[Troy26]

You know FOR A FACT that the bad guy is in your house. You have immediate access to any gun you currently own. What do you take wehn you leave your bedroom and why?

[dasmi]

Leave my bedroom?
I have no kids, it's just me. I'm not leaving my bedroom. The bad guy is welcome to my TV and dishes. If he comes through my bedroom door, he gets a face full of Mossberg 500.

[jehu]

Rem. Marine Magnum, eight rds. #4 buck w/5 more in side saddle Streamlite M3 with tail switch on pump handle. Why? Can,t miss and plenty of fire power and coverage.:what:

[ajoker31]

Also Mossberg 500 with 00 buck.

[lycanthrope]

Remington 1100 with 9 rounds of 00 Buck.....and 7 more on the side saddle.

Multiple bad guys on the outside? 16" AR.

[progunner1957]

Remington Express 870 12ga. stoked with 00 buck - messy, but oh so effective!:evil: :evil:

[LJWebster1]

.45 SA Champion, extra 10 round magazine, with my CCW .357 magnum for a backup. Winchester 1300 in the bedroom for my wife to use if the BG gets past me.

[Chipperman]

HK P7M13 with Speer Gold Dots (my CCW gun) b/c that's the only one that stays loaded in the house.

[1 old 0311]

Years ago when I lived in a appartment I heard someone trying to force my front dood open. I hade time to open the safe and take my pick. Mossberg was my choice. I went to the door and racked the slide. Don't know if he had faced a shotgun before, or suddenly got religion but he ran like Tiki Barber:evil:

[The Reverend]

Are you kidding???

Too many movies and Super-cop TV shows:barf: :barf: :barf:

I am staying in my bedroom (the door is always locked prior to lights-out).

SW1911 and SIG P225 are trained on that same locked door.

911!If he comes in...his problem/mistake. If they don't police can have him.

I will never leave a position of tactical superiority unless I am forced to (those of you who have kids may have to) in favor of doing the crap you see on TV...stupid!

Blessings,

[Chuck R.]

Benelli M1S90 “Tactical” W/ Insight M3X Light, 8 rounds #1 buck.

I’ve shot it a lot, trust it, and after duck/goose hunting with its big brother my SBE for seven seasons, I’m very familiar with its operating system.

I figure if there’s more than one guy, 8 shots will give me a fighting chance to make it to the gun safe.:D

Chuck

[faustulus]

Franchi Law 12 00 Buck.

[cslinger]

Unless I have a damn good reason to do a house search it simply ain't going to happen. That reason better be a child or something to that effect.

Other then that I am in my bedroom with my wife, with a piece of furniture in front of a locked door. 911 is on the cell phone.

My wife is covering the only entrance with a Benelli Nova stoked with 7 rounds of 00 buck.

I am covering the only entrance with a Remington 870 Tactical Magnum, Surefire frontend and 8 rounds of 00 buck.

To our backs are several loaded handguns, two additional loaded 12 gauges, a couple AR15s and an M1A scout. Nothing is getting through that door alive the amount of fire that could be put on that small area would be spectacular to say the least.

The reality is we sit on the phone with 911, talk the cops in. Give them a code word, drop the house keys out the window to them when they get here and let them handle the house search and intruder, they have the training and more importantly the backup with training.

One dark evening, take an unloaded gun or air gun and a flashlight and do an house search. You will be amazed at the amount of nooks and crannys that you could be ambushed from.

[Black Majik]

For your stated reasons I KNOW theres someone ransacking my house, I will go outside my bedroom to get my family, and thats it. My house is configured so that only the bedrooms are upstairs, the kitchen, living room and everything else is downstairs. So, everything that will keep the BG's busy will be downstairs.

To go get my family, I'd most likely just have my Colt Government. Then I'm retreating back to my bedroom which is the farthest point away from the house. Waiting back at my bedroom is my 870. I'll let the PD clear my house for me.

[TOADMAN]

357 Magnum...

[old4x4]

I'd also stay in the bedroom with my HK USP loaded with 200gr Gold Dot reloads and my Stinger flashlight. One step in the door and the police can haul his filthy dead carcass outta my house...

[Trisha]

Leave the bedroom to go into the rest of our home? Extremely unlikely. Susan covers the bedroom door with a .12ga coach gun (Desert Eagle and two reloads on the bed, waiting, next to the 1 million cp cordless spotlight, 1911 in her Miami Classic).

Verify presence of additional goblins, vehicle, etc. Open line to 911 if phone reamins functional - otherwise, take emergency channel on EMS pac-set.

Secondary stratedies dependent on development from there. Ready second .12ga, second .44mag, position to cover/defend.

Trisha

[Jamie C.]

You know FOR A FACT that the bad guy is in your house. You have immediate access to any gun you currently own. What do you take wehn you leave your bedroom and why?

A mop and a bucket. To clean up the blood and guts that my 4 dogs have left strewn all over the floor.

J.C.

[shooter 7]

I'm not leaving br till LEOs arrive. Stay put, cover known entrance w 357, while darlin W calls 911. Years ago read of a training scenario with national fast draw champs were timed / graded during a "sleep over" simulation event. Basically, those who gave up concealment lost. I'm staying put. bg doesn't know where I am, I know where doorway is. Itty bitty plug in nite lights abound & backlight anyone in doorways. Downstairs stuff is repalcable, bg forefits life when headed upsatairs.

[M2 Carbine]

Laser equipped Kimber 45.

[osteodoc08]

My house is pretty small, so basically, I'd prefer to not leave my bedroom, but I can see most of the house by peeking out of the doorway. I have my Kimber CDP and my XD-40 with 2-12 round mags as backup. My wife has her P230 if the BG gets past me. I also have my lab and my Pug. I'd be more scared of the Pug cause the Lab will just lick the BG to death, while the pug goes for the ankles/knees.

As an aside I was awakened to same banging around the night after Valentine's. Woke up the wife, got my Kimber and let the dogs out........ only to find the mylar ballon I got for my wife getting knocked around by the fan and bouncing some stuff off the shelves. That'll get the blood pumping at 3AM!!!

[trickyasafox]

its just me and my parents, so i'd call their cell tell em to lock themselves in, do likewise and call the police. rents got a 45 and a 9 in there room, and right now i have the 357 when im home. soon hopefully i'll replace it with a 45 though :)

[spooney]

Rem 870 20ga 4 Brenneke slugs, with 1 more of those, and 4 No4 buckshot.

[Mooseman]

I'd wait with my 12 gauge till things quiet down or the cops arrive. I'd make sure to call my dogs into the bedroom so the wouldn't accidently kill the cops as well.

[Lonestar.45]

Okay, I'll play. My Remington 870 w/00 buck, no question.

[carlrodd]

just a thought....if somebody is knuckleheaded enough to be bumping around while robbing my house in the middle of the night, he has already failed in his endeavor. if he's silent, he must be good, and i guess he's earned my stuff. otherwise he will be actively hunted. offense is the best defense. my house is small, and i'm quite sure i could easily determine where the noise was coming from. i would splash some deer park on my face, listen closely for a few seconds and silently proceed. i myself can't abide the thought of sitting around being taken advantage of. i don't really buy into the idea of it not being smart or safe to leave my room. what's not smart or safe is trying to break into my house and steal my stuff.

[thumper723]

While I think it is a tactially dumb layout (but the wife had to have it)

Our BR has a door to the outside. Glass. Full Height. Double.

Did I mention it is a DUMB layout?

Anyways, I have a HiCap 1911 (13 rounds 45ACP) in the nightstand. I am further from the outside door, and can cover both the outside and inside doors without getting out of bed. Gun is kept Condition 1, since we do not have children nor do friends with children (beyong infant) come over with any regularity. Sweeping my house is a nightmare, as I have what they call a "Great Room" which is a Kitchen/Dining/Living room all in one seperated by a breakfast bar. Great defensive position with a good field of fire BEFORE someone comes thru the front door, but hard to clear if someone MAY be inside already.

During times of "Civil Unrest" (i.e. Hurricane Season) the bedroom gets augmented with a 12 gauge with 00 Buck.

[Nematocyst]

Nothing I have is worth going out.

I have a solid-core exterior door with a deadbolt lock on the upstairs room in which I sleep, and an interior window lets me see the rest of the house from there.

From there, I can dial 911 and let professionals deal with the intruder. (It's just not in my job description.)

Now, of course, should said intruder manage to hack through that door, then all hell breaks loose from a 12 ga & 9mm.

Speaking of solid core doors, I'm tired. Time to retire to the safe space for some Z's.

;)

Nem

[creampuff]

I can access my sig 220 immediately, but if given a little extra time, I would get the Vang Comp Rem 870. I agree, I would not do a room to room search.

Since my house is a recent construction, the walls are just sheetrock and hollow core doors, so I will just fire 00 buckshot through each wall, and then go back to sleep. :neener:

[Phyphor]

i don't really buy into the idea of it not being smart or safe to leave my room. what's not smart or safe is trying to break into my house and steal my stuff.

You probably need to re-assess that particular position. Leaving the room to defend your family is one thing, leaving it to defend possessions is quite another. Not sure how Delaware handles shootings like that, but in the wrong place, you could very well end up in court, or even jail, depending on the circumstances.
If that sucker is dumb enough to try to get into the room you're holding down, you can pop him and probably not get in TOO much trouble (although, given how lawsuit happy these days are?) ..but I'm not sure how a jury is gonna look at someone actively hunting down the threat.

Not to mention, he could be armed himself. And anyone breaking into people's houses when they're at home is probably not gifted with an excess of brains, so you might just have a firefight on your hands.

[Phyphor]

I ain't touching any of the semi-auto rifles I have. Overpenetration issues aside, could you just SEE the headlines?

I'm grabbing the 870 and hunkering down in my room. If he tries to force entry, he's gonna get blasted. The only other gun I keep unlocked is the Glock 19, but then again, if I wind up emptying the 870 and having to go for the pistol, then I'm having a *REALLY* bad day.....

[Inner Monkey]

Make mine an 1100 w/ 00 Buck.

[Rotorflyr]

For your stated reasons I KNOW theres someone ransacking my house, I will go outside my bedroom to get my family, and thats it.

+123456789
I'm not sure what I'd take with me, but I'd be armed for sure with anywhere from a 9mm to a .357 to a .45
Haven't picked up another shottie yet but plan to soon and that would be waiting with my wife and her 9mm and what ever I don't take with me (not to mention the phone she will be on, talking to the cops) :p


if some knucklehead decides to be bumping around while robbing my house in the middle of the night, he has already failed in his endeavor. otherwise he will be actively hunted. i'm quite sure i could easily determine where the noise was coming from. i can't abide the thought of sitting around being taken advantage of. i don't really buy into the idea of it not being smart or safe to leave my room. what's not smart or safe is trying to break into my house and steal my stuff.

-123456789
How do you know for sure the noisey knucklehead is alone? There could be a quiet knucklehead working with him/her and while your focused on noisey knucklehead, quiet knucklehead shoots you in the back........Sorry, no tv/stero/whatever (not counting family) is worth that risk, not to mention the legal aspects of "hunting down" the bad guy.

[Manedwolf]

Open line to 911 if phone reamins functional

That's why the best place for your cellphone charging cradle is your nightstand. They can't cut that line, and it's unlikely that they have a jammer.

I haven't even had a landline in years, I have a docking station for the cell in my bedroom that makes other phones go through it. Why would I want to pay $40+ a month for a phone that rings where I might not be at the time?

[Manedwolf]

While I think it is a tactially dumb layout (but the wife had to have it)

Our BR has a door to the outside. Glass. Full Height. Double.

During times of "Civil Unrest" (i.e. Hurricane Season) the bedroom gets augmented with a 12 gauge with 00 Buck.

But what good does that do? With doors like that, double glass doors, even with shutters, that room is likely going to be one of the first to be compromised by a hurricane. Those nice glass doors will shatter and the bedroom will become a tornado of flying glass and debris. You'd want to retreat to a stronger interior room anyway, so why not just keep the shotgun there? Basic unfortunate reality...in a strong hurricane, any room with double glass doors is likely GOING to be a total loss. Consider it to be like an open patio, and make sure the door from the hall opens inward towards the bedroom (wind pressure will force it closed against the frame, not punch it open) and can be secured with a strong bolt. If you're hit by a strong hurricane, it's going to now be an exterior door, with all that implies.

There's a reason why OLDER Florida houses tended to have things like front doors that opened outward (wind pressure) and older sliding-glass doors in a heavy frame, placed on an "L" in the back of the usually cinderblock outer wall structure so as not to be facing dead east or west to get the winds...

People in the 1950's and 1960's cinderblock ranch homes were a lot more secure, generally, after Andrew and Wilma, while the newer frame houses were compromised, and, if still liveable, often had serious damage that would let roaming jackals get easy access.

[dsk]

Leave my bedroom?
I have no kids, it's just me. I'm not leaving my bedroom. The bad guy is welcome to my TV and dishes. If he comes through my bedroom door, he gets a face full of Mossberg 500.


Same here. Mine is loaded with #4 buckshot. The 1911 is nearby if I feel I need something that shoots faster.

I too have gotten rid of my standard phone line. A cell phone takes care of all my communication needs, and as stated an intruder can't disable it. The only downside is that 911 can't automatically pinpoint your location, so if you're hit you'd better save enough breath to tell the dispather your address.

[retnav05]

Smith model 19. Anyone who can take 5 .357 rounds in the torso and still feel like emptying out my house is a better man than me!

[romma]

P-32... :uhoh:

[Otony]

I have two parents with alzheimers in the house. Wife and baby stay in the bedroom with a Mossberg, cell phone, and Inova T3.

I get the loverly job o' traversing the domocile wit me S&W 10 (2" barrel) in hand, accompanied by a Streamlight TL3.

In actuality, due to their aliments, we get one or the other of my parents up and about often. I sleep lightly, as does my wife (baby is two months old), so we often have a real need to figure out if bumps are friend or foe....fast.

Certainly keeps me on my toes. Oh yeah, big reinforced pockets in my robe for slipping Rosco away quick like.

sigh:(

[mordechaianiliewicz]

The only way I leave my room is for my non-existent heirs. Because I don't have a kid, I would stay in my room with my Mossberg 590 w/ 8 shells of Federal "00" buck, and a Ruger p-95 loaded with one mag of fmj with two mags of JHPs (one in the gun, one nxt to the fmj).

If for some crazy reason I had to clear the house (I've done the clearing drill at night, and the truth is I really respect cops), I'd put my Ruger on it's holster, and have the shottie in my hands. (If I go through 8 shells of "00" I have BIG problems), so no reloads for it (just switch to the pistol).

[threefeathers]

I have a large house, 3200 sqft, 4 generations live there from 86 year old Grand mom to 8 month old little girl. Son and his wife are on one side of the house, he has a CZ 40 with night light, I have a Colt Det Spec. We have a big dog who is extremly protective who hears every thing in the neighborhood. We have a good neighborhood association and share numbers. Everyone on our block is retired military, FBI, or CIA. Our dog will have gone absoutely nuts and will be eating his prey or be dead by now. I dial 911, yell to son, my wife calls immediate neighbors. They will be armed with shotguns quickly. Once I find my son is ok we will wait for the perp(s) to move into us.

[Ala Dan]

My HD cover gun is a Remington 12 GA 870 Marine magnum stoked
with #6 shot, and backed by a few #4 buckshot, as a first line of
defense; then backed by a West German .45 caliber SIG-SAUER
P220A and a S&W 2.5" model 66-4 .357 magnum. The SIG's load
is 8 rounds of Hornady's 200 grain TAP JHP's, and the magnums
cylinder is full of Speer 125 grain JHP's.

[pilot teacher]

Mossberg 500 00 Buck
Taurus PT 145 230 Gr. Federal Hydroshocks.
Then I'd dump the worthless pile of pig poo in a lake with alligators. Lots of them around here.

[pilot teacher]

Mossberg 500 00 Buck
Taurus PT 145 230 Gr. Federal Hydroshocks.
Then I'd dump the worthless pile of pig poo in a lake with alligators. Lots of them around here. :mad:

[nucstl1]

Call 911, stay put, if they cross the point of no return, they meet my usp.45.

[Gelicious]

I have a 4 year old daughter in a bedroom right next to mine. First thing to do is have the wifey on 911 asap while im using every muscle in my body at full force to get my ultra bright tac light and Springfield XD-45 loaded with Hornady T.A.P ammo (carry) off the nightstand and getting myself into her bedroom. My wife would not be left undefended because the two rooms are side by side and i would be perfectly setup between the two rooms. The wife has the .357 at her reach too. Let the guy take our things all he wants, my renter's insurance will replace anything taken... if anyone steps into the hallway to our rooms they will be met with any one of the 14 rounds of .45acp.

[355sigfan]

Colt 6920. with 69 grian boattail hollowpoints.
Pat

[ddj8052]

Primary Mosberg 590a1 loaded with Winchester Ranger 12g 00 buck.

If time permits I will also grab one of many pistols in a Blade tech paddle just in case the Mossy stops shooting for any reason (1911, XD9, Ruger GP100, Taurus 85ti, or S&W625 I feel any of these are going to get the job done).

I will be leaving my room because I have a daughter in the room next door to mine. Her door is further away from the living room at the far end of a L shaped hallway. My door is right at the elbow. I can take a comanding view of the hallway from that position and make sure no one is going to get to my daughters room. She keeps the dog in her room at night so if some one gets in there with out me hearing it, they are going to be in a world of hurt.

[CarbineKid]

My house is set up with my bedroom on one side of the hall, my oldest(4) on the other side, and my youngest(6 months) is in the middle. I have run thru this scenario a million times. Giving the layout of my hosue IF anyones in the house its going to get violent real fast. Theres no where to go but into one of the bedrooms, so Im taking the slime out before he can get to the kids. Now if the noise is coming from the cellar, thats a whole new ball game. Thats when I defend the high ground and wait for the police.

[carlrodd]

-123456789
How do you know for sure the noisey knucklehead is alone? There could be a quiet knucklehead working with him/her and while your focused on noisey knucklehead, quiet knucklehead shoots you in the back........Sorry, no tv/stero/whatever (not counting family) is worth that risk, not to mention the legal aspects of "hunting down" the bad guy.

i never mentioned being driven by a concern for my possessions. if somebody is stupid enough to break and enter MY house, that's plenty of reason for me to make sure they never do it again. my home's my sanctuary, my family has been living in it for about 70 years, and nobody has any business being in it uninvited and with criminal intentions. that's reason enough for me to leave my room. sure it's dangerous, and that's why i practice.

as far as 'legal aspects' are concerned....i think any intruder in anybody's home should be put down, period, and i really don't care what any law has to say about it. if you think that's naive, or silly, or senseless, tell me what you would do if your state enacted legislation that, say, made it illegal to use force to defend your home until you phoned the police, no matter what the circumstance was. would you be fumbling for your cell phone instead of your handgun while somebody was entering your kids' room? some laws are notoriously stupid....disagree?

[Rotorflyr]

never mentioned being driven by a concern for my possessions.

So then what is the driving need to leave a tacticaly sound location??

my family has been living in it for about 70 years, and nobody has any business being in it uninvited and with criminal intentions. that's reason enough for me to leave my room.

:rolleyes: Yeah that's a great reason to "go a hunting".......

sure it's dangerous, and that's why i practice

Well I hope you never have to put your ninja skills to the test*.

as far as 'legal aspects' are concerned....i think any intruder in anybody's home should be put down, period, and i really don't care what any law has to say about it. if you think that's naive, or silly, or senseless

Well actually while I agree an intruder in my home should be considered a threat, not caring about what the law says is indeed silly, naive and senseless.

tell me what you would do if your state enacted legislation that, say, made it illegal to use force to defend your home until you phoned the police no matter what the circumstance was

Well now given that Im not single, it isn't all that difficult to be both calling the police AND being ready to shoot a direct threat to me or my family and of course given the nature of what I do for a living, if it bothered me that much, I could always move as I have no real ties to the state Im living in anyway

would you be fumbling for your cell phone instead of your handgun while somebody was entering your kids' room?

Absolutly not, again as Im not single it would be easy for my wife to call 911 as I was ready to shoot a direct threat to myself or family....besides (out of curosity) just how would the cops know to the second when you shot and when you called if the were a min apart?


some laws are notoriously stupid....disagree?

Nope, don't disagree with that at all, however the law is the law and should either a) be respected as such or b) one should fight to change it





*note: Im not saying one shouldn't be prepared to clear, nor never practice clearing a room/the entire home if need be, just don't think it needs to be done unless there is an immediate threat to an family member

[Nematocyst]

Yeah that's a great reason to "go a hunting"....... Hunting?!

Did someone say, 'hunting'?

Squirrel? <dreams of squirrel stew. reaches for CZ 452> :)

Deer? <dreams of venison. reaches for {soon to come} 7mm08> ;)

Human? <Only if I must. If one that I don't know, who has broken down my bed room door and comes into my sleeping space unannounced, the response is 00 from ...{see user name, add 'P' to last 3 digits}> :scrutiny:

Nem

[sheep]

G19 with 33 round magazine loaded (soon) with hydrashok +p's. Streamlight laser/illuminator - though I'll only use the illuminator, it's amazing how bright six watts can be when the BG's eyes are used to sneaking around in the dark.

I think im catching on!

[MedGrl]

Leaving the room should really only be concidered if you have kids or other family in other bedrooms. I would probably be living alone so I wouldn't leave my room and I'd grab my Remington 870 with #3 buck loaded and ready and call the nice men with blue and red flashing lights...The BG is welcome to my stuff it isn't worth me potentialy getting hurt over. And if he tries to come into my room he'll be in for a nasty surprise.:D

[bgold]

10 gauge BPS with #4 buck....do you need to ask why?

[armoredman]

CZ P01

[backlash]

Benelli Nova with 00 buck in the buttstock stays in the corner on my side of the bed, + 5 more shells on the nightstand. In the room right next door I have a XD9 with 4 mags loaded, two with 124 gr JHP's, the other two with range ammo.

If it was a BG my wife would be on the phone with the PD. If somebody were to break into my house though, they would go for the garage, all my cool stuff is in there, but my dog is also in there.
Pitt Bull/Akita mix :eek:

Unfortunately, I would have to leave the master bedroom, to retrieve another family member in the house down the hall, and if I'm out roaming the halls, I'm getting my dog too. I need to get tac lights for the shottie and XD.

[Troy26]

Thanks everybody. I was a littel slow getting back on the forumn (connection problems) and was really glad to see so many responses. Some had some really good ideas...like the solid core exterior door on the bedroom, and dropping the house keys outside the bedroom window for the cops. I'm wondering if any of you have any other good ones I should take into account when I get ready to build in teh next couple of years.

[Dr.Rob]

Get a mop, I'm bringing a shotgun.

Remington Sportsman 12 Magnum. None of that reduced recoil nonsense. Full power 2 & 3/4inch 00Buckshot @ maximum dram.

Backed up by a 9mm FEG Hi-power clone. With 115 gr slivertips. 15 of them.

[buck00]

Bad guy in house, I reach for the 1911.

I've always thought it would be fun to smear mud on myself like Schwartzenagger in "Predator" and creep out into the hallway with a spear to stalk the intruder silently.... but chances are, I would stay in my bedroom and call the cops.

[S&W620]

I'd break out the Smith 620 with 7 shots of .357 mag (125 gr. gold dot's) and my CZ 85 that stays cocked and locked with 16+1 rounds of gold dot 9mm as well as a 16 round reload that make their home in my headboard. If that isn't enough, then I suppose it's time to have a bit of fun with the knives and baseball bat;)

[M2 Carbine]

I can't really see the hiding in the corner while someone robs my house thing, and whatever is going to happen will be long over before a 911 call does any good.
I don't care about the TV but I'm going to "stop" the sucker just because he's in my house.
Since there's no one else in or around the house for me to worry about, anything that's taller than three foot is a target.:)

[Nematocyst]

I don't care about the TV but I'm going to "stop" the sucker just because he's in my house.Ah, a man of principle.

The TV is covered under my insurance policy.

My trial for shooting the "sucker" who tried to take it is not.

If that "sucker" comes after me, then I'll stop him with a 12, because my life is not covered by that same policy. That is, if I die, it may bring my TV back, but it won't bring me back.

The 12 makes it a moot point.

Nem

[GrammatonCleric]

I reach for my G21 with 28 round magazine loaded with 230 grain JHPs. I also have two spare 13 round magazines loaded with 230 grain FMJs close at hand. Anybody intruding into my bedroom will be perforated in short order. They might also be disembowelled if necessary since I also keep a razor-sharp knife within arms reach.

[chaim]

If I know that someone broke in (per your scenario) and have time to grab whatever I want I will be camped out at the top of the stairs with a shotgun. The bedrooms are all upstairs so if anyone comes up there will be shooting (all the stuff they'd want is downstairs, if they come up where there are only people then I have reason to believe our safety is at risk). I won't wait in my room though. I live with my parents right now, my room is situated such that I'll be shooting towards the rest of the house, my parents' room and the guest rooms, if I have to shoot from my room. So, I'll be outside my room with a handgun backup and my shotgun. My Benelli Nova has 4 rounds of 00 buck in the mag, one in the chamber, 6 in a buttstock carrier, and 25 on an ammo belt. 12ga 00 buck will put down an intruder pretty quickly.

In the extremely unlikely scenario that there are more than a couple attackers, or they have body armor, I will try to get to my SKS with around 100 rounds on stripper clips at the ready.

Now, more likely, if there is an intruder I won't know for sure and will find out upon investigation. I can't call 911 and set up for an attack everytime I hear something go bump in the night. I have a cat and I can't assume the worse every time she gets into something and knocks something down in the living room. Also, even if I hear the door open, it could be my brother who doesn't live here but does have keys. So, since I live with my parents who know I own guns but don't like them I need to be discrete (don't want to play to their fears of gunowners thinking I act like Rambo at every noise). I investigate noises in the night with either my Taurus 85CH or Taurus PT140 Milennium Pro either IWB or in my pocket (or in my hand if I'm really nervous but ready to go into a pocket quick if it is my brother or parents). Sometimes it is my CZ 75B or one of my .357mags IWB. If my Ruger KP345 proves reliable it will probably become my nightstand gun, and thus the one that will come with me when a holster gun comes with me on my investigations.

[MR.G]

S&W 910S. 15 round magazine loaded with 124gr Federal HST.

[carlrodd]

I can't really see the hiding in the corner while someone robs my house thing, and whatever is going to happen will be long over before a 911 call does any good.
I don't care about the TV but I'm going to "stop" the sucker just because he's in my house.
Since there's no one else in or around the house for me to worry about, anything that's taller than three foot is a target.

ah, finally....someone after my own heart. i live with no one, no one i know would enter unannounced, and NOBODY defiles my sanctuary. i'd rather live with splitting legal hairs with the law, than live with the knowledge that i let someone stain the safety and comfort of my home.....i will never allow myself to be so violated. suggesting that a young man sit back and let people have their way with his home, seems akin to suggesting that a woman not fight back if someone is trying to rape her. for those that disagree....oh well. i suppose it's just good that you're not the sort of people that break into houses:)

[GroovedG19]

My G19(carry gun) transformed with Glock Tactical Light, 33rd. mag loaded with Winchester Ranger 147gr. SXT.

Squatting on the floor, behind bed.Make it through my bedroom door and you will be sent to hell before you hit the ground.:evil:

[5x5]

CZ SP-01, 19+1 124gr doubletap GD's, SurefireX200. I have to leave my bedroom, as my bedroom is at the end of a hall. My daughters would not only be unprotected, they'd be in the line of fire. My house really sucks from a tactical standpoint. Hopefully, that will be remedied this spring with a move. -Ian

[BevrFevr]

mossy w 00 buck. will be switching to #4 soon.

If I think there may be friendlys and I HAVE to do a sweep then a cz75b with a surefire.

[BevrFevr]

do you like your sp-01?

I am thinking about getting one. would you reccomend the tactical or the version with the safety?

[albanian]

If I knew it was only one BG, I would go with my Rem 870 HD. If it were a gang of bikers, my AK-47 would make me feel better because I could shoot 30rds before having to put another mag in. I could also shoot through walls if they are trying to hide from me.:evil:

[glockamolee]

762x39 with glock 10mm backup.

I would not leave the bedroom though.

[JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone]

There's a Ruger P-85 in my night stand. Black Tallons! Another mag full of Federal Hydrashocks. Wife has a Colt Cobra with Golden Sabres. Our bedroom is down the hall from the boys. I can secure the hall and tell the kids to stay put. I would not give up that position until the boys in blue arrived. But, if'n the perps are outside doing damage... They ought not want to let me get to the gun room. :evil: :D

-Steve

[Ruger451]

As to the poster's secondary question, there are lots of ways to secure one's home, or to design it with safety in mind. As others have said, having all of the bedrooms apart from the main living spaces is a reasonable measure. Let the robber go through the kitchen and living room, but if he comes down that hallway or up those stairs, let him have it. Also, you can't beat solid core doors with heavy deadbolts.

You could also go with an honest to goodness security system. Any window or door is opened or broken and you will know it, and so will the cops. Just hole up behind the bed with your wife and kids behind you and your Remington 870 trained on the door.

If I had to leave the room to go after kids (which I don't have yet), I would probably take the 870 and maybe the P99 IWB, just to be safe.

[albanian]

As for the wife and kids, they are going to have to fend for themselves. My #1 priority is ME! I told them to get a gun but they didn't listen. I hope being raped or murdered is not too harsh a lesson. I will try and help them out if it doesn't entail any risk on my part though. I can always start over with a new wife and kids but I only have one life.

Just kidding, I don't have any kids but I do have a wife. She has a gun so she should be fine.

[murph50]

I live in a small house in a bad neighborhood. Empty nest. My wife is disabled and has a hospital bed so I've been sleeping on the sofa for the last couple years. Wife has her S&W 38sp next to her bed. I'm in the den --which is located between the front and back door. I would easily hear anyone trying to enter.If they enter in a slow manner I would be just sitting on the sofa with my Mossberg 500. If they kick the door in quickly it could be tough to grab and maneuver a shotgun in such a small house. Whatever handgun I have been carrying is always with me--usually either Kel Tec P11 or XD9sc. When Im sleeping my carry gun is next to me WITH one in the chamber and it could be grabbed and utilized immediately.
My house is too small to actually have to hunt a BG down but I agree with the others that say they would leave the bedroom and hunt the perp down. If someone enters my house they can leave in a police car or a body bag--that's the 2 choices.I would prefer it to be the police car but I refuse to be a victim. The human being is a territorial animal and like any territorial animal whether it be a coyote or a squirrel I will defend my territory with total ferocity and no remorse. I know my legal rights and would definetely try to stay within the law but I will protect my wife and my own life and property and let the cops and lawyers deal with all the legal mumbo jumbo.
Stay safe
Jack

[longeyes]

I'll stay in the b'room, thanks. Mossberg 500 for me too (00 buck) with a Glock 30 for a chaser.

[Borachon]

What does he get?

First he gets me yelling at the top of my lungs, "ERMA! (I'm not married) CALL THE COPS. I'M RELEASING BLOODFANG AND GETTING MY SHOTGUN!"

Then I wait to hear if he's retreating, if not...then I release Bloodfang and pump my shotgun.

[gotime242]

^^^LMFAO!!!! Bloodfang....lol

thats the hardest ive laughed at a post in a while...

:D

[murph50]

Casingpoint
You are correct. I live about 5 blocks from Kingston. Basically 11th and Havana. When I bought this place in 1983 it indeed was a pretty decent area. Now it's all gangbangers and illegal immigrants. I have to back my van up against my house everynight and take my more expensive tools out. With the "make my day law" I am not supposed to defend anything outside the house. My reasoning is--if someone is breaking into my truck to steal my tools--they are threatening my life by trying to take away the way in which I earn a living. My neighbors car was broken into about a week ago. Busted out the drivers window. She's 78 years old and had to shell out $300 for a new window and she had nothing in the car to take. The BG took nothing. She now parks on her lawn --up close to the house. But that won't last long--code enforcement(alley nazis) will bust her for parking on vegetation.
I'm 55 years old--the house is paid for. I would love to move but I really don't want to go back into debt plus I've really accumulated a lot of stuff and would just as soon not move it. So the only option left is to defend it.
Jack

[Dr.Rob]

A few years back I was living with a girl friend in that neck of Aurora in a very SMALL house, single story 2 bedrooms.. with 3 cars parked in the driveway... someone saw a purse sitting on the coffee table broke in where they KNEW at least 3 people were there.

Fact is NONE of us woke up (so much for attack cats) and a total of $26 dollars was stolen.

New windows, security lights and two VERY big barky dogs were added to the mix within days.

My loaded 9mm didn't feel like much of a comfort. But it was there because my GF wouldn't DO anything about security before this, and had literally run prowlers off with her headlights on three previous occasions.

[Pork Fat]

My wife likes to leave a bunch of crap (shoes,books,etc.) on the stairs. Anyone trying to sneak upstairs will end up with a broken neck on the flagstone foyer. I just keep my Makarov handy, but I doubt it would be needed.:D

[loki.fish]

I'm in a house with my little sister and very old grandparents. They way it's laid out, I either leave my bedroom and hunt or my grandparents are possibly dead as their bedroom is downstairs surrounded by the living room, dining room, kitchen. I've never really thought about what to do if anybody broke in, now that I've had to think about it, I need to figure something out.

As to question at hand....D.E. 50, Remington 870, and HK USP .45 full size with night sights and tac-light are 3 main choices.

[Srigs]

My choice would be my Mossberg 500 with a light on the end with my 40 semi as a backup.

[Ala Dan]

Greeting's All-

I have added another couple of handguns to the home security detail
rotation, after they have proved their extreme reliability. They join the
weapons I previously listed, and are as follows:

Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special .45 ACP and a
Springfield XD .45 ACP. Both of these weapons have passed my
regiment of drills and have proven too be "combat ready".

[Autolycus]

is going to do something. If you ever watch that show "It takes a Thief" you see that he gets right by the dog. 99% of dogs are not a real problem for him. I think that a dog is nice but I would not trust it to do more than be a dog. My dog was real protective and sat around the house laying on the couch. He would bark at something but not do much more if it required getting up. I would not be to dependent on my dog.

This is just a reminder.

[Rumble]

Well, to answer the specific question: I take my Mossberg 500 full o' double-ought. I'm not Tactical Pete or anything, but I think I can cover the stairwell while the wife, armed also (not sure what she'd grab...her favorite handgun is her Sig P232, but if there was bad guys coming near her babies, we'd probably be wrestling over the shotgun ;)) goes to round up the kids. Our house is tiny--it's like two steps from our door to the kids' door.

The bad guy(s) would get a warning, and if they came up the stairs at me, it would be time to press the loud button.

[simon691]

Remington 12 gauge with buck shots.

[Geord]

"Guns Save Lives" by Robert A. Waters. Hair raising stories of real home invasions, and responses by gun owning occupants. The scariest was of a woman, Barbara Revalee, recovering from surgery who was home with two kids asleep in the house. Answered the door and a man forced his way in and stabbed her repeatedly, one wound in an eye. Struggle woke up 11 year old boy who jumped on the man's back temporarily distracting the man. She crawled half blind and in pain to the bedroom, found her 5 shot .38 revolver under the mattress, and discovered it was locked with a trigger lock. Fortunately she remembered she had hidden the key under her exercise machine. The man was now struggling with both kids. She fired a shot into the ceiling and when the man saw the gun tried to run. When she had a clear shot, she assumed a combat stance, and fired until the gun was empty. The man survived paralyzed from the chest down. The man had spent 18 years in prison, convicted of 2 rapes, and confessed to 2 murders. She lost an eye, but she and her kids are alive.
Any thoughts on gun locks? How do you safely keep a loaded weapon ready for immediate use when you hear your front door being smashed open, and at the same time protect children from access? When my Grand kids visit I just lock them up, and take them out when they leave.

[torpid]

Any thoughts on gun locks? How do you safely keep a loaded weapon ready for immediate use when you hear your front door being smashed open, and at the same time protect children from access?

A quick access lockbox like this works fine for me:
http://www.handgunsafe.com/safes.htm

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[2TransAms]

Ok I'll play along on this one. I've got my trusty Mossberg 500 leaned up by my bed,a USP 45 in my nightstand,and Mrs. 2TransAms has a .357 magnum(loaded with .38+p's) on her side. My bedroom has a clear shot down half of the hall so I'd see anyone coming. Plus my wife's Jack Russell would wake me up first.Yappy little runt.

But I don't think I'd hunt the guy down. I'd sit there with the shotgun. I wouldn't like sitting there but I also don't like that I'd be sneaking up on a guy(s) that I know nothing about. He probably only wants my TV and Playstation anyway. I'd sure let him know I knew he was in my house though. "Ahem ahem!" *click-clack*

Honestly I'm more concerned about the toolbox on my truck in the driveway. I might not wake up for that.

Also I wonder what a burglar would do if he,being in my kitchen,heard the very distinct sound a chainsaw being fired up elsewhere in the house?

[gitarmac]

I really don't understand the cringe in the bedroom defensive tactic. They can just shoot through the door, and that's what they do around here. If someone has broken into my house then my santuary has already been breached and I'm not going to wait around to give them a tactical advantage. It would depend on the situation I guess though. I have meek dogs and I wouldn't just hide in my room while I listened to them get killed. If they have weapons and threaten me with them then I am no longer simply protecting my property. Past experience has shown me that if they do not have weapons and I do they simply leave.

I always have one of my glocks with nightsights by the bedside and a backup revolver. I have a shotgun strategically located in another bedroom where I sometimes lie and watch TV to unwind before I go to the other bedroom to sleep. Flashlights and headlamps are all over the place, I don't turn on every light in the house when I want to go to the kitchen to get a drink.

I have a camp tramp and GB hatchet by the bed as well so if for some reason I become trapped in there I should be well fortified.

[355sigfan]

The defender has the tactical advantage unless they try to burn you out. Why do you think it takes a swat team to take out a barricaded gun man. And most of the time gas and other means are used to get them out. If they shoot through the door so way. They probably will not hit you . If they try to come in their dead. If you go looking for them they have the tactical advantage.
Pat

[gitarmac]

And then they just act like they've left and lie in wait for when you come out. It might take awhile for the police to get at a barricaded person but that's because they are playing by the rules, and lets not overlook the fact the barricaided person NEVER gets away. They may be barricaided, but they are also trapped.

Did y'all bother to read the post about the 911 calls going unanswered?!? And that's who you are going to wait on while you cringe and pray they just don't shoot through the door?

I can see judging each situation on a case by case basis and deciding for some reason that hiding in your panic room is a good strategic plan but if that is your plan "A" for every circumstance then you might want to work on plan "B" or something.

I guess it's just me, I would feel trapped and vulnerable hiding in a room with no exit, not being able to see or evaluate what's going on around me. I suppose if I'm woken up by noises I would call 911 and wait but (unfortunatly) I'm a very light sleeper and would probably hear them before they make it all the way in the house. In this case I'm not going to run to my room while they finish breaking in.

I also work wierd hours and am not in my room until the wee hours of the morning, maybe that accounts for my point of veiw. Until then I am huddled by the warm glow of my computer, gun of some sort within arms reach.

[355sigfan]

If your barricaded in your room time is on your side. Just wait for police to arrive. If they break into the room shoot them. They only have one way to get at you. One area to cover with the gun. Its much simplier.

If you go looking for them your trying to play one man swat team and the odds are stacked against you.
Pat

[woodswalker]

For those of us with dependents (i.e. kids, parents, families) Be VERY CAREFULL when you chose your ammo!!

Hollowpoints are NOT good house defense rounds. When a hollowpoint hits wallboard (drywall not plaster) the tip gets compacted with material and does not expand as you would assume (try it) Thus essentially creating a FMJ (or ball) round. This causes extreme penetration; when you miss your entended target (relax I am not saying you will) that round will travel through rooms!!! Is it worth endangering your own family?? Think frangible rounds.

Needless to say buckshot will behave in a similar manner, just not as much penetration. Think birdshot. At close range (most house ranges are less than 12 feet) the force of target loads will suffice. Finish the job on the BG if you need to with 2-3 more.

I agree with the multiple posts about not chasing the BG. But a tactical position is a must. Try lying on the floor with just your head and arm sticking out of a doorway. BG's will be looking for eye level threats. If you have the option look into burying your phone line in your yard and take it straight into the house. Leave the overhead line attached to the network interface box so to decoy the BG's if they cut your line. If you call 911 just leave the phone off the hook, they must dispatch even if they don't hear anything on the line (state law)

As for me I have a G23 in the top nitestand drawer full mag of 13 40 S&W 125gr frangibles, spare mag and tactical lite in a lockbox (2 yr old in house) With the slide locked open for the sound factor of slide closing (fear factor) IAlso have a Winchester 1300 speed pump with 5 rounds in the tube. Once again open action for sound (fear factor) I do leave my BR to assume tactical position in hallway lying out of childs BR.

Hope you NOT reading this all you BG's out there.

[355sigfan]

Fragibles have a whole set of problems that go with their use. They have limited penetration not just into building materials but also into people. They have been know to leave large but shallow wounds that didn't stop the attacker. For home defense its hard to beat a 223 loaded with soft points as the overpenetration potential is less than with pistols. WIth shotguns bird shot is well for the birds. Its good at stopping a charging malard but its not all that good on 2 legged predators. For shotguns think 00 buck. Most quality buckshot rounds, and handgun rounds will stay in the target. So the point is not to miss.

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If you call 911 just leave the phone off the hook, they must dispatch even if they don't hear anything on the line (state law)
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Which state. Although most departments will respond. Also just get a cell phone. There is no way to cut the wires and nothing to bury.

Pat

[Davo]

Id grab "Sunshine" my 12 guage, get the phone and cover my bedroom door, simple as that. The police response for a robbery in progress can take 20 minutes easily out here (the local sheriff requires 2 deputies, and they approach lights out from up and down the street).
I would NEVER leave my room, since all I care about is already in my bedroom with me.

[kmrcstintn]

:scrutiny:

This month has been very unfriendly to me...I totalled the car in an accident and lost my job @ 1 week later. I was forced to liquidate the gun collection to put $$$ in the bank to keep afloat and my choices are limited. :(

I have the following items in the bedroom with me:

Sabre mace canister, Maglite 5 D cell aluminum flashlight, 25" long aluminum T-ball bat, a folding pocket knife, and the only firearm I could justify keeping, S&W 642 (HD and CCW)

You can go ahead and laugh now...but keep this in mind...the flashlight will thunk pretty hard and the bat is light enough to weild one handed and allows the other arm for blocking or pushing away :uhoh:

[kbheiner7]

I do have kids in multiple bedrooms, so I'm clearing the house.

12 ga., cut Wingmaster stoked with 00 buck and a 1911 as backup.