New grandson, what guns?


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jaysouth
March 1, 2006, 12:27 AM
Just got word of a new grandson this morning. 7 lbs, 10 oz. born 0550 in Frankfurt, Germany.

I have a couple of guns in the safe for his older brother, now 4. What should I buy this one? I am thinking of another glock 19 and maybe a ruger 22/45.

I intend to buy .22 rifles but just haven't found anything that grabs me yet.

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MSgt B
March 1, 2006, 01:00 AM
Year before last, I bought my son his first rifle.

I picked up one of those Romanian .22 trainers flooding the market for DIRT CHEAP. Talk about abused.:eek:

Before he ever fired the rifle, we spent about 2 months working on it together. We took the rifle down to it's individual components, cleaned and refinished the stock, and cleaned and re-blued all the metal parts.

Once we had it up to speed, we took it out to the range and tested it and spent some time tuning in the sights. (They were off about an inch to the left @ 50 yds)

I know he will always have that rifle, and he will be able to repair any part of it that breaks. (He literally knows it inside and out now) I can only hope that many years from now he will look upon that rifle and have fond memories of the time we spent together, bringing that old rifle back to life and learning the art of the firearm.

MSgt B
March 1, 2006, 01:02 AM
May you have many good days ahead with your grandchild.

FLORES425
March 1, 2006, 01:10 AM
You know my first rifle was a good ole 22 marlin semi auto. I had so much fun hunting and target shooting with that gun. It is basic and you can find them anywhere.Congrats on the grandchild. My wife and I are expecting any day now.




FLORES
ROSWELL NM:fire:
30-06ADL
MAG TECH 12ga
22 marlin
cva 50cal
44 MAG.:what:

ReadyontheRight
March 1, 2006, 01:20 AM
Every new human being deserves a .357 wheelgun. Preferably a Ruger GP100, but as Grandfather...you make the call.

Oh... and a single-shot .22, 20ga and as much time as possible walking around in the woods with Grandpa and one of the above guns as humanly possible.

Congrats man! Get 'em a gun....any gun...and spend time showing him how to use it! And more importantly how to be a Man in the process.:)

'Card
March 1, 2006, 01:52 AM
Congrats on the new grandchild!

A lot of firearms companies do 'special runs' of a particular gun for just one year. For example, this year Remington released a limited-run version of their 7600 pump rifle in .30-06 commemorating the 100th anniversary of the .30-06 cartridge. Winchester released a limited-run single-shot Model 1885 "High Wall Hunter" for the .30-06 centennial. Browning has an engraved BAR Safari Mark II in .30-06 for the 100th anniversary.

Those are just three examples I can think of off the top of my head, but pretty much all of the major gun companies do one or two of these limited-run promotional things every year. I'm sure if you looked around and asked you could find one that interested you. I don't personally think there's a lot of collector's value in these types of guns, but I think it'd be pretty neat to hand your grandson a rifle on his 18th birthday and say "They only made them like this the year when you were born."

PlayboyPenguin
March 1, 2006, 02:30 AM
I would go with ReadyontheRight's suggestion. Buy him a nice .357 like a GP100 with the 6" barrel. Show it to him as he grows but never use it and present it to him when he is of age. That way he gets a classic in brand new condition and the fact it has been in his papaw's possession for so long will make it even more special. You can always pick him up a .22 marlin for very little money at anytime. :)

Ala Dan
March 1, 2006, 03:35 AM
and why not save him a classic 1911, such as Les Baer's Thunder
Ranch Special~!:uhoh: Better get one before the price increase.:D

Zen21Tao
March 1, 2006, 04:05 AM
I agree that a .22 is the way to go. I have a Feather AT22 that I absolutely love. Mine was made prior to the 94 ban and has a collapsable stock. I know the ban caused them to make a fized stock model. I don't know wether or not they are making the collapable stocks again. At any rate, check them out at www.featherusa.com. They also have alot of great tacticool upgrades you can add.

DonP
March 1, 2006, 10:07 AM
That boy needs a Marlin model 60 .22 semi auto, maybe a couple of them. One to beat up while he's learning to shoot and another for when he hits 21 or so to replace the beat up one he passes on to his kids.

Put it in the safe for him right after you break it in with a few thousand rounds. Then he can pass it on to his grandkids and well into the next century it will still be cranking rounds downrange.

Thefabulousfink
March 1, 2006, 12:34 PM
I am sorry, but I cannot be a party to any "what claiber for new grandkids" threads.:fire:


JK, I am patial to the Henery lever actions, a good starter rifle and looks good too.

shermacman
March 1, 2006, 12:51 PM
Get him a CMP M-1 Garand before they are all gone. Put it away until he is adult enough to go bangbangbangbangbangbangbangbangPING! It is an investment in so many ways!

mainmech48
March 1, 2006, 02:18 PM
Congratulations!

A few kid-sized options that've worked well for me:

Chipmunk .22: perfect size for kids 5-6 and up. Requires manual cocking, which is a good idea,IMO. Good, simple sights. Rear is "peep" aperture type.

Savage "Cub" .22: Another little single shot with some nice features. Cocks on opening, manual safety. Very good sights, aperture rear.

Ruger New Bearcat .22: Perfect choice to start kids in handgunning, IMO. Simple manual of arms with visual "ready" status. Having to repeat each step whether loading, clearing empties, or firing for every round helps with familiarization and gives the teaching process a more easily managed pace. which also presents more coaching opportunities. Size, weight and balance just right for youngsters.

Personally, I favor waiting until the child demonstrates a firm grasp of the fundamental safety rules and basic marksmanship skills before adding repeaters, manual or semi-auto, into the mix.

El Tejon
March 1, 2006, 02:28 PM
Hey, how about 8 year olds?:D

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=186287

bowfin
March 1, 2006, 03:32 PM
I second the Chipmunk .22 rifle (or similar). The stock size will have him shooting accurately years before he grows into a standard sized .22 rifle.

kennyboy
March 1, 2006, 04:49 PM
I'd say .50BMG Armalite and/or Barrett rifles. A .470, .500, .600, and .700 Nitro Express chambered rifles are ideal for a youngster for casual plinking or light hunting. Perhaps a .460 and/or .500 S&W revovers. The BFRs are also nice. Any of these guns are great for a baby.:D

Just kidding. The Henry .22 Accubolt is a great gun for starting. It is well made and not too expensive. The 10/22 is also an option. For handguns, a Ruger MKIII and/or Bearcat revolver is suitable. Basically any .22 will do fine. It just depends what you want the gun used for.

Zen21Tao
March 1, 2006, 08:12 PM
How about an AR15 with a supressed .22 upper mounted to a wheel barrow that can shoot out to 500 yards. :D :D :D

sorry, I've been reading the thread about this Gunkid character and couldn't help myself. :evil:

stevelyn
March 1, 2006, 08:55 PM
Jaysouth and El T you're in luck.:D :D

It just so happens that some useful idiots in the enemy camp has compiled a list that takes a lot of the work out of finding that perfect gun for a young relative.

The enemy camp can be found at the following grid coordinates http://www.vpc.org/studies/22ap.htm

You might want to send them an e-mail thanking them for their hard work. I have a couple of times and noticed the site is still up anyway.:D :evil:

BTW the main link has some photos of yoots enjoying their guns. http://www.vpc.org/studies/22cont.htm

Zen21Tao
March 1, 2006, 09:42 PM
While not a comprehensive collection of all youth guns available, it illustrates the scope of the effort by the gun industry to market firearms to children.

LOL..... Gun industry marketing to childern. That's quite funny considering that childern are not legally able to buy guns. The truth is that gun manufacturors are marketing to THE PARENTS of children. There is nothing wrong with this. Parents are going to be with their kids supervising them when they are shooting and parents are going to be teaching their kids proper gun safety. Parents aren't just going to toss the kid a gun and say "ok now run off an play with your firends."

kart racer
March 1, 2006, 10:31 PM
A p22 fits small hands great..a 1911 w/a 22 conversion would be nice.Also a nice pellet/bb gun to start with.My son started shooting at 6 and now he's eight and shoots the 10/22 like there's no tomorrow.CONGRATS on the grandchildren.:)PS classic arms has some 22 trainer rifles I think from czech. that are nice for cheap,they're bolt actions.

cortez kid
March 2, 2006, 08:06 AM
To be honest, I'm having a fit bouncing between wanting my grandkids (four boys) to stay babies and wanting them to hurry up and get older. I have it in mind to get a Henry lever action and Heritage .22 as a starting rig. Grandpa has a load of .44's, .357's and 500's for later in life. The oldest is just 4 though. Can I live that long, waiting?
kid

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