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Nathaniel Firethorn
March 10, 2006, 10:17 PM
...on the ad on the back cover of Issue 1 of GunBroker.COM magazine?

Looks familiar...

- NF

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Nathaniel Firethorn
March 11, 2006, 07:44 AM
What? No takers?

Hint:

http://www.getaccw.com/images/girl2.gif

- NF.

El Tejon
March 11, 2006, 09:57 AM
I don't think we can say.;) Old wounds of the heart and all.

LSCurrier
March 11, 2006, 10:26 AM
Isn't that Betty. She looks awesome in that picture - as she always does in the other pictures I have seen of her.

However, isn't the ejection port and thumb safety on the wrong side of the gun? Guess they flipped the picture for some reason - perhaps she looks more intent on defending herself this way.

Luke

Lobotomy Boy
March 11, 2006, 10:28 AM
However, isn't the ejection port and thumb safety on the wrong side of the gun? Guess they flipped the picture for some reason - perhaps she looks more intent on defending herself this way.


It's a special 1911 for left-handed shooters.;)

V4Vendetta
March 11, 2006, 10:31 AM
I give up. Who is she?:confused:

saddlebum
March 11, 2006, 11:07 AM
the runt in fine form.:D

V4Vendetta
March 11, 2006, 11:37 AM
I don't understand.:confused: :confused:

mbs357
March 11, 2006, 12:18 PM
Is it you? =o

Chipperman
March 11, 2006, 01:27 PM
Her name is Betty.
"runt" refers to her old username here "runt of the litter"

She used to be "involved" with someone here.

'nuff said. Move along.

PlayboyPenguin
March 11, 2006, 01:33 PM
Eeewwwwww...drama. :)
I do not know her but she has a certain Sarah Silverman look to her.

Preacherman
March 11, 2006, 04:00 PM
That's Betty. She's ma fren'! :D

I had the privilege of officiating at her wedding a few weeks ago. She and new hubby seem to be enjoying life together.

Oleg Volk
March 11, 2006, 04:20 PM
Whose ad? I am not so sure that whoever printed it cleared the matter with me or with Betty?

The original poster:

http://www.a-human-right.com/inpublic_s.jpg

Fly320s
March 11, 2006, 05:55 PM
I know the face/name, but never met her.

I'm more surprised that gunbroker has a magazine. What's it about?

PlayboyPenguin
March 11, 2006, 05:58 PM
Oleg, you might know this. If you post uncopyrighted material on the web does it fall under any type of public domain laws? Is this pic copyrighted?

rbernie
March 11, 2006, 07:47 PM
If you post uncopyrighted material on the web There is no such thing as uncopyrighted material. Everything that a human being creates is copyrighted (at least within our definition of society). The question is how that copyright is handled. It can be protected via registration with the US PTO. It can be waived and placed into the public domain. It can be licensed. But it's always there... I cannot sell, publish, alter, or otherwise muck with another's works without their permission or without their having previously explicitly abandoned their copyright. Likewise, I cannot claim copyright to a work that is either help in copyright by another or which has been placed into the public domain.

Is this pic copyrighted?See above. :D

Now, the Fair Use doctrine (http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html) allows people to copy and/or duplicate snippets of copyrighted material for the purposes of review or research. However, modifying Oleg's picture for republication does not likely fall under Fair Use protection... :rolleyes: This means that either Oleg or the photo subject would have had to provide permission to the publisher for this picture to have been legally used.

hso
March 11, 2006, 08:18 PM
I'd bet a case of ammo to anyone that Gunbroker Mag did not get permission from Oleg, the photographer, or Betty, the model, to use that image. Oleg's work has been ripped off before and this wouldn't be the first time. This image comes from this page of his website http://www.a-human-right.com/concealedcarry.html

PlayboyPenguin
March 11, 2006, 08:50 PM
There is no such thing as uncopyrighted material. Everything that a human being creates is copyrighted (at least within our definition of society).
Boy, I wish you had been the judge when I sued a publisher for reprinting some illustrations I had done for a small role playing publications years ago. :)

Lobotomy Boy
March 11, 2006, 10:31 PM
Oleg, you probably have an intellectual copywrite lawyer already, but if you decide to pursue this and need one, contact me privately. One of the writers who works for me is currently going through this same thing with a liquor company--they used one of his images without permission.

Nathaniel Firethorn
March 12, 2006, 09:23 AM
Oleg, just so you know, the ad was printed on the back of a thin mag that Gunbroker sent me. The advertiser is www.getaccw.com. The link is from that site (http://www.getaccw.com/images/girl2.gif).

I thought for sure that thy'd have gotten permission. Guess I shouldn't have been so sure.

- NF

Nathaniel Firethorn
March 12, 2006, 09:36 AM
Shot of the ad attached. Sorry about the cruddy photography. Oleg, if you want the original, please PM me with your snail address.

- NF

Justin
March 12, 2006, 11:15 AM
I've got that same magazine.

I remember looking at it and thinking that there was no way Oleg or any decent designer did the layout. It's just awful typography.

nswtex
March 12, 2006, 11:35 AM
The advertised website actually has many pics I saw on Olegs site.

Oleg Volk
March 12, 2006, 02:54 PM
They had OK to use photos on the web site. Did not have OK to change them as they did. Betty already reamed them for that. I think it was a mis-communication.

Taurus 66
March 12, 2006, 03:06 PM
Mis-communication?? Oleg, there are times when people just like stealing the work of others.

Lobotomy Boy
March 12, 2006, 03:50 PM
You have to pick your fights carefully in such matters. If Oleg gave permission and they abused that permission, I would suggest dealing with that in a personal rather than civil fashion. If they continued to abuse Oleg's good will, then it's time to bring in the lawyers.

PlayboyPenguin
March 12, 2006, 03:53 PM
it's time to bring in the lawyers
I thought the only time this statement was acceptable was in the coliseums of Rome during the Lion matches. :D

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