for us, and that is the format that he is using.

pmbiker
April 1, 2006, 10:44 AM
Well, I struck a nice middle ground with my new saiga. I went with the Tapco G2 FCG, SAW PG, and Kvar nato length stock. I'd post pics, but it looks just like you'd expect. My first outing and it shot just as good as the last one. I usually take plastic milk and OJ jugs to the range and just bang away. I literally couldn't miss the jugs at 100yds offhand with the iron sights and surplus ammo. Works for me.

Now thanks to my employment situation (Delphi) I'll likely be selling off most of my collection soon.:banghead:

Pilgrim
April 1, 2006, 03:39 PM
Well it seems a friend from work doesn't keep up in gun circles and had no idea of the current saiga situation and what their prices have been doing. I gave him $250 for a like new 16" saiga .308, 1 mag and @200 rounds of SA and Aussie ammo.
Do you think he will still be a friend when he finds out what they are worth?

Pilgrim

rangerruck
April 2, 2006, 06:11 AM
you can take the e. german steel mags, with the skinny rib down the back. lower both sides of the very front feed ramps. grind down the back hump until it is almost flat, above the tab. bend up the front of the follower feed ramp, or put a tiny screwdown through the top of the front catch right in the very front of the mag. waa laaa! you are done. 5 min with a dremel.

pmbiker
April 2, 2006, 09:39 AM
Yea, not much chance of that happening. Plus he really didn't like the gun to begin with. He's been selling stuff off to furnish his basement game room. It's a win/win situation.

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