[eagle24]

I did a little distressing of the blued finish to give a worn look. I'm not much of a photographer, It didn't show up too well but really looks pretty good. When the weather warms up I'm going to give it a more authentic Rust Browning. Oh well, Its all slicked up on the inside and ready to shoot! Threw in a few decorations for Beartracker.


http://www.freewebs.com/weagle1/1858REM%2Dmedium.jpg

Pietta 1858 Rem New Army from Cabelas

[Beartracker]

Eagle24, They all look good! Like what you did to the Rem. It looks like it has been put to use now. The arrows and the bow's look great also!
We have a guy on here that goes by Steve and he is really a great self bow builder and has so much Osage that they burn it for fire wood,:) Mike

[Steve499]

Yep, I like the used look, too. Good job eagle24.

Steve

[Beartracker]

Steve, Smart A$$!!!:D I think I'm going to be sick from looking at that pile of fire wood:( The guns and the bows look great!

[Beartracker]

Don't know if this link will work or not but here are some pictures of my 58" Bev-L-Loc take down long bow that O.L. Adcock built for me. He designed the limbs and I designed the riser and grip area. It has double carbon in the limbs and Texas longhorn steer for the tips, it's #57@26". We came up with this idea so that I can carry it in my quiver of back pack in a two piece case due to the bad terrain where I hunt Bear. Keeps both hands free for falling down these mountains or dragging in a Deer or Bear.:D
When my bow's not in the woods with me when scouting then my Remington is.
http://photobucket.com/albums/v81/Beartracker/ACS%20BearStick/

[eagle24]

Beartracker, the link worked fine. Good looking stick. 58"......whoa, I couldn't even talk O.L. into going 62" on mine, it's gonna be 64". Course I'm long armed and draw a full 30" with a LB. We're gonna get rung up talkin bows on this gunsite. Anyhow, I can't wait to shoot my Remmy. If I can get out of the office early enough this evening it's gonna happen.;)

[Beartracker]

eagle24, Let us know how the shooting goes. You may already know this but I would like to suggest that you the cylinder rod well and also the front arbor hole on the cylinder so that the grease will travel through it as you slide the pin in. You may have to remove some of the lube right under the hammer as the lube will come out that hole. A Little grease on the cylinder star will help also. The Remington's have a habit of binding up from fouling around the cylinder hole. If you find that it binds to much a good trick to help it is to chamfer each end of the cylinder pin holes. This helps it hold more grease on each end.

[eagle24]

Well looks like I won't get to shoot today. We've got a line of severe t-storms that will be here in the next couple of hours, its already getting dark and the wind is whipping pretty good. Let me ask another question since you mentioned greasing the cylinder rod and star. When I reassembled the gun last night after working the action, I lubed the hammer, trigger, bolt, and hand with gun oil (eezox). Should I have used crisco or similar natural lube instead on the internal parts or is modern gun oil OK there?

[Beartracker]

Regular gun oil is fine but I have to tell you that I have been shooting guns and bows for many years and it's really hard to beat Mineral oil for gun oil.
It's super cheap at the Drug Store or Dollar Store and it only takes a few drops. After cleaning with whatever method you like to use I use Q-tips for the tight spots with just a drop or two of Mineral oil. I even use it in the barrel and then run a dry patch threw it. You can store a gun forever with this stuff and it will never rust. They use it on Hospital equipment and on food machines. You can buy this stuff extra thick or thin. My favorite applicator bottle for it is a small bottle from Elmer's Glue. Just wash it out when your done and it works great. After you have it all oiled and lubed wipe it down well, This oil is really slick.
When on the range or shooting one cylinder after another I like to use the spray can of WD-40. Works great and it's fast!, Mike

[eagle24]

Mike, I agree with you and have some mineral oil on hand as well. I've been using EEZOX for about 15 yrs and the stuff is really good. You can squirt some on your fingertips and it doesn't feel greasy when you rub your fingers together. I can't stand my hands feeling all slippery and oily. I just found this info on EEZOX, and it looks like it might be really good for BP applications as well. A friend of mine turned me on to it many years ago. He has been on some extreme weather condition hunts in Alaska and overseas. This oil really stands up to extreme cold as well as being a super preservative coating and lubricant. Check this out, I can't imagine any gun person not liking this stuff if they ever try it.

http://www.eezox.com/gun-care.html

Greg

[Beartracker]

Greg, Heard of this stuff before but never tried it. It sure looks like good stuff. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for the tip, Mike

[Low Key]

Well looks like I won't get to shoot today. We've got a line of severe t-storms that will be here in the next couple of hours, its already getting dark and the wind is whipping pretty good.

I hope that you came through the t-storms ok. We had the same problem here in NE TN yesterday...wind at 25-35 mph sustained and gusts of probably 45mph or so on top of the mountain here, but down south got the worst of that line of storms. I thought about shooting with the wind at my back so it would boost the ball a few fps faster to the target! :p Problem was that the wind kept changing directions too quick...oh well! I'll be doing some shooting today and hopefully you will get to shoot today, let us know how that new 58 shoots. :)

[Beartracker]

High winds hear all night and it's still heavy gust. Calling for 77-80 tomorrow and then back to snow by mid week. Crazy weather but hey! It's spring soon.

[Old Dragoon]

We're expecting 6-12" of snow between Tonight and Sundy above 3,000 ft elevation. I'm at 3200 ft.

I shot my new Euroarms, '58 yesterday...One shot, one hit. We've had a pesky, very bold, Coyote hanging around everyday around 1-3 in the afternoon just across the street in the pucker brush. Day before I went out to about 50 yards of him and yelled at him and he just yawned and stood his ground.... Yesterday, knowing that they travel the same route everyday(at least this one has) I was ready for him yesterday. I walked up to about the same distance with the Euroarms '58 with the conversion cylinder in it. Old Wiley just stood there not the least concerned. I don't know where this thing shoots yet, so I took aim just behind the shoulder and a little high and touched her off. He turned to "Bite" at himself approx. where I had held and a bit lower, fell down, then jumped up and ran off. I don't think I killed him as he was moving off pretty well on all fours. He has been killing the neighbors chickens, cats and a puppy or two around the area and has become very bold. I hope he takes the hint. My neighbor lady went out in the area on her horse for an hour and could not find him. I went to the spot he was standing and didn't see any blood anywhere either. Neighbor lady had run him off yesterday with her horse and dog. She was standing outside her gate watching me take my shot.

I'll be waiting to see if he comes back today.

[Steve499]

That old coyote would have been D.R.T. if you hadn't got all new-fangled on us and shot him with a cartridge! A round ball would have killed him so quick he'd probably already be swelling up by the time you could walk over to him. Heck, he'll be back tomorrow, probably won't even have a limp! Put that percussion cylinder back in there and show him for real next time.

Steve

[BP Tess]

Hey, I hope you get that pesky critter! BTW what load were you using in your new remmy? And why did you pick euroarms...just curious, I've been looking to purchase another 58 and my first was from cabelas a pietta. I like it fine. Just might like another better! Thanks...Teresa

PS. We had some pretty wild weather here in Indiana last night...tornado warnings and such...really windy. Won't be shooting much this week, wet and yuckey...ahhhh but Spring is springing!:D

[Beartracker]

O.D. , That bullet didn't do it's job was because you didn't use the lube I sent you, Lol. I agree with Steve, load that sucker up 35-40 gr. and use a ball next time. His days of chasing the Road Runner will be over:)

[Old Dragoon]

BPTess,
I am going to Euroarms on my '58's for the simple reason that I have small hands and the Euroarms feels better to me, about like a '51 Navy Colt, which I consider the best Colt ever produced due to handling, balance and feel.
Euroarms does a few things different than Pietta and Uberti, like making the chambers larger than the bore(grooves), chamfer the chamber mouths, Crown the muzzle and what I can tell their fit and finish is every bit as good as the Pietta and Uberti. The other thing I like is the the internal surfaces are polished before the pistol is blued and smoooooth. At least my first one is that way. My second one comes Monday and I'll check it out and report back.

I use 28 grns FFG Elephant BP in my 44 Rem. Cartridges with a 248 Grn Bullet. Approximates a 45 LC.

Steve,
OK, the C & B is back in the Euroarms. 35 grns Elephant BP FFG and a .451 RB. Capped and ready to go. I'll be waiting on Ole Wiley. I don't really expect him to return today, but he may be stupid. I'll have another go at him/her.

I take no pleasure in this at all, but he's dangerous as he has lost his fear of man and there are little kids next door. He has even sit on one of my other neighbor's back doorstep. She shot at him too and missed at PB range. He came back after her puppies the next night.

Beartracker,
Oh!?? I did use your lube on the cartridges in the cylinder and on the gun too. But we'll see what happens when i use the C & B on him. I really hope he doesn't come back. I'll taske no pleasure in dispatching him/her as he/she is a fine looking Coyote. That said , I won't hesitate to take him/her out
because of his recent history.

[Low Key]

OD,
You're right to take the ol coyote out. They are natural hunters and since it has lost the fear of people, it is very dangerous to any children in the area. They look for the young and weak, easy prey for them so it is best to be rid of the critter before it becomes a sad story for a neighborhood mother in the evening news.

[Beartracker]

That Yote is just plane dangerous in his actions. As Low key Said , a child could be next and when they come right up on your porch he is really bad news for all concerned. Take it out O.D. and the sooner the better.

[sundance44s]

LIGHT HIM UP DRAGOON ! :fire:

[eagle24]

Go to top post in thread. See longbows and arrows. Put arrow, tipped with 125gr Zwickey broadhead, through Coyote. Coyote runs 40yds, really fast, bleeding badly, then drops dead. Neighbors never know you shot.:D

[Old Dragoon]

W.C. didn't show up today. First day in a week, so I either got him, or scared the bejeebers out of him. I do take the '58 out with me now when I feed, just in case W.C. shows up again. I think he knows he's toast if I get a second chance.

[Steve499]

Well, he probably got a look at what you shot him with, saw it was a percussion Remington but couldn't see the conversion part and assumed he'd been hit with a round ball so he just knew he was killed and went ahead and died.

Steve

[Beartracker]

Steve, Has a good point about that Yote running off and dieing. When he bit at himself it's very possible that you got him better than you think. If the bullet traveled through the body without exiting he may have made it a way's before dropping. If it warms up out there soon you will smell him in short order or other Yotes , Buzzards and other critters may gather around for a feast.

[eagle24]

Just got in from the range. 36 rounds through my 58 Remington without a hitch. I shot it off hand from 15 yards, 3 cylinders with 30gr Goex fffg. Then went to 35gr and it seemed to like that a little better. Windage was dead on the money, if it was adjustable I would'nt touch it. Center of my groups were about 2" above POA at 15 yds. Man this is neat! I love the smoke, smell, smooth recoil, and the warmth you feel when you touch it off. Let my dad shoot it and he griped about the trigger, but I thought it felt pretty good. Oh well, he had been fooling with a $600 Walther that would'nt feed reliably all afternoon. I told him when we got home, we would call Cabelas and get him a "Real" Gun on the way. My first 3 groups were about 4", then when I went to 35gr I had 2 groups that were under 3". I am eccstatic about how it shot. Also, had no problems with fouling and the cylinder or action getting tight. I just wiped her down between cylinders and loaded back up.

[Beartracker]

eagle24, I love it when a plan comes together!:) Congrats to you and your new Remington, Mike

[Old Dragoon]

Welcome to the '58 Remington world, they are the best!

[gmatov]

OD, That ain't so, you keep saying you gotta get a '51.

If you haven't yet (been lotsa other places, mighta missed it), get one, then say which kid you'd give up if you could only have one. Guarantee you'll love 'em equal.

Well, the little kid is kinda dumb and butt ugly, but he do smile nice.

Guess I'm lucky, didn't get stuck on one. '60 .44, '51 .36, '58 .44, '58 .36.

Guess if I had one o' them LeMats, I'd learn to love it too. Well, mebbe not, I might think that was not one o' my kids. There's a limit to ugly.

Like the woman with 14 kids whose littlest was up to his eyes in a hog wallow, stepped on his head and held him under, said "I'm sorry, son, but it'll be easier to have another than to clean you up."

Cheers,

George

[Old Dragoon]

George,
Haven't gotten a "51 Colt Navy yet.
Finished my conversion of the Remington Carbine. I put the hand fitted cut down Pietta 44 Rem. Kirst in it.
I ran into a little flaw in the casting when I was cutting the Port in the frame. This is the second Uberti '58 Rem. Frames that I have heard of with this problem. A void in the metal in the area where the port is cut thru. Marshal Will Wingam on SCORRS forum had the same problem with his when he cut the port in the frame of his Uberti 5 1/2 inch. The two Pietta's I have cut didn't have that problem. makes me wonder if maybe Uberti uses the same moulds for their "58's and the 1875 Rem Cartridge frames??? One mould with an insert for one or the other in the recil shield/port area??? Not so far fetched if one knows anything about moulds and inserts. or perhaps the metal was a might cold when poured??

[sundance44s]

You may be onto something Dragoon ... sure sounds like an air bubble in the casting .... hope it wasn`t too deep where ya couldn`t smooth past it .

[Yankee John]

My 2005-made Pietta Remy had a casting flaw/air pocket too. I ran into it while cutting it for a ported Kirst. Pretty small, but still something that I didn't want to be there.

John

[finlander]

I'm not much a photographer as you can see below, but anyway, here's few days old pic of my Remington.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5701/remingtonpieni6me.jpg

[Steve499]

Old Dragoon, my Pietta Remington has one of those flaws which looks like a casting void, too. Mine is on the bottom side of the top strap, doesn't show until the cylinder is removed. I'd bet a lot of the cast frames have those regardless of who made them.

That Palmetto I sent back some time ago had one of those in the barrel! It looked like a casting void in the rifling. I don't think even Palmetto would try to cast barrels. Would they?

Steve

[Manyirons]

Nah, not a cast barrel, just an inclusion flaw in less than admirable steel and noone much cared to bother about it.

[Duncaninfrance]

Can't fault the looks of them can you but where is all the snow?!!
Duncan

[finlander]

Can't fault the looks of them can you but where is all the snow?!!
Duncan

Here in Finland we usually keep the snow outside. Usually.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6050/maisema10zy.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maisema10zy.jpg)

[Duncaninfrance]

That's a good place to put it and I hope it stays up there! Won't do our vines any good!
Duncan