[mmike87]

Have not had a chance to photograph it yet, but I snagged a NIB PTR-91 at the gun show this weekend.

I am not sure what model it is, but it has the folding stock and comes with the aluminum tactical handguard. It has the standard mediocre flash surpressor that so many rifles come with these days.

I ordered rails for the handguard, the special "zero movement" clamp for the handguard, and a muzzle brake from JLD. I also ordered a sling and vertical grip. I have no intention of putting any sort of optics on this gun.

I can't wait to shoot it (or my new FAL that I have not shot yet either, pending good weather :banghead:)

One question - JLD seems to be out of th sight tools right now. Any other reasonably prices options?

[Editied to correct stupid spelling error!]

[Father Knows Best]

Congratulations. That's a fine rifle. I love my PTR-91. It started life as a standard model, but has been upgraded a little.

How do you like that folding stock? They're made by Choate, as I recall. I haven't handled or shot one, yet.

By the way, it's a muzzle "brake", not a muzzle "break."

Dunno about the sight tools. You might check the forums over at HKpro.com. I have one of the JLD tools, and it's a nice little piece of equipment.

If you don't mind telling, how much did that rifle cost ya?

[mmike87]

By the way, it's a muzzle "brake", not a muzzle "break."

Oh Lord, really - I am not as stupid as I sometimes sound! :o

The rifle was $980 NIB. That seemed like a pretty decent price considering the folding stock and the "tactical" handguard. The handguard alone is a $150 piece on JLD's site.

[The Real Hawkeye]

I had an HK-91 in the 1980s, but sold it by the end of the '80s because I needed the money. Sold it for $600. Couple years later, they were going for three times that much due to the George Bush import ban. Anyway, it was a super reliable and super accurate rifle. I kick myself every time I think of selling it. Kind of heavy, though, to be toting around much.

[mmike87]

It feels like it weighs half as much as my FAL ... now THAT gun is HEAVY, especially with the optic and bipod!

[The Real Hawkeye]

I believe the FAL is actually lighter than the 91. I have an STG-58, which is the Austrian FAL, and it's heavy compared to an AK or an AR, but then it's a full power battle rifle, not technically in the assault rifle (dimentionally, and powerwise) category, which is designed to be more compact and lightweight, being in power about halfway between a handgun and a rifle.

[mmike87]

Really? It sure doesn't feel that way. Again, my FAL is the heavier barrel and has a bipod and Aimpoint on it, so that certainly adds significantly to the weight. The PTR seemed very well balanced - and feels lighter to me.

[The Real Hawkeye]

Well, the fact that your FAL is a heavy barrel version makes it more front heavy, so the balance could be what your feeling. I'm pretty sure, though, that the standard FAL is lighter than the standard HK-91.

[Onmilo]

Take an H&K G3 and a FN-FAL in standard Military guise and the FAL is about a half pound lighter than a G3.
It feels heavier and a bit more unwieldy because it is a longer rifle than the G3.
I have always felt that a G3 is heavier than it appears to be.

I have had my PTR91 rifle for some nine months now and am well pleased with it.

[The Real Hawkeye]

Will people who have this rifle please post some pictures. I would like to see what it looks like. Does it have the original G3 style flash suppressor? Thanks.

[mmike87]

I am going to try and get time this evening to photo mine. I am not sure what the original G3 flash surpressor looked like, but what came with it appears to be an "A2 style" flash surpressor (looks just like a "stock" surpressor on an AR) but I am replacing it with a muzzle brake, anyway.

[Father Knows Best]

Will people who have this rifle please post some pictures. I would like to see what it looks like.
Ask, and ye shall receive:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/mosmoke/guns%20110505/PTR.jpg
That's mine. It's an early one, so it doesn't have a flash hider.

[mmike87]

Here's a bonus question - on the trigger group, the safetly selector is marked "S" and "E" - assuming "S" means SAFE, what does "E" mean?

Evil? :cool:

[Father Knows Best]

They are abbreviations for German words:

S = Sicher ("safe")
E = Einzelfeuer ("single fire")

Of course, real G3's also have a third position, F, which stands for Feuerstoss ("fire burst") and is the full auto position (it keeps firing as long as the trigger is depressed). Other variants include modes that fire 2 or 3 rounds bursts for each pull of the trigger, in addition to full auto and semi-auto. These variants have pictograms instead of letters, however. My brother has a G36k, for instance, with single shot, burst and full auto modes represented by pictograms.

[mmike87]

Learn something new every day ... thanks!