Mitchels Mausers M63 Tanker


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Muncus Agruncus
March 15, 2006, 07:10 PM
As I was typing this in Microsoft Word, I realized another thread about this very same rifle resurfaced, so I apologize for the duel threads.

I realize that MM rifles are a bit overpriced and the advertising is misleading. With that said the M63 Tanker sure looks appealing to me. Who here has one and what is your impression of it? I am looking for a short rifle with iron sights and the Mauser based action along with a fixed magazine.

Thanks

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asknight
March 16, 2006, 03:15 AM
I have to recommend buying your own Yugo captured Mauser and do the cleaning up yourself.

Searching around at my regular sources, it appears that the Yugo short Mauser's are getting a bit scarce. The friendly guy at http://www.classicarms.us still has quite a few.

M24/52 w/ Yugo Communist Coat of Arms N.R.A. Good Condition $139.95
http://classicarms.us/M2452JPEG.jpg

M24/47 w/ Yugo Communist Coat of Arms Good Condition $109.95 - Special Select Condition $139.95
http://classicarms.us/M2447JPEG.jpg

M48A G to VG, dark bores $89.95
http://classicarms.us/images/firearms/yugom-48a.jpg

M98/48 German made, Yugo captured, rebuilt, remarked. $139.95
http://classicarms.us/German98k.jpg

M98K Czech made at Brno during Nazi occupation, Winter triggerguards. $199.95
http://classicarms.us/m98kjpeg.jpg

That's just the short Mausers. He has a selection of the long ones too.


Edited to add: Not all of those listed are short Mausers, apparently. I'm an idiot sometimes! :)

ginge
January 29, 2008, 12:06 AM
I have a Mitchell's Mauser tapped with scope mounts and a 6X42 Leopold scope. I gave it to my son in law and am having trouble handloading with IMR4350 powder. Maybe faster powder would help velocity and accuracy? Anybody with suggetions for reloading for this 17.5 inch barrel?

BsChoy
January 29, 2008, 10:59 AM
Ginge, i've found the 49.0 grains of H4895 (the highest charge I have shot yet) gets you to 2700 fps or so with a 150 grain bullet...WWII specs were somewhere around 2800 fps so a little more powder should get you there. This powder is the second I have tried. The first was IMR4064 and that was woefully slow at 2450 fps for 47.0 and the same bullet. 4350 might work ok with heavy 200+ grainers but not much lighter than than will get as fast as some would like

xsquidgator
January 29, 2008, 11:52 AM
I've used IMR4064 and IMR4198 (did not chrono them though so no idea how they performed, but they shot stuff at 100 yards just fine!)

I use BL-C(2) for all other rifle loads and am seeking a workable BL-C(2) load for 150 grain jacketed bullets so I don't need one powder just for the Mauser. My first attempts using ordinary large rifle primers and starting loads of BL-C(2) didn't have "enough fire" to light off the powder consistently, lots of squib rounds. 50-ish grains of BL-C(2) under 150JSP? My starting loads were on the order of 44 grains of BL-C(2) with those bullets.

rr2241tx
January 29, 2008, 12:00 PM
For the shorter barrels you get better speed with faster powders, but you give up some of the huge fireball. IMR-3031 might be a good one to try with a 150 gr bullet, but it generates too much peak pressure with heavy bullets. If you're serious, get a pike length rifle, fix bayonets and charge 'em!

rr2241tx

Smokey Joe
January 29, 2008, 12:20 PM
I hereby nominate:MM rifles are a bit overpriced and the advertising is misleading. as the Understatement Of The Year for 2008. And it's only January!

Cosmoline
January 29, 2008, 01:17 PM
They're not true Mauser carbines, they're a sales ploy. For the price they're charging you can get a REAL carbine that will go up in value instead of some joke that will engender snickers if you try to sell it to someone who's bothered to look at Military Mauser Rifles of the World.

Look, it took me under a minute to find this genuine FN contract mauser carbine at about the price of the "tanker" nonsense, and it's in .30'06. Quite a piece of history:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=90986256

Jubjub
January 29, 2008, 01:43 PM
I use BL-C(2) for all other rifle loads and am seeking a workable BL-C(2) load for 150 grain jacketed bullets so I don't need one powder just for the Mauser. My first attempts using ordinary large rifle primers and starting loads of BL-C(2) didn't have "enough fire" to light off the powder consistently, lots of squib rounds. 50-ish grains of BL-C(2) under 150JSP? My starting loads were on the order of 44 grains of BL-C(2) with those bullets.

I just happened to have my Speer #13 manual sitting right here when I read that. They list a BL-C(2) load for the 8mm 150 grain. 40 grains starting, 44 grains max. They show magnum primers for that powder.

You might want to try magnum primers and a lot less powder.:eek:

Mr_Pale_Horse
January 29, 2008, 02:39 PM
For a non collector who wants a 'last a lifetime like new mauser shooter', they are certainly cheaper than these:

http://www.mauserwaffen.de/98-Rifle-and-98K-Carbine.160.0.html?&L=1

If you have to ask how much, then you cannot afford them ;)

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