New Special Ops Show -- THE UNIT


March 7, 2006, 11:04 PM

Did anyone see the new CBS show THE UNIT tonight?

It is about a top secret US Special Ops Team (like the Delta Force).

It stars the guy who played President Palmer on 24 as the special ops team leader.

Pretty good "gun play" -- for example, it featured a "silenced" .22 auto, HK MP5, shotguns and various pistols.

I liked the directing for the finale shootout scene between the good guys and the terrorists on the jet -- well done!

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March 7, 2006, 11:18 PM
It was OK entertainment. Not as bad as Commander in Chief.

March 8, 2006, 12:29 AM
Someone called me up and asked me to watch. I didn't care for it, it was just too "Hollywood". Jumping out of corporate jets, BG's flying back when shot, SF using a handgun to clear the plane when SMG's, shotguns and rifles were avialable, no armor or other personal protection even though they were available to him. Too many holes in the plot as well.

I suppose if mindless entertainment is the goal, fine. But I'd rather watch sci-fi for that, at least they can make up anything they want and I can't call BS on it.

March 8, 2006, 12:35 AM
Five minutes away from a 35,000' HAHO and they haven't depressurized...

Please. :rolleyes:

History Nut
March 8, 2006, 01:53 AM
Agreed several things didn't seem 'right' but there were good points if only by comparison. The following are my opinions only. I have no real-world experience to give my thoughts greater validity than others.


Entry member not wearing any armor and they didn't show how he made it from ground level into the door quickly. No back-up with him seemed wrong as none of us are immortal no matter how good. He appeared not ready for his reload-it took too long.

Too much of the 'unit' having conflict with other agencies/commands. I would suspect that anything from that high a level would have a 'priority' to give the FBI or other military commands that basically said: 'do what he says'.

The first time a 'team' tried to approach the plane and got shot down they were described as National Guard when we all know it would have been a PD SWAT team if anyone.

The show drug out the new guy's wife's naivete on security too long. After all, she would have to have been an Army wife for several years and couldn't be that clueless?

Plus points:

Best line in the show: "you, you and you; 'panic', the rest of you follow me".

Next best line when the top kick is dropping off the new guy at home: "there's not much crime in this neighborhood"

Seemed like a good representation of the importance of the soldiers' families and their need to adhere to security protocols too.

Questionable/marginal points:

The unit commander having an affair with one of his men's wife is stretching it a bit for 'Hollywood' in the kind of unit depicted. After all, this would be a very close-knit community of both the soldiers and their wives. This would really be near-impossible since they all apparently live in the same neighborhood. I grant that human nature will try anything but it just seems a stretch for the sake of 'drama'.

The unit setting up their laser designator right in the middle of town in the opening sequence when the target was visible for miles from several angles?

The use of a pistol for the entry man might seem a mistake compared to MP5s and shotguns but then also makes some sense. He needed precision and power which a shotgun doesn't have and an MP5, at least in 9mm might lack. It looked like he was using some version of a M1911 .45 which would work fairly well. He wanted precise shots and no/little collateral damage. We have to accept that the top kick was highly experienced and very good with his pistol.

I am sure there are more but those stood out to me. I will watch a few more episodes to see how it goes which is more than I can say for my first viewing of "Over There" and "24"

March 8, 2006, 02:03 AM
Never saw it but if it is from CBS, it is only a matter of time before they weave their anti-gun agenda into it. Just watch. Sooner or later, if history tells us anything, the show will become political propaganda for at least one episode.

March 8, 2006, 08:41 AM
I thought it was "ok." Noticed a lot of unrealistic/hollywood stuff, too. What seemed like a big hole in the plot to me is that at one point, when it is still broad daylight outside, the guys in the corporate jet are "20 minutes away". Then suddenly, it is night when they do the halo jump, and everything else takes place at night.

March 8, 2006, 09:25 AM
FWTW, Eric Haney of SpecOps fame is an advisor to the show. He wrote a book, Inside Delta Force which is the Show's go-by.

March 8, 2006, 10:00 AM
The first episode wasn't bad, but then agian I tuned in expecting a Hollywood action movie style show, not a History channel documentry.

Let's wait until there are a few more episodes to judge it from, but it was good enough that I'll tune in next week.

March 8, 2006, 10:05 AM
"Best line in the show: "you, you and you; 'panic', the rest of you follow me".

the line was" you,you and you vanish, the rest of you follow me"

March 8, 2006, 10:16 AM
I wanted to watch it but I had a staff meting at 9. Would you gus recomend it?

March 8, 2006, 10:39 AM
And with all the local news cameras around the 3 good guys didn't bother to hide their faces ..... walked right into the camera lens.

I did like the double tap of the mirror once he got home.

March 8, 2006, 10:51 AM
Other minor (or major) annoyances-

Why take a crew of 5 out to the aircraft if only one man is going to be inside shooting at the bad guys? I thought that when you storm an aircraft you actually "storm" it.

They made a point of getting 2 MP5s but neither is seen again?

Top sends the new guy to take out the surveillance team as part of a sniper team ("You will be his spotter") but sniping wasn't any part of the mission.

I'll still watch it again, just in case it gets better.

March 8, 2006, 11:00 AM
Well, in addition to the lack of pre-breathing before the HAHO (Which seemed like it was playing out to be a HOLO instead) I noticed President Palmer was using those magic .45s that lift the bad guy clean off his feet and knock him back a yard or so. It was nice of the terrorist to calmly wait to be shot instead of blowing the plane too.

I missed the first half hour, I wasn't going to skip Scrubs for it.

March 8, 2006, 11:25 AM
I caught the shootout on the plane, up through the end. Was it just me, or did the reload on teh plane seem awkward? I think maybe the magazine was backwards in the case, which would explain the odd movements during the relaod. I've got it on tape, so I'll watch again and see if I can detecte anything...

March 8, 2006, 11:28 AM
I ran out of cheese 5 minutes in......

March 8, 2006, 11:54 AM
just like any other tv show is.These guys are actors for cryin' out loud.Let's just enjoy it for what it is.
I did think the Leader going in with no armor was weird,everybody else had it on.and the reload may have looked slow because of the way they shot that sequence...some fast speed,some regular speed.

What the heck is a HAHO???? :confused:

March 8, 2006, 11:55 AM
What the heck is a HAHO?

High Altitude Jump with High Altitude Opening, as opposed to HALO, High Altitude, Low Opening.

March 8, 2006, 12:04 PM
What the heck is a HAHO?

High Altitude Jump with High Altitude Opening, as opposed to HALO, High Altitude, Low Opening.

Either is, of course, preferable to the HANO.

March 8, 2006, 12:19 PM
Just ok. I only watched it because of the lead guy - the Pres from 24. Other than that, I wouldn't have even watched it.

March 8, 2006, 12:25 PM
1. The business jet was at 30,000 feet . . . why did they want it at 35,000 before they jumped?

2. Inconsistent switches between day and night.

3. Ditto the previous post RE: setting up the laser designator in town. (Also, don't know how the multiracial UNIT team would blend in as locals in Afghanistan.)

4. Nobody in charge on the ground - the UNIT, FBI, and other military types aren't on the same page.

5. Three man (?!?) National Guard assault team just watches stairs being lowered, watches bad guys come down, watches bad guys raise weapons, watches bad guys kill them. Hmmm . . .

6. Best line: Paraphrasing UNIT commander's last words to FBI(?): "My best man is out there, and if you interfere with us he's going to come down and kill you!"

Well, at least nobody forced them to change the terrorists from Middle Easterners to European Nazis like they did when they made Clancy's The Sum of All Fears into a movie. :rolleyes:

March 8, 2006, 12:26 PM
"Did anyone see the new CBS show THE UNIT tonight?"

It was on, but I didn't see 1/5th of it. I just got rid of my AOL dial-up and was marveling at my new Verizon fiberoptic connection. I just wonder if I'll be happy with the 5Mbps downloads or if I should ante up another $10 a month for 15Mbps service. :scrutiny:

I did see enough of the show to know that a couple of the characters need a good smack upside the head.


Optical Serenity
March 8, 2006, 12:55 PM
I heard Eric Haney on Fox News talking about it. The guy seamed very high speed. Guess I gotta watch the next episode or wait for the box set to come out.

March 8, 2006, 01:16 PM
Why did Top shoot the mirror at home? I caught the last couple of seconds right after he did it, but I don't know what lead up to it. Had to step away for a minute.

Aside from what everyone else has noticed that didn't add up,(time of day for the jump,reloading,etc), I think the part of new members wife was a bit much IMO.(and a waste of film)

I'll watch a couple more episodes and see if it gets better.

March 8, 2006, 01:16 PM
They have ALREADY worked an anti-gun angle into it. anyone recall the one of the last scenes when Dennis hears that creepy little monkey say the arabic words and he puts two through the new mirror? Kinda reinforces that "gun in the home is 40 tiimes more likely to injure a family member" BS. If this high speed dude can freak out and shoot off inside his own house, what are we peons supposed to do?

I guess the idea is to show that he is really high strung and heading towards a break-down, but we'll see. I'm VERY underwhelmed from Mamet and Ryan, this show is numbingly routine so far.

March 8, 2006, 01:23 PM
Either is, of course, preferable to the HANO.

You owe my company a new moniter and keyboard for the Coke I just spewed on them.:neener:

March 8, 2006, 05:09 PM
I TiVoed last night, will watch it sometime this week or weekend.

Jeff White
March 8, 2006, 05:22 PM
Wonderful, more mindless drivel for the unknowing to start threads about in Strategies and Tactics....:banghead:

Eric Haney is not progun. I remember his commentary during the DC sniper scare.

This is simply another network trying to cash on on the "24" craze. In the next couple years you'll see more shows on all the networks like this.


March 8, 2006, 09:11 PM
The wife and I just finished watching the first episode. Well done we both thought. A bit unrealistic in some points, but it came across to me as sort of a feel good show. The wife was the one catching all the gun/mag stuff. She wanted to add something as well.

The following has been posted by therealsteamer's wife:::::::

"All I wanted to post was that the magazine was backwards on his belt, he had to kind of roll/twist it over on his thigh and in his hand. I think i solved that one."

March 8, 2006, 09:29 PM
35,000 feet sounds a bit high, even for a HAHO. I found this on an Army web site for jump school:
Week two through four

Jump, Jump, Jump...and you will also jump. From here on out it is pretty much all jumping. You begin by exiting at 10000ft with no equipment, to exiting at 25000ft with full equipment and oxygen. You must remain stable, pull at the designated altitude (+/- 200ft), and land within 25m of the group leader. If the weather is good, you get to do a lot of jumps (including HAHO). High Altitude High Opening jumps are jumps where you exit at say...13000ft and 5 seconds later deploy your chute. You then glide 5-10 kilometers (a lot more depending on exit altitude and winds) to the target...quite a ride! Graduation consists of equipment turn in, diplomas and paperwork, and the requisite class party. Definitely a pretty fun school.

March 8, 2006, 09:38 PM
But I'm just a low experience sport skydiver. Gave that up a little bit ago, with just under 500 jumps over 17 years.

1. Corporate jet can open up a side door in flight? Well, I dunno, but I doubt it.
2. Corporate jet with the engines on the tail, and you're going to jump out a side door? Sheesh. Well, maybe only a skydiver will notice that.
3. Amount of time between first and second jumpers, and relative lack of distance between them after they're out. That was really bogus, but it would probably take a skydiver to notice that, too.
4. No reason for a HAHO vs HALO. Bad guys arent' going to freak out over a jets at 35000 feet, and a HALO would have given less time for the badguys outside to spot the jumpers.

March 8, 2006, 09:49 PM
I happen to stumble upon the show last night while channel surfing. In truth I did not like it. Not that I found any real fault with the weapon handling or military area since I would know little about that area to pass any judgement. My main issue was the story line, dialogue and actors did little to impress. The wives and there side of the story was overdone and boring. The whole story felt forced and very contrived. I feel it will end of like "Over There", another over hyped show, this time about soliders in Iraq, and a side story of their familes trying to get along without them, it will be canceled before the first season is over.

pete f
March 9, 2006, 01:29 AM
it is a mid season replacement. so it was not even deemed good enough to start the season. it is fodder to fill out a time slot.

I was hoping for more from a show with Mr Haney on the masthead.

Making a big deal about a quiet .22. It may be a oss model B(i think) High standard, but they are not that rare.

An affair inside a very close knit outfit with an officer and an enlisted mans wife. NOPE, That is professional suicide of the highest order.

An on-call officer of an elite CT team travels to remote part of the country without his grab bag. Again, no.

A single boarder of the plane. They put a single charge on the outdside of the airframe and it blows and the door comes out? there is not physical way for that to happen. Doors open in so that internal pressure seals them into the door opening. Imagine a tapered plug into a barrel, only inside out.

The plane still had air in its tires. That is the first thing done to stop airliners on the ground.

For a high speed low drag super shooter he sure had a tough time with the reload.

The inferred attitude that they were above the law. We are the gov't and we know better than you.

Using a quiet .22 to stop the look outs, quiet 45's maybe, quiet mp5's more likely. Isnt a shot like that the reason the Mk23 HK was made?

Just covering the little wire harness made all that HE on the aircraft safe? a pro would have walked along and pulled caps.

I found the continued story of the whiney wife too much. If her hubby was selected to such a team, he would have briefed on how to either keep her quiet or to have had a sufficient cover story in place before hand as to keep her happy. Read about the "test Pilots" of the F 117 who were given significant training on deceiving their wifes when they went home on weekends. To the point of having scripts given to them on the ride home so that they were not caught if the wives got together to chitchat at the market and they did not have matching stories.

Again the use of commerical Aviation as a insertion device.

It was only minutes from the Cessna's discovery of the "lookout" in broad daylight, (and do you think the lookout would have noticed the radical jinking of the Cessna as a bit peculiar? Why bother, he was seen, was he afraid of getting shot down?) to the appearance of the bizjet haho drop in full darkness.

Really poorly done.

March 9, 2006, 02:28 AM
than watching Top Gun with a couple of Naval Aviators.

"There's no way they would launch a tomcat with a pilot not wearing his gloves and with his visor up!"

March 9, 2006, 11:46 AM
Eric Haney is not pro-gun, I remember his commentary from the DC sniper scare.

Yup, you beat me to it. I also remember from some of his comments that he didn't know what he was talking about either considering his alleged expertise. :scrutiny:

Optical Serenity
March 9, 2006, 11:49 AM
Who cares if Eric Haney is pro gun or not? Fact is he is the real deal when it comes to Delta and knows a lot.

I watched the show, and thought it was actually very good. Its hollywood, I'm not looking for reality.

March 10, 2006, 11:29 AM
What about the most elite unit of them all...G-Unit?

Rick O'Shea
March 10, 2006, 12:57 PM
Geez, guys.

Everybody whines about all the anti-gun leftist propaganda being put out by Hollywood, and they finally put a show on with a firearm related lifestyle as a major theme, and you pick it apart.

I ignore plot holes in most shows just to enjoy them more. I don't skydive, have no tactical background, and frankly didn't pay attention to the 20 minute transition to night.
I did enjoy seeing someone using a 1911, and really liked the scene with the disabled ops guy who bench shoots, gunsmiths for the team, and wishes he was back out there. THAT was a refreshingly pro-gun scene to me.

This is Drama.
Reality will always take a backseat to cool images and clever lines.

You want reality, be an LEO or sign up. I bet it"s not nearly as entertaining.


March 10, 2006, 10:03 PM
The show would be excellent if they only eliminated the role of the soldiers' families. I want to see more shooting, explosions, and cool stuff like that... not drama queen crap.

March 11, 2006, 10:30 AM
What was the deal with the 'silenced' .22. I mean a .22! Its report is next to nothing already.

Browns Fan
March 11, 2006, 11:06 AM
+1, kennyboy!

Silenced .22's are a very realistic scenario, the Mossad uses these, or, at least, they used to.

March 11, 2006, 06:47 PM
Who cares if Eric Haney is pro gun or not? Fact is he is the real deal when it comes to Delta and knows a lot.

I watched the show, and thought it was actually very good. Its hollywood, I'm not looking for reality.
Count me as one who cares. If that's his attitude, he's a nazi. He's some high-and-mighty tactifool commando and apprently he feels he's better than the citizens he served if he thinks only fools like him can 'play with guns.' Ditto swat team guys and cops, etc, that think they are more 'qualified' than the avg citizen to own.

I'm a soldier. And i do not believe i am better than the non-soldier. If you're cutting Eric Haney slack because he's the 'real deal' you're playing into his elitist attitude.

about the show...? it sucked. the action stuff was weak and silly and pretentious in its supposed 'realism'...the domestic stuff was creepy stepford wives-esque....and, funny enough, also had a very nazi-esque feel... dunno who Haney is, or his role on the show, but it certainly feels like an 'elite' self-important SOF magazine writer who feels citizens cant own guns is right down the alley of this show :)

I like the G-Unit picture someone posted above. that's exaclty how i feel about this show.... if that's what float your boat, and you think rappers have 'street cred' the same as this show, then by all means. whatever floats your boat, and i wont disparage your taste.

March 11, 2006, 06:54 PM
you guys are worse than watching Top Gun with a bunch of Naval Aviators

But 8 out of 10 of those naval avaitors are naval aviators BECAUSE of Top Gun...9 out of 10 are because of TOp Gun or Bridges of TOkoRi or Flying Leathernecks, or somoether such movie. End of the day, I've never met a pilot who felt the huge inaccuracies of Top GUn made them hate the movie...on the contrary, it had the opposite effect on them :)

March 11, 2006, 07:32 PM
I liked it. Course I like NCIS and E-Ring also.

I was impressed how he cleared the plane with a pistol. Musta had Jo-bu in his corner this time.:D Is very bad to take Jo-bu's rum. Is very bad!:D

Old Dog
March 11, 2006, 09:16 PM
I must confess I will happily watch any television show -- and forgive any inaccuracies or Hollywood license -- when the main character is not only a senior NCO, but packs a 1911 to boot ... Folks, it won't get any better than this.

Yes, I did just complete 26 years in the military, got a chance to be around the cool guys doing cool stuff, and learned a thing or two ... but give me a TV show wherein our armed forces personnel are depicted as intelligent people honorably doing the tough jobs -- and I'll watch it religiously, no matter how hokey (and totally over the top or unrealistic) it may be sometimes (yeah, I liked JAG, and Topgun is still one of my favorite movies).

Rick O'Shea
March 11, 2006, 10:17 PM
Thank you.

That was to some extent my point, and nice to hear it from someone in a position to make it.

March 12, 2006, 09:32 AM
Who cares if Eric Haney is pro-gun or not?

I took his commentary to be anti-gun. Which brings me to the "problem". He took an oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution.....all of it.

He also belonged to an elite group that if you listen to the black helicopter crowd, could be tasked with assisting with civil disarmament.

March 12, 2006, 09:39 PM
Either is, of course, preferable to the HANO.

:D :D :eek:

March 13, 2006, 12:02 AM
But 8 out of 10 of those naval avaitors are naval aviators BECAUSE of Top Gun...9 out of 10 are because of TOp Gun or Bridges of TOkoRi or Flying Leathernecks, or somoether such movie. End of the day, I've never met a pilot who felt the huge inaccuracies of Top GUn made them hate the movie...on the contrary, it had the opposite effect on them Speaking of units and films related to them, a family friend once told me about the ruckus his unit caused when they (SeaBees) got their hands on a copy of "The Fighting SeaBees" and several kegs. They decided to take up their differences with the Marines in a nearby barracks until the Shore Patrol arrived to break it up. :what:

After that, they werent allowed to have both beer and a copy of 'The Fighting SeaBees' at the same time. :p


March 15, 2006, 02:04 AM
good interview on PRIs' "Fresh Air" with David Mamet and Shaun Ryan. Mr Mamet talked at length about his love of hunting and shooting in general, his living in Vermont and building a pistol range in his back garden and how he was saddened by gun control becoming a divisive issue in America. He also mentioned the storming of the plane, referencing Haney as saying that Delta was incredibly low tech in operating procedure, that it would literally be a guy in sneakers, jeans and a t-shirt with a pistol going in. He also retold an anecdote where Mr Haney was asked by a knife magazine to write an article on the combat knifes of Delta Force. His reply was that it would be a very short piece as they buy butchers knives-sharp and sturdy, then just chuck 'em when they're done and buy another...

March 15, 2006, 02:38 AM
He shot the mirror because the stuffed monkey was a repeating talking monkey, and it said a word in Arabic that the terrorists had used when Haysbert had his back turned to the dresser. He was unaware there was a talking, repeater stuffed monkey sitting there. He had just returned from a hijack plane situation and whirled and fired, thinking there was a terrorist in his room. Stress.

Anyway, I like the show. It's becoming my favorite. I don't care if it's not completely realistic. I like military shows. I'm sick of police/hospital shows, and the only lawyer show worth watching is Boston Legal.
I liked the program Over There that was on FX for a short time. So, yeah, I think The Unit is pretty good.

March 15, 2006, 06:34 AM
I missed all but the last 15 minutes of the pilot but I caught last night's episode. I also meant to listen to the NPR interview (Shawn Ryan's The Shield is my current favorite show). Here are my thoughts:

1. These guys don't wear covers? ***?

2. The sniper (The red-haired bearded guy from Saving Private Ryan) was obviously simulating recoil with his H&K. One shot had the ejection port clearly in view and nothing came out.

March 15, 2006, 08:58 AM
Saw last night's (3/14) episode. Things haven't improved - either the script writer is taking stupid pills or wants us to believe our secret special-ops guys are.

1. In desert, guy with 'scope sighted rifle can't hit anything when he's at rest. When being chased, he still can't . . . but in the back of a bouncing Land Rover, being chased by the bad guys, he has no problem holding it still and drawing a bead on the white guy passenger in the pursuing truck. (His 'scope reticle was missing the middle 3/4 of the crosshairs.)

2. In desert firefight, guy with open sighted rifle can't hit anything . . . until he raises his head and looks OVER the sights, then he finally hits one bad guy.

3. Guys need to make a fake "radioactive device" so they break up their watches and compasses . . . comment is made that they needed the "radium" from the dials to make the BGs think the fake device is genuine. Problem is radium hasn't been used in luminous dials for a long, LONG time. The tritium used today to energize phosphors is a beta emitter, and would be unlikely to deceive bad guys with a geiger counter.

4. Guys have two 4x4s and trade one to the bad guys . . . AFTER which they discover the other one has been disabled.

5. Captured bad guy is not restrained - or even watched - on evac plane, so he just gets up, opens the side hatch, and jumps out.

One good line from the program: "Don't shoot the white guy."

March 15, 2006, 08:59 AM
it's a cartoon and it sucks


March 15, 2006, 09:21 AM
The unit commander having an affair with one of his men's wife is stretching it a bit for 'Hollywood' in the kind of unit depicted. After all, this would be a very close-knit community of both the soldiers and their wives. This would really be near-impossible since they all apparently live in the same neighborhood. I grant that human nature will try anything but it just seems a stretch for the sake of 'drama'.

SF buddy of mine kept wondering why he kept getting sent south over and over again and then found out his CO was sleeping with his wife. He caught them together in his house and threw the guy out the bedroom window and his wife after him.

March 15, 2006, 03:09 PM
I gave it two chances and it bombed both times so that's it as far as I'm concerned.

Two thumbs down!

March 15, 2006, 03:15 PM
I wanted to like it.

But that 'he's almost in range'with the PSG-1 at the beginning.. hello why not shoot the DRIVER first?

It's got errors and the writing doesn't seem to be up to The Shield... but my GF likes it and there are explosions... so it's not all bad.

Optical Serenity
March 15, 2006, 04:20 PM
I saw the second episode and it wasn't so bad. Obviously there are some fictional things, but...still, its hollywood trying to be serious! come on folks!

March 15, 2006, 05:08 PM
Was driving me crazy by the end of the show. I wanted to slap her silly. (Not that I am in favor or hitting women, please don't get me wrong, she was just exasperating after awhile.) What did she think her husband was doing? He's in the miltary, he shoots people and blows things up. Get a grip woman.

Other than that is was Hollywood, just what I expected. If any of you have watched the new show Dallas SWAT have you noticed that nobody ever gets shot? That's very true to life, but can be boreing after awhile. Just once I would like to see one of those drug dealing gang bangers get capped by a SWAT member. Well, that happens more in Hollywood than real life.

March 15, 2006, 05:23 PM
I could get past the technical mis-steps if it was, well, entertaining...The Shield/24 has me craving more at the end of each episode, (though everytime Jack's bloody daughter pops up in the plotline i gnash my teeth), but The Unit just lacks tension, pacing, compelling or sympathetic characters... Now the new FX series"Thief" with Andre Braugher looks interesting...

Bartholomew Roberts
March 15, 2006, 07:07 PM
Achingly bad entertainment that will continue to misinform people on firearms long after it has been deservingly canceled.

The show has competent actors, a producer who is both a talented writer and director (Mamet) and technical consultant who obviously knows the subject matter.

It is a shame that with all those resources available they seem to have relied totally on 16yr old boys with vast SOCOM Navy Seals Playstation experience for the writing and direction.

Perhaps if CSM Haney could refrain from sharing his political opinion with us for a few minutes in the promos for the show, we might learn why the show is so far off the mark reality-wise despite his input and it being based on his biography.

March 15, 2006, 07:27 PM
Now, I lost interest in 24 back in season 1 when his wife lost her memory because of the daughter and car. I thought that was completely ridiculous. I'm seeing this season because they have it on overnight here at work. But I think some of the stuff in 24 is just as stupid as anything The Unit's had so far.

March 16, 2006, 12:03 AM
Ah, I'm not saying 24 is sensible, but that it is entertaining and well structured in that cliffhanger Flash Gordon serial kind of way.....

March 16, 2006, 08:31 PM
I'll just say it again. The Unit needs more shooting, explosions, and action. The drama and family crap needs to be lessened greatly or cut completely. Show me action-not a soap opera.

March 16, 2006, 09:07 PM
Shawn Ryan TV doesn't come without the soap operatics, unfortunately.

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