[JesseJames]

I've been shooting Hornady ammo almost exclusively through my rifles and have had good results. But it is expensive.
I've been looking into cheaper alternatives without resorting to handloading.
Is PMC ammunition any good?
Either way I will give it a try.

[Shipwreck]

I've shot it for years - never had any problems with it. A few years ago, however, they stopped carrying it at any shops in my area, so I have since moved onto WWB and CCI Blazer. But, I would still shoot PMC if it was here.

[Bartholomew Roberts]

I went through about 4k of PMC .223 ammo. Very accurate suprisingly; but underpowered and would short stroke semi-autos about 3/1000.

[Old Fuff]

Industry rumor has it that PMC is discontinuing its business in the United States, and has sold its ammunition manufacturing equipment to a buyer in St. Louis, MO. Hopefully production will continue from there, probably under a new name.

[rbernie]

Frankly, I've had best results for factory practice ammo with Remington green box CoreLokt kinda stuff. Seems to work OK in just about everything that I own, and I can get it pretty cheaply at a couple of different sporting goods stores.

[444]

I would consider PMC ammo to be among the worst of the factory ammo. And, I have shot a lot of it.
A couple examples. At Gunsite, if you sign up for a class and buy the ammo for the class from them, you get PMC. In Basic Carbine, I had a failure to fire. I did my immediate action drill which resulted in the bullet coming out of the case and filling the action of my rifle with powder. I had a miserable time until I could clean that out at lunch time.
In a more recent class at Frontsight, I had numerous failures to fire with what appeared to be good solid strikes on the primer. The instructor told me that it wasn't unusual with PMC ammo.
I am a handloader. And, I handload a lot of PMC brass. In fact, last night I was handling some .223 which was mostly PMC. Almost all of the primer pockets are drilled WAY off center in PMC brass.
Not that anybody asked but prior to me ever attending a formal shooting school I fired a lot of Wolf ammo in practice. I fired a couple cases of Wolf to get tuned up for Gunsite Basic Carbine. Never had the slightest issue with it. At Gunsite, we got a lecture about how it was imporatant to use "good" ammo and what a waste it would be to pay all that money to attend a week long, out of town class only to have it ruined by using bad ammo. The next class I took, I used Wolf and never had a problem of any kind. I shot the high score for the class by a wide margin and won the man on man shoot off. I also hit about 75% on pepper poppers at 400 yards from prone with an Aimpoint using Wolf ammo. The Gunsite instructors are right, don't use PMC. Wolf is better and is half the cost. And, this was back in the days of the laquered cases with Wolf. 12k rounds later I haven't changed my mind.

As far as PMC being sold and closing/moving, I hadn't heard that. The factory is local to me here and I drive right past their driveway on the way to work. Maybe I am out of the loop but I would have thought I would have heard about them going out of business if they were ?

[JesseJames]

Hmmm. I've heard some mixed things about Wolf ammo but overall it has been very good. I will most definitely give them a try.
I assume that Wolf ammo is manufactured outside of the US?
Although I'd like to save some bucks, I'd also like to support US manufacturers.
Maybe Remington?

[Red Tornado]

I haven't tried it in an autoloader, but my Savage .223 (Model 12 Heavy Barrel) loves the stuff. I was under MOA with the cheap PMC(~$4.50), and the PMC Silver(~$11) was about .5 inches.

Unfortunately, I can't find it anymore.

I never had any failure to fire in my bolt action, but if you're using an AR variant, I can't help you.

For my rifle, I'll buy it whenever I can find it.

FWIW, Wolf was grouping over 3" in my rifle. 444 is the first person I've heard of getting good accuracy with it, but I've also never had Wolf fail to fire.
RT

[ArmedBear]

I've used PMC .223 in a Mini-14 and it works well. Less noise and muzzle flash than milsurp Federal 5.56, which is nice inddors.

Their .22LR Sidewinder (hi vel) and Scoremaster (std vel) ammo is great if your gun likes unplated lead.

I've shot their 9mm, too, without any trouble.

I haven't tried it in my .30-06 sporter but that's because I'm still looking for one good hunting round to sight in and stock up on. I have no desire to plink with it.

[Drakejake]

I have shot quite a bit of PMC in .45. It worked fine but was dirty.

Drakejake

[JohnKSa]

Black Hills is a pretty good balance of quality & price. Selection is limited.

[444]

"FWIW, Wolf was grouping over 3" in my rifle. 444 is the first person I've heard of getting good accuracy with it, but I've also never had Wolf fail to fire."

This is where you have to define "good accuracy".
I have never fired Wolf from a bench for a group on paper. I am talking about defensive carbine classes and defensive carbine drills. We are talking about hitting a target the size of a human torso in the center chest area (the "A" zone or center of mass). In either of those two classes I mentioned, the longest shot on paper was 200 meters. At 200 meters the "A" zone would be something like 3 MOA. If you could put every one of your shots inside a six inch circle at 200 yards, you would have a perfect score at the 200 yard line. If you were actually using your carbine in a defensive situation, you would have an enemy as dead as last nights steak. Being able to shoot a 1/4" group at that range isn't going to make him any deader. There is a catch of course. You have to make that 200 yard shot in less than 7 seconds from the buzzer. Oh, and you start from standing: if you want to assume a more stable postion, that is up to you but you still have 7 seconds from the buzzer. There is no bench. There is no scope. There is no bipod. There are no sandbags. If you were doing it for real, the even bigger catch is that the other guy is shooting back at you, probably along with a bunch of his friends.
The vast majority of your shooting in these classes will be at that same size target inside 50 yards and as close as 7 yards.
That kind of shooting doesn't require you to shoot groups off a bench. It is a fine balance between speed and accuracy. The faster the better with groups the size of your open hand being plenty good enough.

[cookekdjr]

they just discontinued their rimfire line, but many folks at rimfirecentral.com felt like it was the best value-priced ammo you could buy- especially the "moderators".
-David

[Red Tornado]

Good point 444. I was referring to a completely different environment.

If I was shooting 200 yards offhand, it wouldn't matter what I was using, any hits would be luck.:o

Anyway, different kinds of shooting have different ammo requirements. For accuracy, I've had better luck w/ PMC. For reliability, I haven't shot enough PMC to really form an opinion. The next box I get could easily have failures.

BTW, Jesse, where are you finding the PMC?
RT

[mp510]

Jesse,
Most if not all of the PMC handgun caliber ammo was imported from overseas (Korea, Phillipenes, etc...). I have no clue about thewir centerfire rifle ammo.
If you ever have intentions of shooting their .22 LR ammo, it is made by Industrias Techanos in Mexico, and that is the same maker of Aguila.