[boofus]

Check this out:

http://unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?calid=15790

For Nat Turner, For Martin and Coretta, For all the Torture and Assassination in Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti and many others - We will not allow the Slave Holders that Still Prevail in this Country to Rule us any longer. Imprisonment and torture based on race, religion, resources or region is no different than the slavery we sought to abolish years ago. The Administration is Criminal and if they will not step down, we must storm in.


We are calling on all Member Nations of the U.N., All Representatives and Justices in the World Court and International Criminal Courts, all soldiers and CIA agents and government officials who have been blackmailed by the dictators to incarcerate Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. The Political Cooperative will put a new government in place that is comprised of people from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watchand all the organizations that have finally made us aware of the truth of the savage practices and illegal policies of our government in assassinating our own officials as well as people throughout the world who oppose their criminal activity.


Our favorite marxist group is publicly calling for violent overthrow of the US Government and open rebellion. They want to replace our constitution and constitutionally elected leaders with the United Nations and other europeans.

So my question is... when can we start shooting them? My magazines have been loaded for a long time and I think the springs might be wearing out. :scrutiny:

[Maxwell]

Hmmm... I thought the left didnt like guns or violence?
Maybe someone should remind them that the VP has a shotgun :scrutiny:

[lawdogso]

I think they should be wiped off the face of this earth. That is a straight up threat to the country I love.
lawdogso

[Merkin.Muffley]

Let them make noise - no one is listening.

[silliman89]

I thought there were laws against inciting armed revolt?

[Car Knocker]

I think they should be wiped off the face of this earth. That is a straight up threat to the country I love.


You view political dissent as deserving of death? I believe the Founding Fathers would disagree with you. I certainly do. Dissent serves to strengthen the country and suppression of dissent brings us closer to a totalitarian state. Even during the height of the Cold War and McCarthy's red-baiting, there was no effort to wipe the American Communist Party off the face of this Earth; persecute them, yes, wipe them out, no.

[Lone_Gunman]

Thomas Jefferson advised violent overthrow of the government every 20 years.

[Sleeping Dog]

The rant on that site is like a slow day at Democratic Underground (http://www.democraticunderground.com)

[Taurus 66]

incarcerate Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.

To incarcerate the three as they have mentioned is not going to make much of an impact on the US government.

illegal policies of our government in assassinating our own officials as well as people throughout the world who oppose their criminal activity.

Awww c'mon! Democrats too have assassinated a few of their own .. you know. It's a proud tradition that has been happening since the days of Washington. Don't end it now. ;)

[Silver Bullet]

Maybe they found their Fully Automatic Revolver, and they're ready to rumble.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=99988&highlight=Dems

[Maxwell]

Dissent serves to strengthen the country and suppression of dissent brings us closer to a totalitarian state.

Maybe, but their dancing on a fine line with this.

we must storm in

It sounds like their asking for a physical act of taking and holding ground.
Armed or unarmed? What will they do once inside?
Government is more than a desk and chair, just sitting in the room wont do much to change the course of the nation. Are they planning to take hostages or destroy property?
How do you suspect the cops will respond?

At some point you go from simply protesting to being dangerous.
Disagreement and dissent are fine, but rushing into a government building to do God knows what with the people inside is just begging for a pepperspray mouthwash.
Risky at best, counterproductive and possibly fatal at worse.

[boofus]

You view political dissent as deserving of death?

Hello??? They aren't criticizing the president or his policies. They are calling for the complete nullification of the US Constitution, imprisonment of the elected leaders and their replacement with unelected foreigners. And they want to physically storm into the whitehouse to do it.

[Crimson]

So my question is... when can we start shooting them? My magazines have been loaded for a long time and I think the springs might be wearing out.

Shortly after they overthrow the current government but before they make a new one

[ravinraven]

Yeah. I suppose it would be fun to take them seriously and blast away, but it would be right up there with beating babies who drooled on you.

But they are fun to read!

rr

[Sindawe]

...but it would be right up there with beating babies who drooled on you. And the problem with THAT is? :evil:

From the politicalcooperative.org site: The people of the Political Cooperative will put a new government in place that is truly representative of the people and comprised of the people through social justice organizations that have been fighting for our rights all along. While the current folks in office don't really represent my views, somehow I doubt the "Social Justice" organizations would do any better.

[beerslurpy]

Hey the quote feature is still broken!

illegal policies of our government in assassinating our own officials

I couldnt agree more. If Vince Foster had a gun, he would still be alive today.

[cosine]

Hey the quote feature is still broken!

Not broken. It's working fine for me. :neener:
Oh, you mean the quote button is missing. If you mosey over to Tech Support forum, you'll see Mal's stickied post which expains that the quote button has been disabled.

[jlbraun]

Two things:
1. Thank you for using the correct term, "leftist", instead of the incorrect and insulting-to-Ben-Franklin "liberal".
2. More proof that the political spectrum is a circle. You go far right or far left, and you wind up in the same place.

[Old Fuff]

Oh dear... :uhoh:

I went and hid under my bed...

Tell me when it's safe to come out... :rolleyes: :neener:

[garyk/nm]

Shortly after they overthrow the current government but before we make a new one
There, fixed it!

[PATH]

Giggle, Giggle! Snicker, fall on the ground in paroxsysyms of laughter!

Don't worry about these folks. Half the membership is the government and most of what is left accepts pay to rat out the remnants!:D Hee, heee! :neener: :D

You just can't make this stuff up! Overthrow the Govt,? Guffaw, Guffaw!

[MrTwigg]

Called the First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The above words permit us as well to speak freely and openly here and anyplace within the United States of America.

These :cuss: people are like small yippy dogs, some people think they are cute but in reality they are really, really annoying and have neither the will or spirit for a real fight.

[gunsmith]

The people of the Political Cooperative will put a new government in place that is truly representative of the people and comprised of the people through social justice organizations that have been fighting for our rights all along.

they will put?? no election?....what a bunch of morons!
how will they storm in ...the power of their assault frowns
will knock the millitary off their collective feet.

[boofus]

Called the First Amendment

No one has stopped those fruitcakes from speaking their mind. They used their 1st amendment right to announce their intention of overthrowing the government and installing their own unelected dictators. Now it's up to other people to decide how to deal with these commies now that they've announced to the entire world their ILLEGAL plans.

The 1st Amendment isn't a blank check to say whatever you want without repercussions. Remember your Miranda rights? Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law?

If you hypothetically use your 1st and 2nd amendment rights to run down the street with a rifle screaming "I'M GONNA KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU JEWS AND BLACKS!" The 1st amendment won't protect you if a black man or police officer decides to lawfully take you down for his own safety.

[50caliber123]

It's pretty stupid to announce a date like that. And then assume that everyone will embrace your hostile takeover. I lay anyone money that this group is on an FBI/Homeland security domestic terrorist watchlist. IF they do ANYTHING on March 15th, they will only be met with bullets. Not that I'm defending Bush, but I think the best way to create change is to vote, and to peaceably assemble. NOT overthrow a government. How can that be peaceful?

[wheelgunslinger]

If you hypothetically use your 1st and 2nd amendment rights to run down the street with a rifle screaming "I'M GONNA KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU JEWS AND BLACKS!" The 1st amendment won't protect you if a black man or police officer decides to lawfully take you down for his own safety.

So, you're saying that all police officers are jews? Or, maybe you're saying that black men can't be police officers.



This is a tempest in a teacup. I can make a website saying that I'm going to take School of the Americas down with a truckload of hostess fruit pies ala the marvel comics ads of the 70's and 80's, but it doesn't make it plausible.

[wheelgunslinger]

But, just in case you don't understand why I'm blowing this off...
Back in the 80's the White Patriots Party plotted to overthrow the government. Before it even got off the ground, they were busted. A couple even got to do the Perp Walk™ on TV.
But, you don't have to believe me. Why don't you read what LCDR Steven Mack Presley had to say about it back in 1996.
http://ftp.fas.org/irp/eprint/presley.htm

:barf:

[Kim]

Anyone who has ever thought all the PEACE groups are about peace is a fool. They are nothing more than a political cult. Dangerous yes. Do they have any chance for the revolution ----------NO. They may die trying but very few will care. They will not become "CHE".

[Moondoggie]

I wonder if the new PTB will appoint Cindy Sheehan as SecDef???

1st Amendment rights aside, advocating the overthrow of the gov't by force is a federal crime. These loons keep spouting off and I predict a medium length stay in Club Fed, just like the founder of the ACLU got.

[Taurus 66]

An Act in addition to the act, entitled "An act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States. "

SEC. I Be it enacted . . ., That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty; and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot. unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be holden to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.

SEC. 2. That if any person shall write, print, utter. Or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them. or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against the United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.

SEC. 3. That if any person shall be prosecuted under this act, for the writing or publishing any libel aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the defendant, upon the trial of the cause, to give in evidence in his defence, the truth of the matter contained in the publication charged as a libel. And the jury who shall try the cause, shall have a right to determine the law and the fact, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.

SEC. 4. That this act shall continue to be in force until March 3, 1801, and no longer....

Bring it Back!!! Oh Pretty Pretty Please ...

[Hardtarget]

Ther're in that group of people that are like slinkies.
Not much good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when you push 'em down the steps. :D

sorry...I don't get a chance to use that very often.
Mark.

[geekWithA.45]

ROFLMAO!

"Our secret plan to overthrow the constitutional government of the United States is as follows:

-Muster in front of the white house on Wednesday, March 15, high noon.
-uh...storm the place....
-uh....capture the POTUS, VEEP and SECDEF
-uh....replace them with...uh.....uh....whoever's in charge of Amnesty International....uh....yeah.....that's what we're going to do.


Don't tell anyone, mmmkay?"

[LAR-15]

It's illegal to plot to overthrow the US Government under North Carolina state law that I know of.

[ctdonath]

incarcerate Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.HAHAHAHHA! Funny.

Could someone forward a reminder to them that...
- Bush keeps an M1911 handy
- Cheney shot a friend in the face recently
- Rumsfeld runs the military.

These are not people that "peaceniks" can just grab and haul off.

[Standing Wolf]

Small children will do anything for attention.

[Kim]

Remember that little internet game a few years back that showed Condi,Bush, Powell, Cheney and Rumsfield shooting the terrorists that invaded the White House. Replace terrorists with hippie peace people.:D

[progunner1957]

I can see it now: A handful of skank-ass hairball hippies, reeking of patchouli, year old sweat and dirt will storm the White House with their fearsome weapons of war - dogged-out Birkenstocks, hemp man purses, strings of juju beads and insense sticks.

Maybe the ACME Tin Foil Hat Company can make a special run of foil hats in "shoot me" orange to match the hippies' soon to be issued prison coveralls...:D

[Kodiaz]

World court U.N. ha I'd love to see them try that oh boy. What calibers for blue helmets? Talk about a target rich environment. I'm going to have nice dreams tonite.

[Manedwolf]

How, exactly, does a group mostly comprised of members who are scared of guns and would not know how to operate them...take over from people who do?

[GoRon]

How, exactly, does a group mostly comprised of members who are scared of guns and would not know how to operate them...take over from people who do?

Maybe they can get their friends at the UN to pass some resolutions.

Give diplomacy a chance. Maybe the administration will willingly give up the White House when it is explained to them why they are wrong.

[CAnnoneer]

All of this reminds me of Halitosis Todd (a.k.a. the Revolutionary). LawDog had a funny thread on the subject, including pumpjacks and wheelbugs.

[itgoesboom]

Well, they call yell and scream and complain and call for a new Government as much as the want. As long as all they do it talk and yell and scream and complain.

The second they actually try to overthrow our Government, well, I think it is open season on leftists at that point.

It's not that I love our current Government- honestly, we have a lot of corruption and other major issues to deal with - but I think that working through the system is the way to deal with it. And trying to overthrow the Government of the most free country in the entire world, and impose a new government made up of other corrupt people who dont understand that the 1st amendment also applys to conservatives (only one example of what is wrong with them), is not very logical.

Good news is that we have the guns, and they don't.

I.G.B.

[Koobuh]

:rolleyes:

On the other hand, if the chaos gets out of hand, the Veterans can take over. ;)
Ah, Heinlein...

[griz]

We are calling on all Member Nations of the U.N., All Representatives and Justices in the World Court and International Criminal Courts, all soldiers and CIA agents and government officials who have been blackmailed


If they were threatening to actually DO something I would take them seriosly. But they are pleading for somebody else, actually almost ANYBODY esle, to make all their issues disappear.

[stevelyn]

Aaaaaagh!:barf: :what: There's a group of them in Fairbanks...........and the zip code is in my neighborhood.:uhoh:

[jazurell]

Just one little problem..... after all is said and done, the good old US of A is by far the largest financial supporter and troop supplier to the UN. Don't think these guys are going to attack their own country and don't think the US will continue supporting, financially, the organization that is shooting at them.
But that's just a guess.......

[docfubar]

The way I look at it, LET THEM! :evil: If they are that stupid to believe the AMERICAN people would put up with being under someone else's rule, then we will show the New goverment that the Revolutionary War was just practice:D

[madmike]

"Help! We want people with guns to overthrow our government...er...but in a peaceful fashion! And only people who agree with us, so if you don't agree with us, would you get rid of your weapons, please? Or we'll call for OTHER people who know nothing about weapons to take them from you!"

:rolleyes:

Yes, they do have free speech. That said, a few of them being beaten and left in the gutters WOULD improve the country.

I don't advocate it. But I won't stop anyone I see doing it.

Now, the question is, how do we get this entire crowd into a stadium in LA, so we can tell a bunch of frothing Arab extremists they can run in with all the bombs they want? It would solve so many problems at once.

[engineer151515]

I've seen this before on TV. Went something like this...

Bullwinkle: "Hey Rocky. Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat."
Rocky: "Again! That trick never worked."
Bullwinke: "This time, for sure. PRESTO!"
Lion's head comes out of the hat and roars. Bullwinkle shoves the Lion's head back into the hat.

Bullwinkle: "Gotta get me a new hat"

[HankB]

The Political Cooperative will put a new government in place that is comprised of people from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and all the organizations that have finally made us aware of the truth . . . Uhhh . . . somehow, I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling at the idea of THESE people in charge. I get the idea that given the chance, they'd be willing to do anything - and I mean literally ANYTHING - to impose their philosophy on everyone else, whether they wanted it or not.

That scares me.

[madmike]

Hank: And that bunch of whining wusses would impose their will how?

I do recall with horror a convo with a 20 year old Canuckian chick who proudly claimed to be a statist, stating that "99% of people won't do the right thing unless you FORCE them to!" (Emphasis hers.)

I asked her what her credentials were to decide what was right, and if she was prepared to go ahead in the face of violent opposition.

She called me an anarchist. The only compliment I got from her.:D

[Carl N. Brown]

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. (SCOTUS):
The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a
man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic. It
does not even protect a man from an injunction against uttering
words that may have all the effect of force.

The question in every case is whether the words used are used in
such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear
and present danger that they will bring about the substantive
evils that Congress has a right to prevent.

Would a reasonable person consider the Political Cooperative to be a
credible threat of imminent sedition and deadly harm to the Constitution?

MAD and Saturday Night Live are more credible than PoCoop.

[madmike]

They're a credible threat....




















To my BS detector. It only goes up to a setting of "Rampant, stupid, unbelievable BS."

[carlrodd]

this is a win, win, win situation. if they do nothing, it only reinforces their uselessness and lack of backbone. if they attempt this and are violently put down, it will be fun to watch on television. (daydream time here)if they attempt this and somehow manage to successfully initiate the overthrow of our current federal government, we will all be in our glory as we will have license to stage a bloody coup of their fledging communist experiment, and finally have the chance to indulge all of our SHTF and urban comabt fantasies. i am excited in any event.

[cuchulainn]

<yawn>

[ALS]

As people more famous than me always say "When they're out of power they get funnier and funnier. When they are in power they are down right dangerous."
The 64 thousand dollar question is
"Which Democrat Politicians will be attending and speaking?"

[ArmedBear]

An attempt at open rebellion and overthrow of the US government would be a good thing. It wouldn't succeed, it would make their real goals more obvious to the less-informed, and it would probably result in the utter destruction of their movement.

[HankB]

Hank: And that bunch of whining wusses would impose their will how? Maybe when they saw how . . . uncooperative . . . the redneck reactionary counter-revolutionary revanchists were, they'd reluctantly see a need for an organization which would, as a last resort (of course) use force to impose proper order.

They could recruit it's members from all those poor, misunderstood souls currently incarcerated by the evil Bushmen, including the cheerful folks from Al-Qaida, MS-13, and so forth. Maybe they could even come up with a catchy name like "People's Commisariat for Internal Affairs" . . .

[madmike]

Carlrodd: Dammit! It's YOUR fault! Now I want to show up or tune in and watch some heads get busted in the manner of good, old-fashioned police brutality I hate in principle but personally love to see applied to certain elements.

But the forms MUST be obeyed for it to be proper:

Cradle baton.

"If'n yer daddy had hit ya when you were growin' up, I wouldn't have to be hittin' ya now!"

CRACK!:D

[JJpdxpinkpistols]

I pointed it out to my wife, a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat with a capital "D".

She laughed, and snorted, and dang near had a caughing fit that sent her to the hospital.

"Yeah, RIGHT...storm the White House...snort. They couldn't overthrow a dogcatcher who was a drunk gas-huffer." Was her response. She then went back to the housework she was doing (I was on break from fixing the dryer).

I have about...oh...zero faith in *anything* related to their suggestion. Zero faith in their ability to carry it out, zero faith in their will to carry it out, zero faith in their hope of assistance from the UN, zero faith in any success that such a proletariat would have, and lastly zero faith in their brainpower, collectively.

thanks for the laugh, tho!

[KriegHund]

Hey, if the liberals start up a revolution, lets let em fight it out for a while, then join in at the last second, win the revolution, and try the great experiment over agaain.

[madmike]

Recently, a masochistic friend of mine got into a debate at democraticunderground.com. Being a proselytizing type, he asked me along to enjoy the misery with him.

There actually was one poster who seemed intelligent and had a few things to say on Iraqi WMD issues. I wanted to ask him more questions.

Unfortunately, by their odd site rules, one must post “enough” posts before being allowed the “privilege” of starting threads or mailing others. So I replied to a few threads, trying to be innocuous.

Then someone actually posted a question along the lines of “Are there actually Democrats in the military?” which degenerated into a “Clinton was better than Bush” tirade. You can guess where it went—Bush was “Selected, not elected and isn’t really Commander-in-Chief, so everyone in the military should just ignore his orders.” I asked if they really wanted the military to select its own CinC, like the Praetorians, when a vicious post was aimed at a Democratic service member (whiskybuff) who’d had the gall to insist that he had to obey his lawful orders.

It’s the 18 year, two service vet in me. I don’t care about his politics, I’ll stand with a fellow vet against the horde even if our only weapons are toothpicks and harsh language.

Only, before I could respond to the subliterate diatribe mentioned below, I got a message on screen that “Your posting privileges have been revoked.” Apparently, I’d failed to be a good liberal (thank God) by asking if a war in Iraq under Bush was bad, why a war in Bosnia under Clinton had been good?

I burned another email address and sent them the following:

(quoting their site rules)
“CIVILITY AND RESPECT

Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other members of this discussion board.

Do not post racist, sexist, homophobic, ethnic, or religious slurs.

Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a conservative disruptor or FReeper. If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" button below their post so the moderators can deal with it.

If another member of this board drives you into fits of uncontrollable rage, put that person on your ignore list.

If you are the type of person who just can't get along with other people, and if you seem to repeatedly cause trouble, eventually we will decide that your presence is a disruption and we will ban you. We don't care if you are liberal or conservative.

Try not to take things personally. A thick skin is usually required to participate on this or any message board.”


And yet we have this post:

“What Freeper unleashed this Whiskeyscruff upon us??? ElementaryPenguin Dec-03-02

Now the Chimp is NOT an AWOL thief - and we HAVE to obey the little ****. YOU
obey 'em all you like, whiskeybluff - you're obviously just posting to irritate. You don't agree
with anything anyone is saying here!! Just **** off and go home to Freeperville!!! I (puke) in your
general direction!!!!!!!!!!”



Name calling, profanity and poor grammar to boot. And this is his 896th post. Of course, he’s never name-called or used profanity before. They will ban him Real Soon Now. Count on it. But not before his 897th post.

Of course, if no one, including a moderator, has complained, then he cannot be banned. But that would never happen, since these people stand for integrity and honesty and fairness, right?

The message here is that if you are in the military but don’t ejaculate the Board’s party line, you will be silenced, so the readers can only get the TRUE message from military members. Or at least from the ones you should listen to. If you question the Movement, you will be barred. If you dare to disagree, you will be exiled.

If, however, you endorse rebellion against the government, call people “freepers” (whatever the hell that means) and tell them to "**** off,” you will be welcomed to the intellectual elite.

Who ultimately is hurt by this? They are. It is obvious to anyone inquiring that they are elitist demagogues. Those of us who were impressed by the comments of some of the posters, who wish true discourse on subjects that these posters are clearly expert in, are denied the opportunity to contact them, until we have responded to “enough” posts. “Enough” being defined in their rules as “some number that isn’t very large that we won’t tell you.” Thus, we cannot learn of what we perceive to be the good in Liberalism unless we first swear to that we despise. No first step down the road less traveled permitted. They don’t really want new converts or debate; they want psychophantic ass kissers.

They claim in their masturbatory posts that they are the “majority” of Americans, trodden down by their opponents, yet they must shield their readers from anyone who might wish to talk to them, until such supplicants have proven their worth by spewing the party line. Why? Are they, like door-to-door evangelists, afraid that the programming might be broken if one of them were to think alone? If not, then why the ban? Do they feel their members are unable to delete unwanted mail and ignore the sender thereof? After all, if there are so many of them, what threat a few inquiries?

Thus it has been across the web, at over a dozen groups I’ve visited the “peaceful, enlightened liberals” who support free speech will ban a person in a second for questioning the True Order of Things. Yet the “Evil rightwing conservative Christian gun nut militia conspiracy” crowd will let you speak your piece then respond. How brutally savage and unfair of them.

How odd that the allegedly “right wing” www.thefiringline.com and www.glocktalk.com, run by that tiny group of gun nuts, doesn’t need to resort to such tactics, and in fact welcomes posts from gay, pagan and liberal gun owners, or even defense-rights opponents. Yet they are allegedly racist and bigoted by definition, we are told.

How ironic that they, allegedly standing for everything evil, welcome inquiry and community mindedness. Yes, they have their own share of idiots, any message board does. But they are certainly not “right wing” in the true sense of the term.

Nor are they, like the masquerading hypocrites running DU, Fascists. Who, I’ll bet $5 with myself, either delete this post at once (I already know they’ll ban me for it), or have their lickspittle lackeys call me “right wing gun nut” or “freak” or simply to tell me to "**** off and die,” as they’ve been programmed to do any time thinking might be an option.

Whiskybuff, William X, if you are reading this, I’d really like to talk to you. Drop me a line at (address). If you don’t mind pissing off your masters, that is.

PS: does anyone else find it ironic that a group that allegedly opposes capitalism, is against big business, in favor of the family business and supports the little guy has banner ads from Amazon?

www.michaelzwilliamson.com

Ignore the propaganda. Focus on what you see.


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ProfessorGAC (1432 posts)
Dec-03-02, 05:05 PM (ET)
Reply to post #4
6. Next!
Heard it all before. Not only is it wrong, but it is REALLY boring! Reminds me of correcting the
grammar of a poster with which one disagrees. No real points are made. Just nitpicking. Same
thing in this post. No noticeable intellectual content; no point of view aside from the fact that you
disagree with the majority here.

One suggestion: Most americans did vote AGAINST Georgie. As matter of fact, more people voted
for a single different candidate. If you can't deal with those big numbers, i apologize for presuming
too much. So, if you don't want posters claiming to represent the majority, i'd suggest you heed
your advice and not do the same.

The Professor
(Forgot more while i was writing this, than you'll ever know.) (NOTE FROM MIKE: including grammar, spelling, reading for content and an understanding of the Electoral College, apparently. Nor did I mention Bush. He just needed to get that fact in. If he says it enough, I might believe it. After all, he's a "professor.")

Karenina (1611 posts)
Dec-03-02, 05:17 PM (ET)
Reply to post #4
7. Elementary, my dear
Penguin speaks from the heart and may squawk at times, I find the utterances utterly charming.
Are you sure you dialed the right number? (NOTE FROM MIKE: “Charming” is one word for them.)

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There was also some idiot who was outraged that a “Kerry” was married to a Heinz heiress and was worth $600 million. Apparently, since Kerry hasn’t given most of it to charity and kept an arbitrary $10 mil, he’s evil and the poster will not buy any Heinz products.

Unfortunately, I was (as I expected) kicked off before I could ask him if he was using a PC running Windows to post to the board…and then all my posts were deleted. Elapsed time, ten minutes. It seems I called it correctly. And they weren’t even ashamed of their bigotry.

To paraphrase something I heard from Dr Jerry Pournelle, “I’m not sure what they are. I know liberals. These don’t sound like them.”

I guess I’ll never be able to contact that liberal defense analyst with his reams of data and primary source material, which, as you might recall, was my motivation for subjecting myself to all this. I’m sure that somehow this is my fault.

I’ll go hang my head in shame now.

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And now I'll go take another shower to wash the stink of lefty off. When my cat makes a mess like this, I punish him. Someone wap these scum in the nose, please.

[Carl N. Brown]

I thibk "freeper" refers to the Free Republic website which
may be a conservative counter point to the Democratic Dungeon.
(Yeah, it lists *gasp* a GOP forum!! I just checked!!!)

DU calling anyone they disagree with "freeper" is like a knee
jerk reaction typical of doctrinaire liberals.

[confed sailor]

I seem to remember a poster on Demo-underground that was advocating "going to wal-mart and buying guns'n'stuff" to forment open revolt.

Oh well, looks like the Cetme will have to wait a bit longer for "hippie-commie-pinko" blood :P

(i kid, promise)

though i do like the advance notice, im short on .308:evil:

[madmike]

Yes, I found that out later. I was a "freeper" despite never having been on FR.

I suppose I should start calling all lefites "duhers."

And FR may be extreme, but I'd feel a LOT safer around armed FRers than unarmed DUers.

[KriegHund]

madmike-

I had a similar sitaution but i never bothered to e-mail about it.

Its funny how they call us crazy, rascist, etc, closed minded...

But when you go over there and even think about disagreeing you are cursed at (against their own rules :eek: ) and banned.

yeesh!

[ArmedBear]

Anyone seen Repo Man?

"Let's eat sushi and don't pay!"

[madmike]

Krieghund: I have liberal friends. I refuse to smear them with DU.

Actually, some of them like logging on there to stir things up and get called "right wingers."

After all, Leon Trotsky WAS a right-winger, right?:scrutiny:

[GrammatonCleric]

Yet another reason that ALL Leftists should be sterilized, in order to prevent their particular brand of drooling idiocy from spreading. :D In all seriousness though, I just shrug this stuff off, and have a good belly laugh. Leftists are cowardly, inbred pisspots that lack the mental acuity of most common single-celled organisms. IF they ever grow some balls (NOT VERY LIKELY), and try to start some violence, they will no doubt be quickly beaten into submission. :D :D :D

[TheArchDuke]

BWAHAHAHA I like how the article makes it sound like a violent rebellion but then at the end it says,
"bring signs that say U.N. SOS and "Leave Now" or whatever you would like to say"

It's just another protest. Nothing to see here. Move along.


P.S. Maybe protest warrior will be there. That's always entertaining.
www.protestwarrior.com

[PATH]

Democartic Underground folks might be called "DULLARDS"!:D

D-emocratic
U-nderground
L-oony
L-efties
A-nd
R-etarded
D-oofuses


Just a thought. I kinda like being a red necked Freeper!:neener: :D

[Car Knocker]

This thread seems to be degenerating into less than High Road material.

[madmike]

Maintaining the moral high ground means being honorable in intentions and acts. It doesn't mean we can't insult frothing idiots.

[Carl N. Brown]

Did they get ostracized for advocating going to Walmart?

This thread seems to be degenerating into less than High Road material.
Exposure to Democratic Underground does that to people. It most
be a Videodrome cathode ray mission effect from the monitor.

[madmike]

Carl--and as I noted, they have ads from Amazon--destroying independent bookstores since 1998.

And these same little commie wannabes chant "information wants to be free!" while stealing artists' text and images. If you ask them, it's immoral to make money from art, or food, or utilities, or shelter. Landlords STEAL their money, because everyone knows once the building is paid for it doesn't cost anything. Writers and artists shouldn't want money. It's about the profound expression of self. And Food Is A Basic Human Right.

Never mind that food is cheaper in the US than almost anywhere else. ADM is making money off it, and that makes it repugnant.

Now, if we could just get the little twits to boycott housing and food the way they boycott "consumerism" (Except the clothes they buy at WalMart, or at some fashion store to make a point), the problem would be solved.

This last weekend at a convention, one of them asked a dealer if she'd open up 30 CDs so he could rip them to his iPod. He didn't understand why she said no. It's not as if it would COST her anything. How about $5 cash? She wouldn't even be out the CDs...

Moron.

[PATH]

Levity expressed at the expense of lunacy appears to be quite a High Road approach. Laughter and not vitriol is the High Road for me and many others. I let the other side be angry and bitter. Me, I'm gonna laugh and be happy!:D

[madmike]

Of course, if we laugh at them, we face the risk of them coming after us with fully-automatic revolvers.

Unless, of course, they can enact a fully-automatic revolver ban.

Hm...I wonder if raising awareness of the threat of fully-automatic revolvers would get them activated to ban them?

I think they could probably get Congress to pass a fully-automatic revolver ban if they agitated enough. Certainly state level fully-automatic revolver bans in CA, MD, NYC, MA and DC.

What do you think?

[Henry Bowman]

Hm...I wonder if raising awareness of the threat of fully-automatic revolvers would get them activated to ban them?I don't think it would take much to get them activated enough to ban dihydrogenmonoxide!

[madmike]

DHMO is the silent killer! Present in 100% of toxic waste dumps and in all contaminated water supplies. The Columbine killers had ingested DHMO before their attack.

[Carl N. Brown]

The Universal Solvent capable of dissolving more things than acid!!??!!
Who in the name of all things sane would have a NEED for such a
dangerous chemical as the Universal Solvent DHMO dihydrogenmonoxide?
That is why we need the UN: global warming is raising DHMO levels worldwide.

[madmike]

The lack of regulation of DHMO before 1930 has led to 95% mortality in that demographic.

I recall DHMO destroying a case of M16s when I was on active duty. It ate holes in the receivers and turned them to fluffy powder. It's chemical ionic action caused the bolts and barrel extension lugs to seize into a single piece.

But there is a start on regulating DHMO. Fully automatic revolvers are totally unregulated!

[Maxwell]

Hm...I wonder if raising awareness of the threat of fully-automatic revolvers would get them activated to ban them?


Dammit, I guess I better hurry up and buy one! :rolleyes:

[ctdonath]

Well, the Leftists were going to storm the White House today. Any word on the drizzle?

[CAnnoneer]

I hear oxygen-dihydride is even more dangerous! Especially when combined with carbon dioxide and monosaccharides! It drives innocent children crazy!

[Maxwell]

Well, the Leftists were going to storm the White House today. Any word on the drizzle?

Dunno.
The President wasnt home anyways.
He was probly off having tea someplace cozy.

[DontBurnMyFlag]

so your telling me that on the 15th these idiots are going to "storm the whitehouse"??? Morons. Id like to see them climb the gates let alone occupy a heavily fortified compound like the whitehouse. jeez.

the problem with this hypocrites is that they are all talk. They speak of freedom and blah blah blah and all they want to do is install an oppressive "lovey dovey everything will be fine" socialist dictatorship.

You can argue till your blue in the face with these people, it wont make any difference.

Take solace in the fact that WE are prepared, they are not. They can try what they want, but they wont make it a city block.