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p35bhp09
February 28, 2006, 12:39 PM
I am currently watching an episode of Mcgyver and not five minutes ago he got into an anti gun debate with someone on the show. They were in a gun factory that was making ak-47s. The 2nd ammendment came up and he said that he doubted these guns were going to the national guard. Said he had a problem with babies getting shot in their cribs and such. Anyway, I did an net check and Richard Dean Anderson's name came up along with a very long list of celebrities who are supposedly anti gun. Now I'm not doubting that but I was curious if any of them are staunch, vocal anti-gunners. Not just on the list for being at an event connected to gun control. Several of my favorite actors popped up and I want to know who's not going to be getting my $10.00 movie admission. Anyone know who the real anti's are in Hollywood?
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BigRobT
February 28, 2006, 12:47 PM
Richard Dean Anderson pretty much lost my attention when he started a rant on some stargate sg1 feature about the making of SG1. He is very anti-gun. His being from rural Minnesota really surprises me as the majority of people around his hometown are pretty pro gun and avid hunters. During the feature, he went off with his anti-gun rhetoric and I was just flabbergasted. I knew he was an anti, but to see it captured on video and the broadcast on the TV just made me angry. I'm not sure when these "hollyweird" types are going to learn to just keep their mouths shut when it comes to political or constitutional issues. If they want to say something, don't incorporate into a video that has nothing to do with the issue. ESPECIALLY when the SG1 uses a LOT of cool guns!!

tenbase
February 28, 2006, 12:54 PM
I think it would be easier to compile a list of who isn't an anti in Hollywood.

BigRobT
February 28, 2006, 12:57 PM
After doing a quick search on Google, I FINALLY found "the list". It list companies and people that are anti-gun.

http://www.pinkpistols.org/antigun.html

hayseed
February 28, 2006, 01:07 PM
Good for you, but if that's your criteria, I don't think you'll darken the door of a theater again. I don't, and I don't miss it. Not so much for that reason, but almost all movies now are dumbed down frat-boy pap.

I think it's time to stop paying attention to celebrities and weather they're pro or anti, what a waste of time. 99.99% of celebrities are anti anyway. The ones that are pro are for the most part obscure or has-beens. Although we should support those who are openly pro.

I get a kick out of how some get so giddy when they hear that "X famous person" owns a gun or hunts. For those who havn't figured it out, all antis are just fine with guns, as long as they're in their own hands or those of their bodyguards. Examples of this abound. (Sean Penn in NOLA, anyone?)

MudPuppy
February 28, 2006, 01:42 PM
We should ban guns from MOVIES. Those hollywood freaks would get a kick in their wallets from the loss of sales so hard they'd lobby to arm everyone outside of **********!

Maxwell
February 28, 2006, 01:58 PM
We should ban guns from MOVIES.

+1

If you think about it, alot of modern day rkba troubles stem from the misrepresentation of guns in movies. If theres any place weapons should be banned from it should be the movies. It would be hyppiecritical of any actor to denounce individuals who keep arms for personal protection while they themselves have armed bodyguards and play the roles of armed charachters.

If your an anti-gun, you shouldnt use firearms to make a buck.

XavierBreath
February 28, 2006, 02:19 PM
The NRA's Anti-Gun Organization and Celebrity List. (http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15)

Fire1
February 28, 2006, 02:36 PM
+1, Hayseed.

I can't remember the last movie I saw in a theater, and I don't miss it one bit.

I'm always amazed that the majority of the American public is stupid enough to think that the political views of someone who makes a living pretending to be someone else have any more validity then people who make an honest living. It makes me sick. :barf:

Banning guns from movies would be a great start to ending the movie industry as a whole. Our country would be so much better off if we would spend a lot less money and time sitting our fat butts in a dark room with 100 strangers doing nothing for 2 hours. What a waste. :cuss:

Vex
February 28, 2006, 02:36 PM
I don't ask the cashier at McDonald's of his/her opinion on RKBA before I order, and the same with celebrities. If they're not making a fuss about it in the news, then I don't care.

Perfect example is Kate Hudson. When she made the anti-American remarks about the boysterious, ketchup eating yankees in Paris, I hated her, and I won't see any movie with her in it. Sean Penn, on the other hand, was roaming the streets of NOLA with a shotgun, and in my mind, that seems pretty cool. Another example, Patrick Stewart doesn't run around on the news talking smack about Bush, guns, war, etc, so I don't care what he thinks before I see a movie.

My point is I think people are entitled to their own opinion in life and work, and if they don't share openly, I'm not going to go out of my way to find out what it is.

boofus
February 28, 2006, 02:50 PM
Now that Star Wars is done I don't foresee myself wasting $7.50 to line the pockets of gun grabbing hypocrites ever again.

Manedwolf
February 28, 2006, 02:55 PM
Now that Star Wars is done I don't foresee myself wasting $7.50 to line the pockets of gun grabbing hypocrites ever again.

I certainly did for "Serenity". :D

And will for any sequels it might have...Definitely can't call THAT one anti-gun!

MS .45
February 28, 2006, 03:02 PM
Its disappointing about Anderson. I am abig fan of the Stargate series. If I am not mistaken, he directs the show. In the series, SG1 provides weapons to various groups that they consider friendly. I wonder how he squares this with an anti-gun stance.

BigRobT
February 28, 2006, 03:04 PM
My point is I think people are entitled to their own opinion in life and work, and if they don't share openly, I'm not going to go out of my way to find out what it is.

I don't go snooping into people's politics on the whole. It's really none of my business. However, when an actor/actress, cries out absurd remarks, they have made themselves public about their views. If their views seriously conflict with mine, I won't rent, buy, or own anything by them. Two good examples are, The Dixie Chicks, and Johnny Depp. Both have made inane comments disparaging the very country that gave them their fame and fortune.

MS.45, I've often wondered that myself. Or even the simple fact that they USE these weapons in their show. How can one be anti-gun and portray a person that uses them as the tools they're meant to be??

Lobotomy Boy
February 28, 2006, 03:04 PM
That list is disturbing, but I still think I'd pop the $10 to see Rebecca De Mornay's sweet brown yodel patch on the big screen (at an AMC theater, with my Glock 26 on my belt).

V4Vendetta
February 28, 2006, 03:29 PM
"ESPECIALLY when the SG1 uses a LOT of cool guns!!"


That's what I think. SG1 has all kinds of laser blasters & explosives. I call that hypocrasy. I also stopped watching "Macguyver" a long time ago. I found out that they took ingrediants out of the show so you couldn't really learn any neat stuff.:mad:

DonP
February 28, 2006, 04:03 PM
You can refer to this as "Petersen's Corollary" from now on.

"The more likely a hollywood star is to use guns to make their name in film, the more likely they will disavow anything to do with the same tools they continue to use to achieve fame and fortune".

Examples:
Sean Penn
Arnold
Stallone
Richard Dean Anderson
etc.

A matching one, also known as the "Rosie O'Donnel Theorem" would be:

"The more likely a hollywood star is to have armed private security to protect themselves, their home and their family, the more likely they will be to deny others the right to defend themselves and their family with a gun."

gometika
February 28, 2006, 04:22 PM
Those are very good lists. From actors to CEOs. But I betcha majority of those on these lists rely on firearms for protection whether in their person or with their bodyguards. Hollywood is just nothing more than a make believe world of fantasy where the players are nothing more than a bunch of hyprocrites, totally detached from the real world, who thinks they are above the common person. I'd like to see the looks on their faces when they are face to face with their maker.

TequilaMockingbird
February 28, 2006, 04:36 PM
Two good examples are, The Dixie Chicks, and Johnny Depp. Both have made inane comments disparaging the very country that gave them their fame and fortune.

On March 10, 2003, during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq (which would take place on March 20), Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks stated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks) during a concert in London that the band was "ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas."

She made disparaging remarks about the president - NOT the country.

Do you see the difference?

cookekdjr
February 28, 2006, 04:50 PM
Now that even the GOP is ashamed of W, the Dixie Chicks flap seems kinda silly, doesn't it.
RE: celebrity gun-grabbers, I think alot of those folks are just ill-informed. They see the correllation of guns in the home to child deaths from guns, they go to Europe and see lower crime rates (and assume its because guns are less available) and the anti-gun rhetoric starts to make sense.
I think if alot of these folks realized that gun ownership was a freedom issue (freedom from the Gov't and freedom to protect one's own family), they would feel differently. Especially if the subject of bodyguards came up...
-David

KriegHund
February 28, 2006, 04:59 PM
I was unsurprised when i first heard richard dean anderson was anti-gun.

Most actors are. Either way, i still enjoy watching SG-1. The new episodes and the old.

Helmetcase
February 28, 2006, 05:27 PM
Do you see the difference?
Why do you hate America so much, TequilaMockingbird? :neener: :D :D :)

Stickjockey
February 28, 2006, 05:28 PM
:evil:

I just tried to get on the Pink Pistols antigun celebrity list and the company's net nanny blocked it, citing "criminal skills" as the reason.

:evil:

KriegHund
February 28, 2006, 05:35 PM
I just tried to get on the Pink Pistols antigun celebrity list and the company's net nanny blocked it, citing "criminal skills" as the reason.

Rofl :neener:

JesseJames
February 28, 2006, 07:00 PM
Well, most people in the media and the arts are of the liberal set. Strange how that is huh?
I'm one of the strange ones I guess. I am a graphic artist by training but I like to think I'm more of the Old School Republicans; Progressive Republican perhaps. I am a registered Independent. I don't like what the Republican Party has become today.
The Liberal Arts folks are just inured and trained to think that way at the colleges that they go to. When their minds are supposedly being "expanded" they are really being brainwashed into believing that the military is evil, guns are evil, hunting is barbaric, blah blah blah. Total hogwash.
I still don't understand how a rational person lobbies for animal rights? I find the notion of animals having rights downright laughably odd if not bizarre. It just smacks of a generation of people who are fed on Disney and the modern food culture where everything is available at the supermarket in shrinkwrap and boxes. Being totally separated from the raising and slaughtering of livestock.
I guess my early childhood helped me from becoming one of them. My uncle lived out in the country. He was a retired Army Colonel and he loved to go hunting and fishing. I'd go fishing with my cousin just about every time I went over to his house. Although I never actually got to go hunting with him I did see an eviscerated deer carcass that he brought home in the back of the stationwagon after a hunt. My young mind was like "Whooaaaa". I'd also see wild turkey legs in the backyard where they cleaned the birds after a hunt.
So, it was part of the family life. And I loved it.
My cousin got a 12 gauge shotgun for his 10th birthday. There were guns all over the house. It was just part of life. No big deal.
I ached for the same thing but my father was a typical suburbanite. No desire to do the outdoor thing; he had no objections to hunting and guns though.
So it was quite a shock to go into the "Art world" and see how people were so against guns and hunting and all. In fact, I was somewhat disgusted with their ignorant attitude. For some open-minded worldly people they sure were ignorant on a lot of things.
There is good reason why the old stereotype of crazy artists exists. Because most art people are lunatics or borderline lunatics. You guys have no idea. Geez. :uhoh: :rolleyes::D

TequilaMockingbird
February 28, 2006, 09:50 PM
Why do you hate America so much, TequilaMockingbird?

Guess I'm just a hateful, ornery, selfish, anti-government extremist...

I still don't understand how a rational person lobbies for animal rights?

I agree with Mama bear on this one. (http://www.thenewyorkerstore.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=WTVA04SLT64U9L0EK67JBBB4XVW37KH9&sitetype=1&did=4&sid=30162&pid=&keyword=animal+rights&section=prints&title=undefined&whichpage=5&sortBy=popular)

But honestly, check out the book Dominion: The Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy by Matthew Scully. Scully is a conservative Christian, journalist and former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, and has written the very best book I have seen abotu animal welfare.

antsi
February 28, 2006, 11:32 PM
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I don't ask the cashier at McDonald's of his/her opinion on RKBA before I order, and the same with celebrities. If they're not making a fuss about it in the news, then I don't care.
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Fine, but if they are actively campaigning against RKBA (ex: Rosie O'Donnell) then they have earned my ire and I will go out of my way to avoid purchasing/viewing/otherwise supporting anything they stand to make a dollar off of.

Lobotomy Boy
February 28, 2006, 11:51 PM
Fine, but if they are actively campaigning against RKBA (ex: Rosie O'Donnell) then they have earned my ire and I will go out of my way to avoid purchasing/viewing/otherwise supporting anything they stand to make a dollar off of.

I'll still drop $10 to go see Rebecca De Mornay, but I'm willing to compromise. I promise not to spend one penny in an AMC theater to go see Rosie O'Donnell's yodel patch.

lamazza
March 1, 2006, 03:03 AM
Now I's like to see another list of how many of those phoneys actually own guns themselves or hire people to protect them with guns...

joab
March 1, 2006, 03:17 AM
Sean Penn, on the other hand, was roaming the streets of NOLA with a shotgun, and in my mind, that seems pretty cool. Even though he is has aligned himself with anti-gun organizations and has been vocal in his support of their agenda?

Helmetcase
March 1, 2006, 07:32 AM
Getting upset about what celebrities think about anything is pointless. You're talking about people who operate in their own bizarre little fishbowl and have the fabulous wealth to be able to easily afford to distance themselves from reality. This goes for celebs on ALL sides of the political spectrum.

Just do what I do, use that "ignore" button in your head. Frankly I couldn't care less who Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie are ????ing today. ;)

dpesec
March 1, 2006, 08:32 AM
Vex,
I agree I don't ask, but I do look on the door for a "no Guns allowed" sign. If i see it I refuse to go in. In my area the McDonald's have them so I refuse to buy their products.

Manedwolf
March 1, 2006, 10:11 AM
>>I agree I don't ask, but I do look on the door for a "no Guns allowed" sign. If i see it I refuse to go in. In my area the McDonald's have them so I refuse to buy their products.

The food will kill you, and they don't want you to be able to armed to defend yourself against it? :D

cookekdjr
March 1, 2006, 10:47 AM
So it was quite a shock to go into the "Art world" and see how people were so against guns and hunting and all. In fact, I was somewhat disgusted with their ignorant attitude. For some open-minded worldly people they sure were ignorant on a lot of things.
There is good reason why the old stereotype of crazy artists exists. Because most art people are lunatics or borderline lunatics. You guys have no idea. Geez.

Well, I got a fair idea. BFA degree in Art/Art Ed. from UGA, 1992. I guess part of the "University Experience" is meeting the narrow-minded folks on the left...after growing up around narrow-minded folks on the right. Many of our students needed exposure to the left-wing. They were born rich (just the way God had intended ;) ) were studying business to stay rich, and couldn't imagine a world where God's special rich kids from suburban Atlanta didn't rule the universe. Anybody who wasn't rich obviously didn't care enough to get their MBA, so it must be their own fault if they were poor.
Then you had the idiots in the Art and Education departments who assumed I was one of God's special people, and wondered WTH I was doing in their classes. I will say MOST of the education professors had common sense, although a few were looney. The art professors were really good at art...but didn't know jack about politics. I once got a "C" b/c I made disparaging remarks about Jesse Jackson.
Its the open-minded folks on the left and the right you learn the most from. Folks who know both sides, and make a reasonable choice one way or the other...

V4Vendetta
March 1, 2006, 12:20 PM
"I still don't understand how a rational person lobbies for animal rights? "


:eek: I must have misunderstood that remark. I firmly believe that hunters should be able to hunt as long as they don't just shoot the deer for fun. They have to have it cleaned & eat the meat. That way you hunters don't wipe out the buffalo like you did back during the days of Indians & the West.

Art Eatman
March 1, 2006, 12:30 PM
Wrong analogy, V4Vendetta: "That way you hunters don't wipe out the buffalo like you did back during the days of Indians & the West."

The wipeout was official U.S. Government policy to "destroy the commisary of the Plains Indian". It wasn't hunters as hunters as we know them today.

No game animal is endangered by hunting. None. Where there actually is a problem with a lessening in numbers of any game species, it's due to a loss of habitat from these Hollywood types (and others, obviously) moving into formerly open spaces.

Art

JesseJames
March 1, 2006, 02:03 PM
Where there actually is a problem with a lessening in numbers of any game species, it's due to a loss of habitat from these Hollywood types (and others, obviously) moving into formerly open spaces.

So true Art Eatman, so true.

Gordon Fink
March 1, 2006, 02:10 PM
Oh, animals surely have rights, but Im hungry.

~G. Fink

JesseJames
March 1, 2006, 02:36 PM
Does that mean Bambi and Thumper have the right to be delicious?:neener: :D

JesseJames
March 1, 2006, 02:53 PM
Let me also add that it was conservationists like Teddy Roosevelt that realized that American hunters needed ethics.
He saw the slaughtering that was happening to the big game of the West and started the Boone and Crockett Club to help stop it.
People need to see the difference between legal hunting and poaching.

Teddy Roosevelt. A TRULY Great American.

Lobotomy Boy
March 1, 2006, 02:57 PM
That way you hunters don't wipe out the buffalo like you did back during the days of Indians & the West.

Hey, I had nothing to do with that.

I do, however, have to plead guilty to shooting animals for fun. I can't imagine anything that is more fun shooting a wily old whitetail buck, except maybe yodeling in Rebecca De Mornay's cellar. I shoot them, and then I gut them, skin them, butcher them, and eat them, which is somewhat less fun then shooting them, at least the gutting, cleaning, and butchering part, which is a hell of a lot of work. Eating them is usually pretty fun, though, as is cooking them.

If it makes you feel any better about the fact that I have fun hunting, then imagine that I shed a tear after each kill, followed by a ceremony in which I eat their livers raw and go into a fecalform bacteria-induced trance during which I escort their noble spirits to the happy hunting ground.

V4Vendetta
March 1, 2006, 03:04 PM
"I shoot them, and then I gut them, skin them, butcher them, and eat them, which is somewhat less fun then shooting them, at least the gutting, cleaning, and butchering part, which is a hell of a lot of work. Eating them is usually pretty fun, though, as is cooking them."


That I don't mind. I object to those who simply shoot the deer and leave it out in the woods to rot with perfectly good meat on it. What you do is all right with me according to what you described. They only animals I'd shoot without using their meat are the following.

1. Snakes. Do I really even need to explain this one?:rolleyes:
2. Sharks. See above.
3. Possums. They carry rabies & can get mean.
4. Racoons. See #3.
5. Stray animals. See #3. If they look all right, I may leave them be. It depends.

insurgent
March 1, 2006, 03:12 PM
Not only is Richard Dean Anderson just anti like much of FollyWood...he apparently was on the Board of Directors of Hangun Control, Inc. :barf:

OK, I admit it, I still watch SG1 too :evil:

Gordon Fink
March 1, 2006, 04:50 PM
But sharks are delicious!

~G. Fink

V4Vendetta
March 1, 2006, 05:22 PM
"But sharks are delicious!"


I heard that their liver contains toxic amounts of vitamin A. Polar bears too.

Manedwolf
March 1, 2006, 05:36 PM
Double post, delete please

Manedwolf
March 1, 2006, 05:37 PM
They only animals I'd shoot without using their meat are the following.

5. Stray animals. See #3. If they look all right, I may leave them be. It depends.

The best dog I ever had was a stray, an incredibly intelligent shepherd/lab cross who wandered up to me in a parking lot and stuck next to me, never wanting to go anywhere but. He was apparently about four at the time. I had him for ten years till the typical end of old age.

What reason would you have to shoot at a stray that wasn't threatening anyone? There's hunting for food and trophies, and then there's sheer motiveless cruelty. And honestly, if I saw someone taking potshots at harmless strays (that might be someone's lost, loved pet) for fun, I'd kick their posterior pretty damned hard.

Carl N. Brown
March 1, 2006, 05:49 PM
Celebrities do not think, they feel, which makes them
superior to those who think. Feeeelings, oh oh oh, Feeeelings.

V4Vendetta
March 1, 2006, 06:06 PM
"What reason would you have to shoot at a stray that wasn't threatening anyone?"

I don't have one. I was talking about the strays that were dangerous. I once had to shoot a stray cat that killed some of our kittens & chickens:mad: . 1 shot of 00 buck took care of the problem.

middy
March 1, 2006, 06:52 PM
Lobotomy Boy, do you realize that every post of yours in this thread references "Rebecca De Mornay" and "yodel(ing)"? :scrutiny: :D

Carl N. Brown
March 1, 2006, 07:18 PM
Runaway Train? Great movie. Don't remember any yodeling.

Lobotomy Boy
March 1, 2006, 07:28 PM
Lobotomy Boy, do you realize that every post of yours in this thread references "Rebecca De Mornay" and "yodel(ing)"?


I'm glad someone is paying attention.

joab
March 1, 2006, 07:36 PM
1. Snakes. Do I really even need to explain this one? ..Yes
Why would you shoot a snake for the fun of it? Is it because you are ignorant of the ecosystem or just because they're icky?

progunner1957
March 1, 2006, 09:54 PM
Runaway Train? Great movie. Don't remember any yodeling.
I think he was referring to, ahem, "Nature's Brillo Pad.":D
I promise not to spend one penny in an AMC theater to go see Rosie O'Donnell's yodel patch.Just the thought makes me almost go blind...:barf: :barf: :barf:

lamazza
March 2, 2006, 01:59 AM
I don't feel a need to kill or hurt any living thing unless I need to eat it or defend myself agaisnt it.

zastros
March 2, 2006, 02:30 AM
"But sharks are delicious!"


I heard that their liver contains toxic amounts of vitamin A. Polar bears too.

Sharks have polar bears in their liver?!?! We should kill them just to put them out of their misery. And why do they all sound like Robert DeNiro when they talk? I think they're just asking for it. :scrutiny:

Zundfolge
March 2, 2006, 02:31 AM
So it was quite a shock to go into the "Art world" and see how people were so against guns and hunting and all.

I haven't played guitar in years because I got tired of spending my time in the company of musicians ... the vast majority of which are hard leftist nit wits (and no, I'm not going to play country music just to get away from the leftists ... rather not play at all).

I used to enjoy art galleries too, but now can't stand to be in one because its 99% hard leftist propaganda.

What strikes me as funny (and sad) is that most artists, musicians, actors and film makers (people who's livelihood and meaning for existence are heavily steeped in individualism, individual expression, etc) embrace hard leftist/socialist/"progressive" ideals ... ideals that if they come to power require the complete elimination of individualism. :rolleyes:




Now something that I find annoying is that I can find a dozen ... hell dozens ... of pro RKBA web sites with "Anti-Gun Celebrities" and "Anti-Gun Companies/Organizations" lists, but I can't find ONE with a decent "Pro RKBA Celebrities" and/or "Pro RKBA Companies/Organizations" list.

Instead of trying to boycott all the antis, I'd rather try to throw my support behind those entertainers that don't go out of their way to offend me.

DRZinn
March 2, 2006, 04:20 AM
A year or two ago, some asked Kid Rock at a pre-whatever-useless-celebrity-party it was (I think the Oscars) what he thought of the War in Iraq. His response?

"Do you hear George Bush sitting around telling you you make sh---ty records???"

Lobotomy Boy
March 2, 2006, 10:06 AM
I don't feel a need to kill or hurt any living thing unless I need to eat it or defend myself agaisnt it.

I do. My dad has an infestation of squirrels that have been raising hell with his bird feeders. I feel the need to kill as many of them as possible when I go visit him tomorrow.

V4Vendetta
March 2, 2006, 11:09 AM
To the guy who asked my why I'd kill a snake on sight: Because they serve no purpose to me, look evil & can kill me. Those are 3 traits I don't see in a friendship. Some folks say that snakes help us out by killing rodents. My cats do that & they are more cuddly to me.

To the guy who thought that sharks had polar bears in their livers: I meant that Polar bears have a toxic amount of vitamin A in their livers. Sharks do to.

cbsbyte
March 2, 2006, 03:07 PM
I know for a fact that the NRA anti list is outdated and incorrect. For example AeroSmith is listed as anti but they are in fact pro gun.

Diamondback
March 2, 2006, 05:21 PM
"The more likely a Hollywood star is to have armed private security to protect themselves, their home and their family, the more likely they will be to deny others the right to defend themselves and their family with a gun."

.....it is this hypocrisy that I find intolerable....those that would deny the right to bear arms to others while they hire private armed security to protect themselves !

-Regards

Jeff
March 2, 2006, 08:35 PM
Pro-gun celebrities:

I believe that Ed Begley, Jr and Alan Alda have some of the largest private collections of full-automatic weaponry, including the infamous GE mini-guns. They reportedly get together some weekends and vaporize the junk cars rusting in Alda's backyard, while powering down cases of Warsteiner and buckets of spicy pulled pork.









:)

joab
March 2, 2006, 09:29 PM
To the guy who asked my why I'd kill a snake on sight: Because they serve no purpose to me, look evil & can kill me.This coming from the guy that made the statement about hunters wiping out buffalo

So it's both. You are ignorant and you find them all icky.
You need to butch up and educate your self a little

LawDog
March 2, 2006, 10:02 PM
I really don't thik the comments about Ms. De Mornay's anatomy are The High Road, not are they something I wish to explain to my 8 year-old nieces.

Light out.

LawDog

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