Maverick 88 droppin' shells?!?!?!


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JJpdxpinkpistols
March 10, 2006, 01:53 AM
So I am out on the Pink Pistols shoot. Nothin' but Oregon Sunshine on the coast range (meaning rain, wind, more rain, some light gusts, then some pelting rain). Camraderie is good, coffee is hot, and explosives are fun! We found a great slingshot device for clays and were having a grand old time out at Timber Pit.

I really enjoy my Maverick 88 (nicknamed Zoey). It's a lovely shotgun, and I have added the Knoxx SpecOps stock to it, but it has a problem:

Dropping shells.

The problem may actually be caused by multiple factors, some discovered after reading the archives here (see---I did my homework!).

I feel the need to ask others and see what their experience is:

When shooting full power 3" #4 birdshot (don't' ask, its just what I had on hand), it was noted that the breech would open up a good way presumedly due to recoil. Subsequent cycles of the action would bring out the spent shell, but occasionally drop the fresh one, instead of cycling it in. I am happy to avoid the full power 3" shells (hard on the hand at the forend...couldn't feel the shock in the shoulder much, really nice stock!), but that brings us to the next item:

Lest we think that a short shuck is solely responsible, even when shooting "regular" 2-3/4 target loads, it was noted that a shell would occasionally drop. I had a friend shoot while I watched the action, and there didn't SEEM to be any short-shucking involved.

Extraction seems relatively consistent. We shot a good 100 shells off that day, and I think it failed to extract one maybe two? Very few. I know that extraction can be an issue with the Mav. And have seen it specifically with Federal shells for some reason.

One of my fellow shooters believes that the elevator on my shotty is missing some pieces. I checked several months ago, and couldn't find any other Mossy or Mav that has a "full elevator", but perhaps I was just not paying attention.

Below you will find a picture of the elevator as installed. If anyone could look at their Maverick or Mossy and verify that that is what THEY have, I would be eternally grateful. Numrich doesn't have an illustration for this part itself, and I can't find a picture of it isolated out anywhere.

History: When I bought Zoey about 6 months ago (95$) I took it apart, oiled it good, cleaned out a BUNCH of gunk, dried everything off carefully and then reassembled. I grease the forend itself where it contacts the barrel, but otherwise, there is no massive buildup of lube inside. After shooting, I clean out the barrel, then use cotton swabs throughout the action to get any weirdness.

Any ideas what I was doing wrong, and/or, is there something missing from Zoey the Mav?

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Snowdog
March 10, 2006, 07:09 AM
This reminds me of a similar situation I had a couple days after purchasing my Maverick 88. I was taken back by the spent shell (Winchester 3" 00 magnum) being ejected out the ejection port as if it were an automatic. The pump was in the forward position but the bolt was to the rear of the receiver. I stripped down the shotgun and couldn't for the life of me find what went wrong. Hundreds of various shells (including magnums) later, this shotgun has never had a repeat performance of that malfunction.

It was quite strange, however.

Quickdraw Limpsalot
March 10, 2006, 08:25 AM
I've never experienced anything like that before with mine, & it's been used pretty hard for about 10 years now. Does your warranty apply? Sounds like a couple of lemons to me.

JJpdxpinkpistols
March 10, 2006, 12:18 PM
Warranty? We don't need no shtinkin' warranty!

I bought it used. i doubt it would apply...but I will look over the booklet for warranty info this weekend.

Did you see the photos? Do your Mav's have the same elevator?

foghornl
March 10, 2006, 01:28 PM
That's my only 'knock' on the Mavericks...that skeleton elevator. I had seen somewhere, but I cant find right now, some info on adding metal/swapping out the elevator.

I'll poke around some and see if I can find it. BTW, don't try those 2" "Mini-Shells" in a Maverick. I trteid a few, and they would not feed properly

Quickdraw Limpsalot
March 10, 2006, 03:57 PM
Yup, same elevator in mine. There is a chance mine is slightly different though, being an older model (It's probably around 10 years old, no screw-in choke, old "ribbed" forearm...) I've only shot 2.75" shells in mine, but never had a single misfire, failure to feed or "dropped shell" that I remember.

Ithaca1937
March 10, 2006, 04:28 PM
Here is a picture of my Maverick 88 that I bought in September of 2002.
http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36932&stc=1&d=1142020352

Here is a picture I took of the internals.
http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36934&stc=1&d=1142020694

I have a theory of what your problem might be.
I think that the cartridge stop is letting a shell slip forward, and that shell is catching on the elevator. Then when you pump it the next shell goes under the elevator and out of the gun.
http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36940&stc=1&d=1142021607

I tried this situation in my Maverick 88, it will eject the spent shell from the chamber, the next shell in the magazine will drop out of the gun, and not load anything in to the chamber.

Onmilo
March 10, 2006, 05:31 PM
Ithaca1937 I agree with your theory.
Probably a burr or the shell stop was incorrectly installed and slightly bent.
You can send the gun back to Eagle Pass Texas,(not recommended unless you are super patient), or you can have a local gunsmith install a new shell stop, maybe $25.00 tops including the shell stop.

scout26
March 10, 2006, 07:57 PM
Ithaca1937 I agree with your theory.
Probably a burr or the shell stop was incorrectly installed and slightly bent.
You can send the gun back to Eagle Pass Texas,(not recommended unless you are super patient), or you can have a local gunsmith install a new shell stop, maybe $25.00 tops including the shell stop.

or you can read what MNRIVRAT just wrote (an excellent post) on just this problem.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=185095

JJpdxpinkpistols
March 10, 2006, 08:46 PM
go to work and see what folks post!

Thank you all for excellent contributions.

I actually spent a day searching, and never ran across that particular post, so thanks, scout26.

I will see what I can find tomorrow AM.

Thanks again folks!

Ithaca1937
March 10, 2006, 08:47 PM
+1 on mnrivrat's post. I guess I'm a day late, and a dollar short.

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