s&w model 13
poilu
February 20, 2006, 09:26 AM
i was recently given a box of remington 125gr sjhps. so far, i've just been using +p .38s as the m13 is nearly mint and don't i want to shake this little k frame loose. can she tolerate a box or so of hot 125grs without ill effects? thanks
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thatguy
February 20, 2006, 11:13 AM
If it concerns you why do it?
I shoot nothing but hot 125 Magnum loads in my 13 but then it doesn't concern me.
W Turner
February 20, 2006, 04:47 PM
One box of 125gr. .357 JHP loads shouldn't shake your K frame loose. It was only repeated firing of hundreds of hot 125gr. loads that loosened the k-frames way back when.
Shoot that box then go back to the "original" standard 158gr. loading.
W
medmo
February 21, 2006, 02:54 AM
I have an M13 and owned if for years. It's a blue 3" bbl gun and I can't remember how many rounds that me and the kids have run through it. I ran countless round through it before kids. Shoot is loose? I don't think you have any worries. I used to hand load some wicked 125gr rounds and ran quite a few throuigh, (21.5 grains of unmentionable powder), this gun without a problem. Shoot it. Enjoy it.
Martini13
February 21, 2006, 05:33 PM
:) No problem, go for it. It will take hundreds of magnum rounds before any effects.:evil: Common Sense, the rarest of all senses
nitesite
February 21, 2006, 05:46 PM
Ahhh, yes. The R357M1 cartridge. The "Lightning Bolt" round. What a great load. After all these years it still hasn't been watered down like so many have been. 1450-fps from a 4" barrel. Still the A#1 best self defense .357 Magnum load on the market. I absolutely love it. (Except indoors without hearing protection.:what: )
Your Model 13 will be fine after firing a box of them. I'm sure of it. I shot hundreds and hundreds of them, plus lots of pretty stout reloads thru my Model 19 when I was a young deputy.
JERRY
February 23, 2006, 10:10 PM
ive shot a few .357's through my 13-3 without any ill effects.
though it looked as though only .38's had been through (by the charge holes witness marks) it prior to me getting it.
i shoot 38+p in it mostly, and a cylinder or two of .357s once in a while.....
bakert
February 24, 2006, 03:49 AM
Although some K frames had problems after a steady diet of the 125 JHPs, they're more sturdy than some would have you believe. I normally shoot reduced loads in my model 66 but It's also had quite a few full power loads through it including the hot 125grs. A box or so every now and then shouldn't cause any problems.
JERRY
February 24, 2006, 04:32 PM
as most will know, the cut away reliefe in the K frames forcing cone is the reason why most develope cracks......
this is why a smaller ruger sp101 will out last a larger S&W K frame .357......
other than the thinly machined forcing cone, the K frame isnt all that bad of a design.
Dienekes
February 24, 2006, 08:24 PM
We used to burn that stuff up by the case for qualifications. Probably rougher on the shooter than the gun so it is somewhat self-limiting. I did have to rebarrel two Security Sixes for throat erosion, but that was because I was the instructor and shooting a LOT.
The K frame guns stood up ok.
I still carry that load for CCW in preference to anything else out there.
JMusic
February 26, 2006, 06:25 PM
Shoot it, chances are you will wear your wrist out before the gun. The K frame Smiths got a bad wrap when the .357 was in its hey-day. This was do to some departments practicing with full power rounds and passing them from one officer to another. They really don't shake loose you can crack the forcing cone which for the most part don't hurt the gun and you can cut the top strap above the forcing cone. Todays ammo is much better for this type of shooting than the stuff of 30-40- years ago. Some of that stuff was well, awful to shoot alot of.
Jim
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