Who makes a current run bolt action w/iron sights?


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kevin387
March 12, 2006, 11:25 PM
Centerfire and preferably in 308

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Shadowhunter
March 12, 2006, 11:26 PM
Remington 700 BDL, I don't think it comes in .308 though.

ROAshooter
March 12, 2006, 11:28 PM
Rugers....and CZs come to mind

Have the Ruger in the RSI..308...the CZ in 550FS...308

cavman
March 12, 2006, 11:34 PM
you might find this helpful

"The $606 Ruger Model 77RBZ, a $716 Winchester Model 70 Classic Featherweight Stainless, and a Browning A-Bolt II Stainless Stalker, which retails for $787."


http://www.gun-tests.com/performance/oct97gggboltgun.html

cavman

edit: sorry,missed your iron sights requirement.

dm1333
March 13, 2006, 12:36 AM
They make another one, the 550 Medium(?) in 7mm. I was just on CZ-USA checking out the 527 and took a look at the 550s.

Spec ops Grunt
March 13, 2006, 12:36 AM
Try finding a left bolt in 30-06 or .243, resonbly priced, now that's hard. :( Any one know about any?:confused:

asknight
March 13, 2006, 02:13 AM
Shadowhunter, of course the Rem 700 BDL comes in .308!

Nematocyst
March 13, 2006, 03:54 AM
Go here (http://www.tikka.fi/), then follow the menus to either Battue or Battue Lite.

Nem

rangerruck
March 13, 2006, 03:58 AM
remmy's i know for sure make a fuly adj rear sight.

50caliber123
March 13, 2006, 06:00 AM
Does anyone know of a manufacturer that currently makes a rifle with aperture sights (like enfields)?

jd25q
March 13, 2006, 08:55 AM
You're thinking along the same lines I was. Just buy any good bolt action and have a nice lyman or williams aperture sight put on. With some practice these are very accurate. I've got a sporterized 03a3 with Lyman aperture and globe sight and it shoots great. For most hunting I prefer it to a scope.

You may look at the ruger, as I seem to recall someone making a rear sight that would fit the ruger receiver with no drilling required.

Z_Infidel
March 13, 2006, 09:32 AM
Savage will still make one of their scout rifles with an aperture sight in their custom shop I believe, plus their new Euro model has iron sights and comes in .308.

Bruuin
March 13, 2006, 10:14 AM
Has anyone ever seen one of those Tikka Battues in the US or know how to have them imported?

I talked to Beretta but they said I'd have to convince a dealer to buy 200 identical rifles before they would consider it.

SlimeDog
March 13, 2006, 02:24 PM
Remington Model Seven LS in 308:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3170037

ArmedBear
March 13, 2006, 02:44 PM
Do you want the iron sights as a backup, or to use?

'cuz if you are going to use irons, there are some other good, accurate rifle options out there. Or even if you're going to add a scope.

Some good .308s with other actions and iron sights, all of them a lot less $$ than an M1A:

Remington 7600 (pump action)
Browning BAR LW Stalker (autoloader)
Remington 750 Rifle and Carbine (new autoloader; supposed to have fixed 7400 problems)
Browning BLR (mag-fed levergun with an internal rotating bolt -- nice)

kevin387
March 14, 2006, 12:39 AM
just for back up, I've got a few guns but this is an itch I've wanted to scratch for a while.

Armed Bear where in SD to you usually shoot?

Nematocyst
March 14, 2006, 05:19 AM
Just buy any good bolt action and have a nice lyman or williams aperture sight put on. With some practice these are very accurate. I've got a sporterized 03a3 with Lyman aperture and globe sight and it shoots great. For most hunting I prefer it to a scope.gmarshall139, would you mind offering a few words about the "why" part?

That is, I'm curious about why you prefer the aperture sights to scopes.

I'm not disagreeing at all. I've just never used aperture's much (it's been decades, and I don't remember much about them), but I've had good luck with scopes. So I'm just curious.

As my eyes grow older, scopes seem to be more valuable than iron sights - because they allow sighting with only one focal plane (no need to put the front sight on the (out of focus) target while keeping it in the (out of focus) rear sight) even though given a choice (with better vision), I'd actually prefer iron sights. Less prone to be damaged if one drops a gun, or ...whatever.

Are the aperture sights a compromise that allow better sighting than iron sights for aging eyes?

Nem

jd25q
March 14, 2006, 09:34 AM
I like them for several reasons. One you mentioned is the rugged simplicity. The other is that I think it's more of a challenge and takes more work to maintain proficiency. I like to shoot, so thats good with me. Another is that the rifle is that much lighter and easier to handle. My 03a3 is about 7 pounds with the fairly heavy 24" barrel. I cringe every time I bang my expensive Nikon on something, even though it's always held it's zero.

One problem alot of people have with peep sights is getting the front sight centered in the aperture. A globe front sight (post with a ring around it) really eliminates this problem provided the rear aperture is sized correctly.

If your vision is not quite what it used to be then the aperture is probably not for you. Or maybe a better way to put it would be that your range would be more limited. I think anyone's is. I can hit a crow or groundhog at 100-150 yards and I might extend that to 200 for a deer. I've shot groundhogs at over 400 on our farm with a scoped rifle. I'm sure there are those that can do better, but those are my limits. I do carry a good pair of binoculars.

mustanger98
March 14, 2006, 03:14 PM
On the question of a bolt action .308 rifle with iron sights, I like Savage's Model 11G and I have one in .243Winchester... shoots good. However, which it has sights, I wound up scoping mine with see-through mounts whereas I was wanting to mount a Williams FP/TK which is do-able if I remove the scope at some point in the future.

Overall, when it comes to sights, I prefer to have an aperture rear over other types because I can look through it, find the target and the front sight, and go from there. It works better for me than any other system I know of. On my .22, I have apertures on the front and rear- look through 'em and ignore 'em and look at your target.:cool:

BTW, the only reason I have a 100yd limit for most of my shooting is that's the distance I've been able to try stuff to because that's as far as the club's range goes. I've been wanting to try stuff out to 200yds+, but known distances aren't to be had right now.

ArmedBear
March 14, 2006, 03:22 PM
Remington Model Seven LS in 308:

They're no longer in the Remington catalog (which doesn't mean that Wal-Mart won't still get them -- non-catalog guns are a pretty common thing), but if you want one, I'd get one now.

They've gone to a Model 7 CDL with no sights.

Seems not enough people want a 400 yard hunting rifle with 100 yard sights.

A .30-30 is another good option. An aperture sight and LEVERlution ammo, and you can get a well-made, great-handling gun without spending a fortune.

And you can get a .303 Brit with aperture sights, pretty cheaply at the moment...:D

For $200, you can get an Enfield with a beat stock and worn finish -- just make sure the bore is okay -- re-blue it and turn it into a Jungle Carbine lookalike with a kit from Numrich. A cool-looking, good-shooting hunting rifle, nearly good as new, for cheap, and fun to build, too. Since it's not a real JC with lightened receiver, it will shoot straight.

mustanger98
March 14, 2006, 04:34 PM
For $200, you can get an Enfield with a beat stock and worn finish -- just make sure the bore is okay -- re-blue it and turn it into a Jungle Carbine lookalike with a kit from Numrich. A cool-looking, good-shooting hunting rifle, nearly good as new, for cheap, and fun to build, too. Since it's not a real JC with lightened receiver, it will shoot straight.

Last time I checked Southern Ohio Gun they had No.4 Mk1 rifles for $105. Last one I got from AIM which they had the "Shooter Specials", I got one with nice wood, although it was a greasy mess requiring clean-up. TruOil brought out a really nice grain in that stock set. Two schools of thought as to whether or not to re-blue one, but neither way makes it shoot any straighter or less straight. And why would you want to make a Jungle Carbine look-alike?

I just wish I could get a commercial .308 barrel readily threaded to the No.4 receiver...

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