[Duncaninfrance]

The standard nipples on my .44 Remington seem to foul up quickly. Is it possible to open the hole at the base out a little without reducing cap performance so I can clean them with a watchmakers screwdriver which is 1mm dia?
Duncan

[Beartracker]

Duncan, I don't have any problems at all with my Remington nipples using Goex 3f or Pyrodex"P". It seems they are easy to clean with windex, soap and water or one of my favorites is Simple Green and pipe cleaners do a great job.Then I use a dry pipe cleaner to dry them out.
Really don't know if you can open them up with out a problem or not but I would think that you may be inviting hammer blow back and maybe a little loss in velocity. Mike

[mec]

might work but one primary cause for the semi-auto revolver syndrom is caps that have eaten themselves out bigger. Hammer blow back seems to happen on colt types though I've only heard of one that reached full cock because of it. Don't know if remingtons would be prone to it or not.

[ribbonstone]

Probably a bad idea. Larger vents promote gas blow back more than thry improve ignition.

Think I'd get a smaller 'pick' and leave the nipples alone...they'll erode themselves larger soon enough.

[sundance44s]

Don`t be drilling the nipple holes larger , bad for yer gun and bad for YOU ! may be you need to try a hotter cap ... i only use remington #10 and never have a problem ...try these.

[Duncaninfrance]

Duncan, I don't have any problems at all with my Remington nipples using Goex 3f or Pyrodex"P".

Mike, can't get much in the line of BP here but am going to try Swiss when I get into Bordeaux next.

may be you need to try a hotter cap ... i only use remington #10 and never have a problem ...try these.

I was using #10 Remingtons on Sunday which I bought in the UK last week, you can't get them in France. They still come off the nipples easily unless you squeeze them a bit. Thats on Pietta nipples. Am going to try some s/s ones soon and see how they work.
As Winston Churchill said, KBO - Keep Buggering On!
Duncan

[Low Key]

Aside from the nipples fouling a lot, do you have problems with mis-fires or hang- fires? If not, then I wouldn't worry about the fouling unless it becomes an ignition problem. I also use a pipe cleaner for cleaning mine up, if I'm going to shoot a lot I'll use the pipe cleaner on the nipples after 4 or 5 cylinders full. I have shot as many as 6 cylinders without cleaning and have not had any problems, but I dont do that everyday.

I use CCI #11 caps and I like them pretty well. No one carries Remington #10s around here this time of year and I've gotten used to the CCI. I'm using the factory nipples, which are for #10 caps. The CCI are a nice snug fit and I have to push them all the way down with a dowel rod.

[Duncaninfrance]

OK, so which is the bigger cap, #10 Remington or CCI #11? I thought it was the #11. I find it hard to get a pipecleaner through the nipple hole in the base after 1 cylinder. I wonder if it is the Hunting BP that I am using although my pal Alain swears by it.
I have been using a dowell to seat the caps but if they are loose they are loose!
I had 2 chambers hang on me last Sunday but in both cases the paper cartridge had not caught which is whay I thought to open the hole out to 1mm and pierce the cartridge before I shot.
Duncan

[Beartracker]

Duncan, #11 Remington caps are bigger than #11 CCI or I should say that #11 CCI are thicker and fit tighter than the Remington #11.
Remington #10 is a little tighter than the #11 CCI for most nipples but not always the case. #1075 German caps are about what I would call between Remington #10 and CCI #11.
So bottom line is this :
If you can find #10 Remington, #11 CCI or the German #1075 you will probably get a much better fit with either of these than you would with the #11 Remington's.
I really don't know what's going on with the nipples fouling or why they are so hard to clean.Do you have a nipple pick that will go all the way through the nipple hole? Spray the nipples from the top side with Windex or any window cleaner and then run the pipe cleaner through the nipple hole.The little wire should come out the bottom of the nipple but the pipe cleaner will not go all the way through it.. Now use another pipe cleaner with a drop of oil on it for all the nipple holes.Then a dry pipe cleaner for all the holes to dry or wipe the oil out.Then run a nipple pick through them just to make sure that there is no fibers in the hole left from the pipe cleaner. I know this sounds like a long process but it takes about three minutes to have clean and open nipples.You can eliminate the oil if you are going to shoot it again right away.
It's also a good idea after cleaning your cylinder to hold it up to a light looking through it from the chamber side and you can see if all the nipple holes are clean and free of any fibers from the pipe cleaner.
Some people like to fire 6 caps to clean and dry all the nipples but to me this a big waste of caps. As long as you have them dry and clean there is no reason for that waste. It is a good idea on rifle , shotgun or any kind of BP smoke pole where you can't tell if the nipple is really clear. Mike

[Steve499]

I'm beginning to suspect Beartracker's love of percussion revolvers is based in no small way upon the number of nipples involved! Six instead of just one... well, hey!

Steve

[sundance44s]

:eek: we gotta change the name of this thread ........ i read nipples and start thinking about all the gals i dated ... back before i discovered the HOLY BLACK stuff ..... gotta get back on trackkkkkkkkk !

[mec]

I always wondered if that punched any Victorian buttons. They couldn't even say "arms and legs" back then. Had to call 'em "Limbs." Could be why Colt Called them "tubes" and others used the word, "cones." Don't know what their standards were. Some people who would recoil from the word "leg" would write (rhythms with) " shirt" with grand impunity

" Might 'SHIRTS' on the back of reason."
-Poor Richard's Almanac
of course he was Pre Victorian.

[Duncaninfrance]

i read nipples and start thinking about all the gals i dated ... back before i discovered the HOLY BLACK stuff

Memories!!!!

I am using a 1mm dia watchmakers screwdrived as a pick at the moment. It goes through after the nipples are cleaned but will not after I have fired 6 rounds. I just thought that if I opened the holes by a Gnat's Knacker ( engineering term of measure!! ) I could keep them cleaner longer.

Oh well, back to the drawing board!
Duncan

[Beartracker]

Duncan, Send me your snail mail and I'll send you a real nipple pick. Mike

[Beartracker]

Steve, Back in my young and wild drinking days I picked up a couple of them girls and after about 10 Scotch and sodas they all had six nipples, just like my revolvers,:neener: Mike

[BP Tess]

Now fellas, I'm blushing here as I'm trying to learn more about Duncans nipple problems!:D

[gmatov]

Duncan,

You shouldn't be able to get a 1 mm screwdriver through that nipple clean.

I am not SURE what a Pietta nipple is bored to, and too cold to go to the garage to check with a wire guage, but all the Tresos and the like say they are .028, that would be .7mm. Yours are 40% oversize, by that standard.

If you are going to use paper cartridges, you are probably going to have to get a nipple pick. Both my nipple wrenches have knurled brass handled nipple picks screwed into the main shank from the rear. If you have a nipple wrench with a brass knob on the T-handle end of it, see if it unscrews, and has a wire sticking out of it.

I'm not being denigrating. If you didn't know it was there, you might think that was a nice touch, that knurled, non-slip end to speed them to seat, then grab the T handle to tighten.

One of mine, which a friend made a copy of from drill rod, a Traditions, I think, was such crappy steel I wrung the ears off the first time I used it. Took it back, they gave me another, wrung the ears off the first time I used THAT one. Another came with the navy Arms 36 Rem, same nipple pick but the T handle slips out for compact storage when you remove the nipple pick , slip out the handle, screw the pick back in.

Forget whether you have fired this pistol much. Enough to have eroded the nipple bores that large? Haven't the foggiest how many rounds that would be, probably well over a 1000 as Mike has just made a report after his first 1000 and no mention of nipple wear.

Cheers,

George

You can open your eyes now, Tess.

[Low Key]

Ive found that the factory Pietta nipples are a bit irregular in size. The Remington #11 caps have to be pinched to fit mine, could not find any remington #10 caps around here to try, CCI#11 fit well on all but 2 of the nipples on my 3 guns and I had to smooth them out (2 nipples from 2 different guns) and size down a bit with the nipple chucked in a drill and a file to take off a tiny bit of metal.

There seems to be just enough difference in size between Remington and CCI caps to confuse everyone about them. I thought my nipples were #10 since Remington #11 caps were pretty loose, but now I'm not so sure after reading Beartrackers post. I probably have the bastard size, like that one bolt they put in every Ford truck that no wrench in the world will fit...one size is too big, the next smallest is too small, metric doesn't work....:confused:

[dwave]

The Pietta nipples are not consistant with size. On my 51 I used a drimmel (not recommended by me) to get them to use #10 CCI. I ran into the problem that #11's fit on 2 of then perfect, but #10's were too small for all of them. I ended getting the drimmel out and sizing them to #10's.

[mec]

Interestingly enough, the Pietta Remington nipples screw right into a Lemat but would have to be shortened a bit to match the standard ones. A guy on one board got himself a new lemat, went out and shot it and had an 11 0'clock chain fire that carried off his loading lever. He attributes it to not having greased the balls but it might have come from a non standard cone smacking against the recoil plate.

[sundance44s]

Seems i read somewhere a while back .. that chain fires more than likely come from the rear due to impropper fit caps and such .. and happen more offen on colts rather than the remington pistols ... maybe because the gaps are so tight on the remingtons . the agruement was if you are shaveing lead when ya seat the balls how could a spark inter from the front ...i do use crisco but just on the first too balls in my remmies for lube only .. i`ve never had a chain fire ... never seen a colt have one eaither .. some of my colt shooting buds use a cloth patch under the balls because their guns are so loose huge gaps and barrel sagging problems ... but hey they still shoot`em and smile after every shot ! i remember my first experence with a remmie i didn`t know squat ! i used cci 11 caps and the first shot blew all but one cap off the nipples ... i could see where a chainfire was just waiting to happen .. been useing #10 remington caps ever since and i do push `em on with a wooden dowel ..but they stay put !

[Duncaninfrance]

So sorry for the bad language Tess, as a Gentleman of England I apologise for the rough way in which some of our company are remembering nipples. Trouble is that boys will be boys but I am sure you are perfectly able to sort them out yourself.
Good to have friends like this lot eh?
Duncan

[Steve499]

Yes it is, Duncan, yes it is.

Steve

[Boom-stick]

How do you make 4lbs of fat look good?



Put a nipple on it!!!!!!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.:)

[sundance44s]

Yeppppp its been a long winter ! cabin fever has set in ! went out for some air today ... made a burn pile and burnt up all those Cabalas boxes in the shop ... now i feel much better ! :D next thing i burn will be out of a remmie ! looks like spring is in the air !:D

[BP Tess]

Oh Duncan, I know ya'll are gentlemen...I'm just chimin' in on your little playground. I've definatly got the FEVER. I'm out in this great 60 degree weather...then it freezes the next day! I don't mind the cold but I can sure load much better with warm hands!;) . That's when those nipples are a real bummer!!!!