Other Semi-Auto Rifles You Would Like to See


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Number 6
February 23, 2006, 10:31 PM
With the Sig 556(550), Steyr Aug, FN F2000, SCAR, and XCR all coming out eventually, what other military style semi-autos would you like to see made available to civilian sale?

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MachIVshooter
February 23, 2006, 10:37 PM
Something resembling either an MP5 or Cx4 Storm chambered in 7.62x25.

That, and a .338 Ultra Mag version of the AR-10(T).:evil:
(yes,yes, I know it would need a completely different reciever so spare me the "it isn't possible" replies)

hkmp5g17
February 23, 2006, 10:39 PM
The HK and IMI offerings would be nice- maybe a semi Bizon smg, an original style 550, an an-94, who's next?

kentucky_smith
February 23, 2006, 10:39 PM
More Garands. Cheap.

Slimjim
February 23, 2006, 11:09 PM
A semi auto FNC.

thereisnospoon
February 23, 2006, 11:14 PM
7.62X25 Semi-auto +1

7.62X51 Bullpup rifle similar to Bushmaster M17S:neener:

Dionysusigma
February 23, 2006, 11:17 PM
Something affordable, decently reliable, strong, appealing to the eye, and chambered in 9mm or 7.62x25.

phoglund
February 23, 2006, 11:44 PM
Something affordable, decently reliable, strong, appealing to the eye, and chambered in 9mm or 7.62x25.

+1

Otony
February 23, 2006, 11:47 PM
A 3/4 scale Browning BAR (the sporting rifle) in .223 would be a very cool rifle in my opinion, especially if it accepted AR magazines.

There could be two versions. One finished with the usual Browning bright polish bling, and a second in oiled walnut and parkerized steel ala the "real" BAR!

Either one would sell like hotcakes here in ************.

grimjaw
February 23, 2006, 11:58 PM
Something affordable, decently reliable, strong, appealing to the eye, and chambered in 9mm or 7.62x25.

+2, and maybe add .45 ACP to that list. Ruger managed 'reliable' and 'strong' with the PC9, but not necessarily appealing or inexpensive.

jmm

MatthewVanitas
February 24, 2006, 12:38 AM
FAMAS 5.56mm bullpup rifle:

http://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/famas_01.jpg

Mossyrock
February 24, 2006, 12:21 PM
A factory Mini-14 with a heavy, match-grade barrel that will consistently shoot MOA.

Dave Markowitz
February 24, 2006, 01:24 PM
I'd like a Ruger PC45 -- one of their semiauto pistol caliber carbines in .45 ACP using P-90 magazines. Or better yet, Grease Gun mags. :evil: It would be a like modernized, ruggedized Marlin Camp .45.

KaceCoyote
February 24, 2006, 01:40 PM
Bizon, or that cool 9mm AK.

Crosshair
February 24, 2006, 04:41 PM
I would like to see Ruger make larger mags for the 99/44 than the small 4 rounders they have now. Heck, I would be happy with 10 round mags for it. The 99/44 would be a great bear gun if it had a little more ammo at the ready IMHO. Someone should make an adapter for Desert Eagle Magazines.

HPJeep
February 24, 2006, 08:57 PM
Cheap Galils.:D
Cheap semi auto PPSH41 or whatever that cool looking Russian gun is.:eek:
Cheap MOA capable AKs in 7.62x39, .308 and .223.:p
Cheap quad mounted .50 caliber Brownings in semi auto of course.:evil:

mordechaianiliewicz
February 24, 2006, 09:04 PM
A FAMAS in semi

A Steyr AUG in semi (it's commin' out again? who said?)

A 7.62x25mm carbine of higher quality than Hi-point carbines

50 Freak
February 24, 2006, 09:14 PM
A semi 20mm that is under 30 pounds.:evil: :evil:

modifiedbrowning
February 24, 2006, 09:38 PM
I wish Bushmaster would bring back the M17 and make it a finished product.
Like This. (http://www.kurtskustomfirearms.citymax.com/page/page/42606.htm)

kevin387
February 24, 2006, 09:51 PM
I'd like one in 357.

Number 6
February 25, 2006, 05:11 AM
When I was writing the question I had certain rifles that I thought that people would desire, but I am pleasantly surprised at the rifles that some people want. I am very surprised how many of you want some rifles chambered in 7.62x25, which I think is a great idea.

I would like to see someone make a nice HK G41 copy, a Valmet 95, and just because I think they look cool the upgraded version of the SA80. I also would love to see an Ultimax 100 as well.

armoredman
February 25, 2006, 11:12 AM
Semi auto clones of the MP40, and the PPsH41.

The only rifle change I want is the shorty Romainian FPK clone with red dot, and 20 round mags....

SpookyPistolero
February 25, 2006, 11:15 AM
Affordable Galil's, Valmets. More Garands. Easy.

MarineTech
February 25, 2006, 01:57 PM
I'll echo sentiment on the Galil. I'd like to see more of them around.

MSGT9410
February 25, 2006, 04:16 PM
The HK and IMI offerings would be nice- maybe a semi Bizon smg, an original style 550, an an-94, who's next?

Wouldn't a semi-auto AN-94 be kinda pointless (actually, it wouldn't even be a real AN-94), seeing that it's recoil system is setup to fire 2 rounds at a time?

hkmp5g17
February 25, 2006, 05:27 PM
I don't know about pointless- but you have a point. Since we're on a wishlist thread- I'll go ahead ahead and wish for a select fire AN 94-as well as others!:D

CypherNinja
February 25, 2006, 05:45 PM
A semi 20mm that is under 30 pounds. :evil: :evil:

The pain factor on that one might be a bit high for most people. :D

I wanna see some civvy FAMAS's and Galil's. As well, as some kind of small, "tacticool" rifle chambered in a magnum rifle round. :evil:

Number 6
February 25, 2006, 06:18 PM
A Steyr AUG in semi (it's commin' out again? who said?)

Steyr did.

http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_2006_1.htm
http://www.shotshowreports.com/2006pg1.html

Danus ex
February 25, 2006, 06:39 PM
I'd like DSA to make FNCs.

geekWithA.45
February 25, 2006, 07:19 PM
I'd like to see more large capacity foldable/collapsible carbines in .45acp.

They're fantastic for newbies, trunk guns, home defense, plinking, and general just in case/shtf within 100 yards.

Kel-Tech: Y'all listening?


Hey! Marlin! How about an updated & beefed up Camp 45?

MSGT9410
February 25, 2006, 07:28 PM
Have the civy FN2000s made it stateside yet? I knew they were planned for release, along with the P90, but I havn't been paying much attention to them as of late...

beerslurpy
February 25, 2006, 07:53 PM
I'd like to see semi-autos with full auto capability as well. I think there are only so many 5.56mm semiautos you can own before it gets silly.

MSGT9410
February 25, 2006, 08:00 PM
L85s would be cool if they didn't suck so much :barf:

antarti
February 26, 2006, 12:13 AM
I'd like to see more large capacity foldable/collapsible carbines in .45acp.

And in .30 carbine & .460 Rowland.

The_Antibubba
February 26, 2006, 04:08 AM
A VZ-52 with American parts and a synthetic stock (all the wood ones I've ever seen look like crap, and were really heavy).

I, too, want a 7.62X25 carbine.

Garands are nice, but I'd like someone to stumble upon a forgotten warehouse-full of properly packed Johnson rifles! :cool:

Number 6
February 26, 2006, 06:03 AM
A VZ-52 with American parts and a synthetic stock (all the wood ones I've ever seen look like crap, and were really heavy).

Down here in Southern California I saw one with the stock sprayed with bed liner that looked pretty decent. The shop was asking for around $600, but it looked good, and was certainly lighter than my Yugo SKS.

Silent-Snail
February 26, 2006, 09:37 AM
The more I think about the more an SKS in 7.62x54R would be sweet. Also a semi Bren.

Stickjockey
February 26, 2006, 01:10 PM
StG44 in 7.62x39.

MachIVshooter
February 26, 2006, 01:59 PM
FAMAS 5.56mm bullpup rifle:

That thing is FUGLY! Looks like a Steyr AUG and a Hi-Point 995 mated.

pauli
February 26, 2006, 03:15 PM
StG44 in 7.62x39.speaking which, whatever happened to the guys working on semi auto stg44's and fg42's?

MSGT9410
February 26, 2006, 11:23 PM
I bet those would cost you an arm and a leg too :eek:

jagdpanzer347
February 27, 2006, 01:14 AM
Another vote for an affordable Galil. A 5.56 ARM would be a killer addition to my collection. Especially if it were priced under a grand. I can dream, can't I?
-jagdpanzer

50caliber123
February 27, 2006, 01:34 AM
1. A heavy-barreled .44Mag pistol caliber carbine with a magazine of at least 10 rounds or more.

2. An STG-44 semi-auto only version to comemorate my WWII weapons

3. An FG-42 semi-auto only

4. A Bren semi-auto LMG

beerslurpy
February 27, 2006, 01:39 AM
A 7.62x39 StG-44 semiauto would be awesome.

I also concurr with the semiauto 20 or 30mm anti-materiel rifle.

cracked butt
February 27, 2006, 01:42 AM
Another vote for the STG-44

bigun15
February 27, 2006, 01:53 AM
STG44
OICW

MTMilitiaman
February 27, 2006, 02:12 AM
I'll throw another one in for the Galil--a poodle shooter I could actually see myself owning.

I'd like to see a version of the SIG 550 or the SCAR in 7.62x51. I need a lefty-friendly ambidextorous battle rifle, preferrebly under $2K.

Now that you guys mention it, I think I could see myself with an FN PS90 if they chambered it for the 7.62x25. It would actually have a point if you could put 90 gr XTPs in it and use it for person defense. You could probably still manage 25 to 30 of them in a magazine and I think it would be nifty. I imagine it would still have plenty of barrier penetration for a light rig too for FMJs...oooo...I want one...

Creeping Incrementalism
February 27, 2006, 02:12 PM
A factory Mini-14 with a heavy, match-grade barrel that will consistently shoot MOA.

If Ruger or someone made a neary copy ofthe Mini-14, except with a somewhat heavier barrel (maybe not gauranteed MOA, but I think they could be kept under 2 MOA), compensator, accessory rails on 4 sides, parkerized, and accepting AR mags, offered in pistol grip/folding stock as well as a traditional stock, and kept it at a decent price (I think $900 would be reasonable) that thing would sell like hotcakces. So as good as an AR, except more reliable (inherent in the Mini design), for less.

colt.45
February 27, 2006, 05:01 PM
i would like to see more military style wood and metal guns, like the m-1a.

the mini-14 is a good one, but it should have at least a medium weight barrel

i like the idea of a small military style BAR:rolleyes:

if springfield just took some m-1a blueprints and srunk them and chambered it in .223, 7.63x39 and 6.8spc, that would be awesome

hkmp5g17
February 27, 2006, 05:09 PM
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hkmp5g17
February 27, 2006, 05:11 PM
You know.... Ruger was working on a .308 semi rifle years ago. They advertised it- but it never hit the market. I think it would sell well if made.

You listening Ruger? Probably not since we still get 5 round mini 14 mags!

pauli
February 27, 2006, 05:11 PM
i like the idea of a small military style BAR a scaled down bar in 223 would be all kinds of cool.

expensive, though.

edit: there's definitely something catch about the name "miniBAR" :)

The Infidel
February 27, 2006, 05:26 PM
Galil and Valmet rifles.

A semi-auto copy of the SA80A2.

Ranger J
February 27, 2006, 09:38 PM
Deerfield with a recoil pad that works on it. Also one that will load 300g bullets. While I'm at it one that doesn't rattle when you move it while in a deer stand.
RJ

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
February 28, 2006, 02:54 AM
Cooper's Thumper.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Otony
March 19, 2007, 10:12 PM
I have been thinking that something along the line of the old 1907/1910 Winchester in .357 magnum, suitably updated of course, would be mighty fine.

4v50 Gary
March 19, 2007, 10:17 PM
FG-42 in 7.62mm Nato. I'd like to see both the 1st and 2nd model.

kcmarine
March 19, 2007, 10:18 PM
The XM8. Just because the military canceled it doesn't mean it can't be successful. I like it because it looks futuristic, and you could change the charcteristics of the rifle with different stocks, etc.

Of course, that won't happen if that fool McCarthy has her AWBII bill passed...

Prince Yamato
March 19, 2007, 10:34 PM
For those of you looking for a semi-auto STG-44, the Vector Arms V-93

http://www.vectorarms.com/indexframe.html

Looks similar when equipped with a 40 rnd mag. It fires in .223... It looks like a synthetic STG-44 and is roughly the same size. (I've handled a real STG-44 in comparison). I know you're going to say "that looks more like a Cetme" but in person and with the low hanging 40 rounder it looks more like an STG. In fact, I had to do a double take at the shop where I saw one because I thought someone made a synthetic STG-44. Oh yeah, no bipod on the one in the store either.

MMcfpd
March 19, 2007, 10:38 PM
How about a Hi-Point carbine in .45 ACP?

Oh, wait! They're just about to release that, right?

hrgrisso
March 19, 2007, 10:53 PM
I'd love to have:

A mini 14 that accepts AR-15 Mags

Another mini in 6.8Spc that accepts AR mags

a pistol grip carbine in either 10 mm/.357sig with 15-45rd mags

A modern luger .45ACP (I know Rifles, but I want one!)

Springfield Socom Lite (i.e. lightened for a .223 rifle. WOWBABY!)

A mag fed 12gauge semi auto shotgun 15+rounds

New M1 Carbine w/ synthetic stock & rails for light & Eotech sight

Anteater1717
March 19, 2007, 11:13 PM
the pc10 takes 10mm and .40 s&w and takes glock 20 magazines

HiroProX
March 19, 2007, 11:49 PM
What I'd like to see?

Something like a cross between a FN-D and a R80 Monitor.

KadicDeshi
March 19, 2007, 11:54 PM
A mag fed 12gauge semi auto shotgun 15+rounds

Y'know, I can't really see a 12ga 15rd mag being very handy unless it's in drum format. Even a 10rd mag is almost unwieldy...

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=320

Barrett

PercyShelley
March 20, 2007, 04:07 AM
The South African neostead shotgun has 12 shots in dual tube magazines and looks to be reasonably handy. It's a pump though, and I would guess that it's nearing the upper end of what's practical.

No_Brakes23
March 20, 2007, 05:24 AM
All Metal SU-16CA clone with the ability to run a cleaning road from the breach side.

FAL style upper for AR10. POF may already be making this, but is it adjustable like an FAL? ANd dear god, it costs more than a tricked out DSA FAL.

A good .45ACP carbine that uses 1911 mags.

jrfoxx
March 20, 2007, 05:42 AM
I think I could have a lot of fun with this, even in a semi-auto version...
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/50cal.jpg

mmmmm,savory ma deuce goodness, now in a lite version.....:)

PercyShelley
March 20, 2007, 05:50 AM
I think a SVD-actioned rifle made in the US and chambered in .45-70 would be a hoot. I would call it the buffalogunov.

Glockfan.45
March 20, 2007, 08:32 AM
That new Israeli Tavor looks interesting. IMI could sell them alongside with the desert eagle brand. I would also love a civi legal XM8, but we all know what HK is willing to give us serfs as far as rifles go (SL8 :barf: ).

jpcolt76
March 20, 2007, 02:22 PM
I would love to see a 16 inch Saiga in 35 Remington. That would be an awesome woods rifle.

EdLaver
March 20, 2007, 02:37 PM
I'd like an H&K UMP .45acp for sure. Man that would be sweet

30 cal slob
March 20, 2007, 03:15 PM
+1 on an FN FNC clone (should call it something different to get around my home state EBR ban).

i shot the crap out of a select fire FNC several years back. lordy, that thing is built like a brick *****house. love it, even if it is considered "obselete."

plexreticle
March 20, 2007, 03:30 PM
FN P90 in 22WMR would be uber.

trbon8r
March 20, 2007, 03:36 PM
For you guys that want an affordable Galil clone, they are already available.

Ohio Rapid Fire receiver- $350
Galil parts kit including new U.S. made barrel- $300
U.S. required parts for 922r - $40
Gunsmithing including refinishing- $400

This gets you a nice Galil clone for around $1100, or figure maybe $1200 or so if you have to replace some unserviceable parts in your parts kit, or if you want to buy nice mint condition handguards, etc. Sounds affordable to me, considering original Galils are in the $2000+ range.

I've got all my parts together, and just need to box it all up and get them sent in to be built.

kcmarine
March 20, 2007, 05:20 PM
That new Israeli Tavor looks interesting. IMI could sell them alongside with the desert eagle brand. I would also love a civi legal XM8, but we all know what HK is willing to give us serfs as far as rifles go (SL8 ).



Good point about the XM8. However, HK spent millions on that rifle, had a bunch they were gonna build for our military and then the project got cancelled. Civilian along with LE sales might be the only way they can recover costs on that thing.;)

oregonhunter
March 20, 2007, 05:22 PM
An Ar style platform chambered in 470NE, AKA The african assulter.

Number 6
March 21, 2007, 07:06 AM
Good point about the XM8. However, HK spent millions on that rifle, had a bunch they were gonna build for our military and then the project got cancelled. Civilian along with LE sales might be the only way they can recover costs on that thing.

Or just sell the design to General Dynamics. ;)

cheygriz
March 21, 2007, 01:15 PM
A nice bullpup, or folding stock carbine in 7.62X25 with a 50-60 round top mounted magazine similar to the PS90.

A brand new, semi auto version of the PPSH 7.62X25 submahinegun with new versions of the original 71 round drum magazines.

A "TRUE" reproduction (semi, or course) of the Schmieser in both 9MM and .30Luger.

:) :) And perhaps even more important, high quality, reliable after market drum magazines of 50 and/or 100 rounds for the Beretta CX4, Ruger PC9, Mini 14/30, Auto Ordnance Thompson and etc.:) :)

(Wouldn't that drive "The Brady Bunch" bonkers??)

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