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ezypikns
February 20, 2006, 01:04 AM
Do I need a signed copy of someones FFL license? What's the general procedure?

Flatfender
February 20, 2006, 01:29 AM
IANAL

To someone in your own state or out of state?

Federal regulations allow you to:

In state you can ship it directly to them (not by US Postal Service) as long as you don't suspect the buyer is not allowed to have guns. Felons, Children, ect. I prefer a face to face.

Out of state, it has to go to a FFL licenced dealer in the buyers state. You need a copy of that FFLs licence sent to you and you ship the gun to that FFL dealer. They do a NCIC on the buyer and the buyer pays a transfer fee to that dealer.
Some recieving dealers make you ship it from your FFL dealer to cover their butt. Not required.

There may be other laws in your state that you may have to follow instead.

P95Carry
February 20, 2006, 01:32 AM
Much depends on state laws - whereby in state you may be able to sell face to face with no paperwork. Check on this.

If to out of state then a handgun should go ffl to ffl - your own to the buyer's. If a longarm then you should get a copy (signed) from FFL to whom you are shipping, where the buyer will collect.

BATF these days apparently allows signed FFL's to be faxed, as being adeqate.

AFAIK this is pretty much the current state of play - but am happy to be corrected by others if in error.

damascusblade5
February 21, 2006, 12:32 AM
Handguns shipped by a non dealer to a dealer must be shipped overnight.The USPS won't ship handguns from an individual,only a licensed dealer.I have bought five from individuals on the internet,all shipped overnight by UPS and never had a problem.

Jim Keenan
February 24, 2006, 04:10 PM
For shipping a handgun, there is no legal requirement for shipping FROM an FFL dealer, but a shipment across state lines can only be TO an FFL licensee (dealer or, if applicable, a C&R licensee). If the shipper is not an FFL DEALER, the shipment cannot be by mail, only by common carrier (UPS, FedEx, etc.).

In general, I have found it best to have an FFL dealer do the shipping because he can use USPS which is cheaper. I box up the gun with a copy of his FFL and give him the copy of the recipient's FFL, so all he has to do is give the box to the mail carrier. I pay him a fee which I have built into the price I asked at the beginning. Any charge the receiving dealer makes for his services is between him and the buyer.

Jim

freewookie
March 6, 2006, 11:29 PM
This thread is a couple weeks old but this link would have saved me a few hours of searching so I thought I'd pass it along.

http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/2005/p53004/q_and_a.pdf

Hkmp5sd
March 7, 2006, 08:40 PM
Do I need a signed copy of someones FFL license?

Non-licensees are not required to maintain transfer records under the federal GCA. That means that you are not required to obtain a signed FFL from a dealer before shipping a firearm to them. Many people want one just as a CYA method, but it is not required.

wdlsguy
March 7, 2006, 11:21 PM
You can verify an FFL at https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck.