Illinois Semi-Auto ban!!


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Tomekeuro85
March 3, 2006, 05:59 PM
What do you guys think are the chances of this bill actually passing. All the gun makers in this state are threatening to leave and in turn eliminate lots of jobs. Also, theres gonna be a lot of illegal guns that I own if it passes. But back to my main question... What do you think are the chances of this actually passing?

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ryanjones
March 3, 2006, 06:12 PM
I would be surprised if it happens right now. I could see it happening some day but not right now. I don't the political scene is right for it. Illinois always seems to be 3 days away from banning all semi-auto rifles/pistols/breathing unfiltered air/using matches to start a fire/eating falling snow...

lee n. field
March 3, 2006, 06:15 PM
Low, right now. They;d have to sneak it past. The Chicago Devilcrats and collar county RINOs are opposed by everybody else on this, and people are watching pretty closely.

gunsmith
March 3, 2006, 06:16 PM
IL HB2414 Assault Weapons Ban Ultra-Merged-Mega-Thread
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=186505

nucstl1
March 3, 2006, 06:26 PM
I think it's unlikely right now but I think some derivitive of the bill will pass. This really sucks becasue I moved back to IL from the PRK a couple of years ago. Now I am looking at other free states for residence if these silly laws ever pass. What blows my mind is how little press this gets. Most people have no idea that this is even on the table. Many of those who do know about it, and are indifferent, rarely compare the restrictions on the 2nd to restrictions on the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. My brother-in-law is a super pinko and he was supportive of the ban, until I compared it to restricting the 1st (Religion)...He was like, "religion doesn't kill like an m16".........After I reminded him of all the wars being waged in the name of religion, he admitted that religion is more dangerous than an m16 and that the AWB in Illinois is bad for the rest of our rights....Now that I got him thinking right, I just have to get an AR in his hands and turn him to the right side.

Brother in Arms
March 3, 2006, 06:32 PM
Id say if it does pass, DON'T COMPLY!!! I would not just keep my firearms I would actively resist.

Brother in arms

Manedwolf
March 3, 2006, 06:33 PM
Someone in IL said that by the language of this bill, a Garand would be considered a semi-auto assault rifle, hence banned. No idea if that's the case.

If that's true, that's beyond ironic, ban something so symbolic... :mad:

k_semler
March 3, 2006, 07:07 PM
http://tinyurl.com/akjr7

There are currently 41 co-sponsers of this bill.

@Manedwolf:

Depends on if they consider the garand clip a "detachable magazine". If it is a detachable magazine, then I suppose the M1 Garand would be banned. The M1 Carbine, and M1 Paratrooper would be banned under this statute. The SKS without a fixed magazine installed would also be banned. So would a Ruger 10/22 with an ATI Fiberforce Stock.

Sec. 24-1.8. Manufacture, possession, and delivery of
9 semiautomatic assault weapons, assault weapon attachments, and
10. .50 caliber rifles.
11 (a) Definitions. In this Section:
12 (1) "Semi-automatic assault weapon" means:
13 (A) any of the firearms or types, replicas, or
14 duplicates in any caliber of the firearms, known as:
15 (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies
16 Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
17 (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries
18 UZI and Galil;
19 (iii) Beretta AR-70 (SC-70);
20 (iv) Colt AR-15;
21 (v) Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and
22 FNC;
23 (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
24 (vii) Steyr AUG;




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1 (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, and TEC-22;
2 and
3 (ix) any shotgun which contains its ammunition
4 in a revolving cylinder, such as (but not limited
5 to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
6 (B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to
7 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the
8 following:
9 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
10 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes
11 conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; or
12 (iii) a flash suppressor or barrel having a
13 threaded muzzle;
14 (C) a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to
15 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the
16 following:
17 (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to
18 the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
19 (ii) a barrel having a threaded muzzle;
20 (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or
21 partially or completely encircles the barrel, and
22 that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with
23 the non-trigger hand without being burned;
24 (iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more
25 when the pistol is unloaded; or
26 (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic
27 firearm;
28 (D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has any of the
29 following:
30 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
31 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes
32 conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,
33 except for a grip that is part of or mounted on a
34 weapon with a butt stock;




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1 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5
2 rounds; or
3 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable
4 magazine.

22 (2) "Assault weapon attachment" means any device
23 capable of being attached to a firearm that is specifically
24 designed for making or converting a firearm into any of the
25 firearms listed in paragraph (1) of subsection (a) of this
26 Section.[/i]

azredhawk44
March 3, 2006, 07:14 PM
That would affect the Garand, but not because a clip is similar to a magazine.

The capacity to accept a bayonet would get it, as would the flash suppressor. Also, the M14 basically IS a grenade launcher (turn the gas valve off and insert by hand the correct cartridge to shoot a grenade, put grenade on muzzle of rifle) and I wonder if the Garand has a similar system designed for it...

k_semler
March 3, 2006, 07:21 PM
Yes, it does. Look at the bottom of this page.

http://www.marstar.ca/m1garands.htm

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