WOO HOO! I just got my new Biathlon Basic today!


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flip180
February 22, 2006, 10:00 PM
I got it home, cleaned it and mounted my scope. I put on a Weaver classic rimfire 3-9X32 AO scope with 1 inch millet extended rings. This thing is the neatest thing since sliced bread. I shoulders well and is well balanced with the scope on it. I'm glad I got the extended rings because, I like the scope as forward as I can get it. The trigger is the best in my safe to include my .223 VLS. The barrel looks like it is floated pretty good. I'll take a closer look at it tonight. I can't believe this thing cost me 300.00 NIB delivered off of www.gunbroker.com. BTW, the vender has another one listed for 250.00+20.00 s&h. Just do a search for it there. You'll find it. Anyway, here are a couple of pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/flip180/1894C004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/flip180/1894C005.jpg

Flip.:)

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Rupestris
February 22, 2006, 10:10 PM
:banghead: I want a lefty version!!!

Beautiful rifle BTW. Keep us posted.

Harry Tuttle
February 22, 2006, 11:48 PM
its a really nice rifle
mines a favorite too

some day i hope to get it a set of SV-99 furniture

did your rings mount up well to the rail?
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5477&d=1061308612

flip180
February 22, 2006, 11:52 PM
They mounted up perfectly. It couldn't have gone better. I had the scope and rings at the house before the rifle even arrived. I guess I took a chance. I want to get it out Monday to get it sighted in and try for some groups with different ammo along with obtaining velocities.

Flip.:D

countertop
February 23, 2006, 12:22 AM
I didn't think you could use a scope in a biathlon.

Real pretty rifle, none the less. Can't wait to see the range report.

flip180
February 23, 2006, 12:27 AM
The reason it's called a biathlon basic is that the action is a toggle bolt similar to the rifles used in the olympics. It's actually marketed and a small game hunting rifle as described in my paperwork.

Flip.

jrobb45
February 23, 2006, 09:40 AM
Really neat rifle. I'd be interested in how it shoots at 50 yds.

jrobb

middy
February 23, 2006, 10:24 AM
What's a "toggle bolt" action? Is it like a straight-pull action like those Swiss milsurp rifles?

Master Blaster
February 23, 2006, 11:13 AM
What's a "toggle bolt" action? Is it like a straight-pull action like those Swiss milsurp rifles?


NO bolt action rifles use a striker (big firing pin with a spring that is cocked by caming action of the bolt assembly.

The Biathalon basic is a fortner action.

Tha means that the bolt only holds the firing pin and the rear of the bolt cocks a hammer, just like in a semi auto, but instead of recoil moving the bolt rearward the toggle handle is used to extract, eject, cock the hammer, and chamber another round.

The reason for this is all of the wetness ice and snow, and the possibility of the rifle being soaked and frozen in a biathalon. You see striker fired bolt actions have been known to freeze in the aformentioned conditions, and be unable to fire rounds. So the hammer fired action is more reliable.

I have one of these rifles bought a couple of years ago and I have put alot of rounds through it. It likes high velocity ammo much better than it likes the target stuff. Federal bulk pack copper plated ammo has produced .17-.30" groups at 50 yards out of mine.

Michael Courtney
February 23, 2006, 11:23 AM
Nice rifle. I have one just like it. Yesterday afternoon, my 6 year old son used it to hit a small spinner target 10 times in a row at 65 yards. I've shot several NRA smallbore target scores of 199/200 with it at 50 yards. In addition to being an accurate rifle, it just feels and handles and shoulders and looks the part of a very nice rifle for the money.

Mine really likes the Federal American Eagle 38 grain hollowpoint load. I tried the rifle with this load when I forst brought it home, and it shoots so well, I never even bothered to try it with match ammo.

I think you will enjoy that rifle for years and also have a nice heirloom to pass along to future generations.

Michael Courtney

Gewehr98
February 23, 2006, 12:49 PM
Feed it properly, and it will serve you well...

http://mauser98.com/biathlonbasicscoped.jpg

w/barrel tuner:

http://mauser98.com/biathlontitusville.jpg

Shooting Wolf Extra at 50 yards off the bags:

http://mauser98.com/wolfextrawind.jpg

Harry Tuttle
February 23, 2006, 03:17 PM
it certainly is a unique action:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=435227
IMHO, the scope rail is not far enough forward for an American Scope

i like my scopes to stop closer to the wrist

Mine is going to get offset rings this spring
http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/applications/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=538245

The russians seem to set them up far back too:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/docZox//sv99-l.jpg

dm1333
February 23, 2006, 04:49 PM
I like it because with a small extension on the toggle it seem like it would be easy to reach under the rifle with your left hand and work the action. If there was a centerfire version I would definately look at one.

jrobb45
February 23, 2006, 09:55 PM
I've been looking at these rifles for some time and would like to handle one. Also, take a look at the wood because I'm somewhat of a wood freak.

jrobb

flip180
February 23, 2006, 10:01 PM
The wood was better than I thought it would be. The butstock has almost a marble type grain to it.

Flip

Michael Courtney
February 24, 2006, 08:55 AM
I've been looking at these rifles for some time and would like to handle one. Also, take a look at the wood because I'm somewhat of a wood freak.

jrobb

If you're in northeast Ohio, you're welcome to stop by and look at mine, but I think you'll have a hard time finding one in a gun shop. Biathalon's are special order items in most shops and I've never seen one on the shelf.

The wood is the nicest I've ever seen on a rifle under $300.

Michael Courtney

Rack Grade
February 24, 2006, 11:35 AM
Are these sufficiently small that a juniors club could use them?

Drakejake
February 24, 2006, 01:18 PM
Detachable mag? How many rounds in the mag?

Drakejake

Michael Courtney
February 24, 2006, 09:47 PM
Mine came with 2 detachable magazines, one holds 5 rounds, the other holds 10.

Size is borderline for junior use. 12+ no problem. < 12, stock may need to be shortened. I originally bought mine for my kids, but I just cannot bring myself to cut that beautiful stock. They do OK with it though.

Michael Courtney

Harry Tuttle
February 25, 2006, 12:42 AM
seen this?
http://www.raacfirearms.com/images/p_sobol.jpg
http://www.raacfirearms.com/Sobol.htm


FBMG is a distributor...

Slimjim
February 25, 2006, 12:44 AM
How much does the advanced biathlon run? I cant remember the model number of it, but its the one with the stock with the shell holders in the back.

Harry Tuttle
February 25, 2006, 04:47 PM
http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/bi7-2.shtml
http://www.izhmash.ru/pix/bi7-2.jpg
i don't think this model is imported to the US

Red Tornado
July 21, 2006, 05:51 PM
Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but at least it's this year! :D

I'm looking at one of these beauties, and had some questions.
Flip180,
What kind of rings did you get? Will any extended rings work okay? I noticed you had this for sale briefly and thought better of it. Still keeping it?

Gewehr98,
Niiiiice grouping! How much difference did the barrel tuner make? And as usual, when I start drooling over a rifle picture, you usually posted it. (BTW, please feel free to post more pics of your 03A4 sniper anytime. I have to do a search to see that every once in a while. Seriously gorgeous. If it wasn't for my daughter, your rifle would probably be my desktop. ;) )

Any other advice or opinions will be appreciated.
Thanks,
RT

flip180
July 21, 2006, 06:04 PM
I had two .22's and, I stopped shooting the other one since buying the BB That was the one I ended up selling. It had it beat in the nice things we want out of a highly accurate/budget .22 and it would be insane if I let the BB go. If I remember right I'm using these rings http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=142687 along with a weaver scope. I pulled off a 0.47 inch group using mini mags with a decent cross wind. I'd get it if I were you as long as the price is under 350.00 new.

Good luck, Flip.

Gewehr98
July 22, 2006, 01:22 AM
What we were trying to do was tighten the groups of cheaper, non-target grade ammo (think WalMart cartons of Winchester/Remington/American Eagle, etc) with the barrel tuner. We made minor adjustments each time until the group size was dialed in, of course documenting the settings. That way, we could pre-set the tuner based on the ammo we planned on using. It worked pretty well, all things considered.

Sad thing is, that rifle, and almost all of my other ones, hasn't seen daylight in over a year. The ranges in Spacecoast Florida were devastated by the hurricanes of 2004 and 2005, and I recently retired and moved to Wisconsin. In a few weeks when we're finally settled, I plan on making visits to a well-known outdoor range at Lodi. It'll be nice to get trigger time again. ;)

Red Tornado
July 24, 2006, 02:01 PM
Thanks guys. I called and they still have it for $320, so I'm pretty hot for that. Unfortunately I don't have the money yet, but where it's located, it's probably not going anywhere for several months. I've never put anything on layaway, but I may do that just to make sure it doesn't leave.

Thanks for the info Gewehr, but I guess I need to get one and test it to see if I can even shoot groups as small as it's capable of. I'm not sure I'm able to shoot < 1/2". But if that's where it bottoms out, a tuner looks like the way to go.
RT

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