Does the GPS Sniper Rifle really exist?


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Thin Black Line
February 28, 2006, 09:07 AM
Was that a mosquito bite or someone shooting a GPS chip in the back
of my neck?:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060222&articleId=2034

Is this thing real or BS? It seems strange that the company's website
would use a Catholic Priest in the US as a tracking suspect!

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redbearde
February 28, 2006, 09:19 AM
Well, given that this

http://www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/products_en002_instructions.htm

is the manufacturer's other product, my guess would be that it's not meant to be serious.

*shrug*

I could be wrong.

Thin Black Line
February 28, 2006, 09:35 AM
I wonder if this artist is the same one who did the Straw Purchase cartoon
for the BATF? :)

Double Naught Spy
February 28, 2006, 09:37 AM
Sure it exists. We all know that shooting a high powered rifle at another person can be done with just the sensation of a mosquito bite to the recipient. We also know that GPS microchips and power supplies have been made small enough that they can be encapsulated to protect the electronics from corrosion and made sturdy enough to withstand the tremendous g-force shock of the launch from the high powered rifle.

With an effective range of 1100 meters, my guess is that the gun is lethal even with its .11 caliber small size. Getting that small projectile that far would require a lot of energy and given the size of the 12 round magazine, this gun can't do it.

Notice that no ammunition is shown. Notice they have no field test results.

Similarly lacking is the photo capabilities. The system is supposed to have a high resolution camera to take a detailed picture of the person shot. Even in 2002 when it was shown at the China show, a 2.1 megapixel camera wasn't hardly high resolution.

mp510
February 28, 2006, 11:04 AM
http://www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/img/EN03-223b_low.jpg
http://www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/img/idsniper_function.gif
http://www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/img/idsniper_software01.jpg
http://www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/img/idsniper_software02.jpg

some pics from the maker.

'Card
February 28, 2006, 11:25 AM
Fortunately my aluminum foil hat blocks the signals from the rifle-implanted microchips they shot into me from the black helicopters.

Justin
February 28, 2006, 11:38 AM
Looks like satire.

Third_Rail
February 28, 2006, 12:10 PM
The picture of the rifle looks rendered.

AJ Dual
February 28, 2006, 12:57 PM
Uh, no.

Until they can shrink a battery, a GPS reciever, and a cell phone or other suitable transmitter down to the size of a small caliber bullet, it's fantasy.

Such a device can't reliably be shrunk much past the size of a Zippo lighter. Sure, there are GPS's small enough to fit in to a wristwatch now, or just be one more component in a cell phone, but you still need the transmitter and a powerful enough battery to send the GPS coordinates back to the tracking party for a useable length of time.

Then there's the physics problems with being able to shoot someone from enough distance to penetrate their body, without it being lethal, etc.

The GPS sniper rifle is satire to stir up debate about privacy, identity theft, government surveilance etc. They're also preying upon the public's ignorance. There is a common misperception that GPS devices send a homing signal to the satelites, who then "see" where you are, and pinpoint your position. The website on the first link provided is either a further parody front for the "makers" of the rifle, or were foolish and took thier web page at face value.

Of course, the reality is that GPS satelites just continuously broadcast timed signals which the GPS reciver triangulates your position with. GPS on the part of the reciever is completely passive, just like a magnetic compas, except that "north" and "south" are the moving satelites and it uses radio waves and mathematical formulas on it's computerized innards to perform the calculations.

For GPS data to be useful in surveilance, the data has to be transmitted to those performing the survielance, and that takes a cell phone or some other radio. The press (as usual) is guilty of spreading the misperceptions about GPS because they often use "GPS" as a catch-all term for GPS AND Transmitter.

Thin Black Line
February 28, 2006, 03:04 PM
Whew, thanks, guys, it looks like that this is probably BS after all.

Next thing you know someone will say that the entire nation can
switch over to full-size automobiles that run on batteries.

Maybe I should be working today....

c_yeager
February 28, 2006, 03:15 PM
Until they can shrink a battery, a GPS reciever, and a cell phone or other suitable transmitter down to the size of a small caliber bullet, it's fantasy.


Even if they did accomplish this feat there is still one nagging little issue. In order to push an object the size of a small bullet at a high enough velocity to accuratly penetrate the skin of a target at range you would have to push it at the energy equivalent of a typical small bullet. Thats not gonna feel like a mosquito bite, its gonna feel like your getting shot.

The whole concept doesnt really work since it is impossible to control penetration like that. Lets say you magically figured out a way of firing a projectile at the exact speed necessary to nestle it under a persons skin at 300 yards, at 200 yards your looking at a fatal weapon, and at 350 its useless.

Ramius
March 1, 2006, 11:09 PM
This Urban ledgend has been around a while, for some interesting reading search for RFID or Rifle on www.snopes.com

Also there was some debunking in a book I recomend "Spychips: How Major Corporations and Government plan to track your every move with RFID chips"

They have a web site, http://www.spychips.com/

Nothing firearm related in the book, but some scary stuff anyway, and well documented.

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