questions about guns safes


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whm1974
March 5, 2006, 05:04 PM
Ok I have a number of guns now and I don't really live in that good an area. I also rent, and most of the people around me are also renters.

I have a lockbox for my handguns and I hide that when I'm not home. But I have nothing for the rifles I have.

I don't tell just anyone that I have guns, but....

So what is a fairly decent safe that won't cost me an arm and leg?

-Bill

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PlayboyPenguin
March 5, 2006, 05:09 PM
Here are a couple threads to check out...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=39099

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=184917

a1abdj
March 5, 2006, 05:09 PM
What's your budget? Are you more concerned about burglary or fire?

whm1974
March 5, 2006, 05:23 PM
What's your budget? Are you more concerned about burglary or fire?

Burglary, although some fire protection would be nice. Unfortunaly we have some drug addicts in my area and some people close to where I live have gotten busted for having meth labs. So my main concern is keeping the local "meth heads" from running off with my guns.

My budget isn't really all that great, so safes in the four figures are out of the question.

-Bill

Sheldon J
March 5, 2006, 05:52 PM
Many cheap safe's are nothing more than a fancy high school locker and can be compromised in short order with nothing more than a screwdriver, or if they are too light they can be carried away full. Many of the lighter models recommend that you bolt them down, that can really PO of a land lord costing you $$$ on your security deposit. What you need is something middle road like in the 400+ lb weight class, in thick steel or greater door with a minimum of 6 locking pins for the door, when loaded with your guns it soon becomes to heavy to move by your non prepared BG. Also store your ammo there also for ballast and to make it more difficult to steal. One word of note if you are ever robbed opening or messing with a safe makes it a Federal felony and the imprisonment figures go up for this crime.

Car Knocker
March 5, 2006, 06:03 PM
One word of note if you are ever robbed opening or messing with a safe makes it a Federal felony and the imprisonment figures go up for this crime.

Hadn't heard that before. Can you direct me to that law? Thanks.

whm1974
March 5, 2006, 07:49 PM
Many cheap safe's are nothing more than a fancy high school locker and can be compromised in short order with nothing more than a screwdriver, or if they are too light they can be carried away full.

A fancy high school locker would be better then nothing. I could also hide it in my closet.

-Bill

a1abdj
March 5, 2006, 08:30 PM
Bill,

Some of the imported safes (Sentry has a few models) are not insulated, and use thicker steel than many of the insulated versions. These safes are often sold at Walmart, Lowes, etc......

There are imported safes which are insulated, but use less steel. Many of the imported safes that we sell are available in the $500 to $1,000 range depending on the size and model.

Sams and Costco also sell "club safes", which are safes with fewer features, but sell at a decent price. You can often get these safes in the $500 range.

As far as safe cracking being a federal crime, It usually isn't. If the safe is located in a bank, pharmacy, or other federally regulated industry, then maybe so.

Hot brass
March 5, 2006, 10:38 PM
What ever safe you decide to get, "MAKE SURE" it has thick walls. My safe has 1/4" and 5/16" walls, door, top and bottom. I have seen safes with 10ga metal that cost $1000 and up looked like a tin can after a beating with a sledge hammer that scared me. A good safe is cheep insurance.

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