Concealed carry in NC.


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V4Vendetta
March 7, 2006, 12:03 AM
I've been thinking. Do you need a concealed weapons permit for handguns only? Or would carrying a pocketknife count as well? Also, I can only afford 1 gun. When I get it* I plan to take it to my store during the day & home when I leave in the evening. If I hide it under my coat so as not to freak out people between my car & the store, is that illegal? I figured that since it was a long gun it didn't count but I want to be sure.

Thanks for the info.:)

*A shotgun.

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dman4384
March 7, 2006, 01:37 AM
The shotgun is concealed if its, well concealed. Hiding under your coat is concealment and is certainly illegal in NC on its own.

Next question is whether NC allows concealed carry of -long guns- with a CCW. Many states that have CCWs only allow concealment of handguns. (and I don't know the answer to this one)

CajunBass
March 7, 2006, 01:45 AM
Go to http://www.packing.org/state/north_carolina/ to check up on NC laws.

I gather you mean you are going to be carrying for example a shotgun back and forth to your place of business every day? Just get a gun case. Everyone will know what it is anyway, but it will be cased and I doubt anyone will "freak out" about it. You can probably get one at Wal-Mart for about 10 bucks or so. Don't store your gun in it. Use it for transport only. The gun might sweat and rust if stored in the case.

Taipei Personality
March 7, 2006, 09:25 AM
NC concealed carry is for hand guns only. Pocket knives do not require a permit as long as they are folding and "of reasonable length." Reasonable length depends on the prosecutor and I've heard various lengths between 3"-4". Concealed carry of pepper spray is legal without a permit and carry of stun guns is illegal. An overview may be found at http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf

'Card
March 7, 2006, 10:05 AM
This isn't rocket science. Get a range bag or something. Put the gun in the bag. Put the bag in the trunk of your car. When you get to work, carry the bag into the store.

If there was anything illegal about that, we'd all be breaking the law every time we go to the range.

...and as far as pocketknives requiring a CCW permit?
"They'll get my Leatherman when they pry it out of my cold, dead hands." :)

Oh, wait - I just saw the part about the gun in question being a shotgun.
So... you're going to hide a shotgun under your coat while you walk into work? Oh yeah. Good idea. No way that would freak anybody out, right?

V4Vendetta
March 7, 2006, 10:12 AM
The only people who work where I work right now is me & my mom. After I got in, it would be under my desk. I think that since it's my premisis it's not illegal.

Thanks for all the help.:)

Amish_Bill
March 7, 2006, 11:24 AM
If you are parking on your property and carrying it from the car to the building, then the CCW issue is moot. Now, if you are parking in a public space and carrying it to your property, then you are subject to carry laws.

So, are you parking on your property or in the street?

V4Vendetta
March 7, 2006, 11:30 AM
On the property. We rent the building from a guy if that matters. He didn't say we couldn't keep a gun here & I know that when his son ran the place that he had a pistol here.

Frandy
March 7, 2006, 12:40 PM
Why not just take the good advice and put the shotgun in a case. Let's say the odds are 1000-1 against you being seen by an LEO or by some other citizen who calls the police and reports a man with a firearm going into a building. The odds are good but why tempt fate?

Do you feel a need to protect yourself with that shotgun while walking from car to building? If you do whip that shotgun out from under your coat to defend yourself, the decision on what happens to you will be up to a grand jury. :D

LAR-15
March 7, 2006, 12:46 PM
On your own premises you can concealed carry whatever you want in NC.

It's off property owned by you that it's virtually illegal to conceal carry anything other than handguns with permit or Swiss Army type knives.

The statute is pretty clear.

LAR-15
March 7, 2006, 12:50 PM
Open carry is good to go in NC for most 'weapons' but you could run afoul of the 'armed to the terror of the people' common law statute.

LAR-15
March 7, 2006, 12:51 PM
Also if you don't want to freak people out over your shotgun just get a carry case and put it in there.

Don't do the coat routine. If you for a moment are off property owned or leased by you, your toast.

V4Vendetta
March 7, 2006, 01:11 PM
I'll get a case I reckon. Thanks for the advice. :)

Frandy
March 7, 2006, 01:31 PM
Hey LAR... Now I see how some of you guys have so many posts. Just do one for every sentence. ;) :D

(like I just did) :neener:

44Brent
March 7, 2006, 02:54 PM
"but you could run afoul of the 'armed to the terror of the people' common law statute."

There is no such statute -- it is common law, and hasn't been applied to anyone in the last 10 years according to my concealed carry instructor. My instructor also trains the state police and he says that it was applied to individuals wearing white hooded robes who terrorized blacks.

There are several cities with ordinances restricting open carry, but I don't think they are enforceable given the state pre-emption law.

Doug Add
March 7, 2006, 04:13 PM
"but you could run afoul of the 'armed to the terror of the people' common law statute."

There is no such statute -- it is common law, and hasn't been applied to anyone in the last 10 years according to my concealed carry instructor. My instructor also trains the state police and he says that it was applied to individuals wearing white hooded robes who terrorized blacks.

There are several cities with ordinances restricting open carry, but I don't think they are enforceable given the state pre-emption law.

That may be the case in Illinois, but going about armed to the terror of the populace is codified in North Carolina: General Statutes 14-288.3.

outofbattery
March 7, 2006, 05:46 PM
Yes,going armed to the terror of the people is a nebulous charge that's often added on in NC to illegally concealed weapons,especially in cars.It's up to the defendant to prove that he wasn't going about armed to the terror of the people if he for example, had a shotgun illegally concealed-and that could mean in the back of his car,if not readily enough in view of the officer.

LAR-15
March 7, 2006, 10:49 PM
Never have seen the text of the statute but in NC the AG's office warns of it.

Doug Add
March 8, 2006, 10:17 AM
Never have seen the text of the statute but in NC the AG's office warns of it.

Here it is, from chapter 14 on Criminal Law.

14‑288.3. Provisions of Article intended to supplement common law and other statutes.

The provisions of this Article are intended to supersede and extend the coverage of the common‑law crimes of riot and inciting to riot. To the extent that such common‑law offenses may embrace situations not covered under the provisions of this Article, however, criminal prosecutions may be brought for such crimes under the common law. All other provisions of the Article are intended to be supplementary and additional to the common law and other statutes of this State and, except as specifically indicated, shall not be construed to abrogate, abolish, or supplant other provisions of law. In particular, this Article shall not be deemed to abrogate, abolish, or supplant such common‑law offenses as unlawful assembly, rout, conspiracy to commit riot or other criminal offenses, false imprisonment, and going about armed to the terror of the populace and other comparable public‑nuisance offenses. (1969, c. 869, s. 1.)

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