[dinosaur]

Was reading the Flashing in the Locker Room thread so I thought I post this.

I hit 2 docs once every three months and never on the same day. One`s the GP and the other the Cardio guy. Both are very cool and kind of know since I`m an ex cop but I still don`t flash. Nurses, secretaries, one time even a med salesperson, very cute, should have flashed her.:D

I used to leave them in the car but that`s nuts. My rides are new and expensive so even though the area is pretty secure, you never know. Besides, when I lived in NYC it wasn`t unheard of for Drs. offices to be held up.

Now usually I belt carry so what I do leave the holsters home and vest carry. I picked up a leather one at a gunshow a few years ago that has inside gun pockets. $70. Good biker type leather too and I usually wear it anyway. I carry my MK9 strong hand and my Colt DS weekhand cross draw. The pockets snap closed so they can`t be seen accidently. Not quick but the vest evens out weightwise. The only thing I do is make sure I take it off before the weigh in. Hey, I`m not fat, I`m armored.:D

So what do you do?

[Smoke]

Non-issue. Can't carry in Hospitals here anyway.

I don't find it necessary to carryt in every instance anyway. Odds very slim that anything will happen between the car and the docs office.

[VOD]

Ever consider something like a fanny pack/belly bag? I used one for a majority of my carry when I lived in Florida. Carry in your holster until you get to the docs, switch to the belly bag to keep it out of sight, when you are presentable again, the gun goes back in the holster.

Another solution might be a mouse gun to stash in your pants?

Just my 2 cents.

[Kentucky Rifle]

..for a "Pro-Time" test (to see how "thick" my blood is), for him to check my bad back, plus have him look at every damn thing else that's gone wrong with my body. ~Surgery AGAIN~ next month:mad: (Last time it liked to kill me! The "tumor" was golfball size. It was a tiny, still shiny metal screw that had developed layer upon layer of "stuff" on it. Like I was some kind of oyster making a pearl! After all these years...) Anyway, I always pack. He ALWAYS askes to see which weapons I have "on me today". You see, I've had the same doc since the war and he LIKES firearms. I wouldn't go to a doctor who disapproved of my habit..er..hobby~yeah, that's the ticket! :) When the nurse weighs me, I always unstrap and say, Here Dear~hold this for me. Hold my cane too. Unless the nurse is new, she justs holds out her hands for my "gear" without my asking.

I'm STILL here,
KR

[Jax]

Non-issue. Can't carry in Hospitals here anyway.

Smoke,

You are correct in that the law *used* to be that way. However, the law was changed with the addition of section (i) of the code.

You can read it HERE (http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pe/pe0004600.html#pe003.46.03).

Hospitals, amusement parks, churches and governmental meetings must now provide effective notice under 30.06 just like most other places.

HTH,

Jax

[boing]

I guess I'll be the one to ask KR how he got a tumor-pearling metal screw inside him...?

The doctor's office sounds like a job for off-body carry: fanny pack, brief case, day planner, or some such. Transfer from your regular carry mode to the off-body option before you go in, and back again when you come out. No need to give up your preferred carry method all day just to run into the doc's, especially for off-body carry.

Pocket carry works, too. :)

[IRONFIST]

My wife and I were driving around Portland when I had a good amount of sudden chest pain and shortness of breath. As luck would have it I was 3 blocks from my regular doctors office at the time. We went in and got to see him immediately. Back then I always carried my P14-45. in a Nelson shoulder rig and because it was so comfortable I had truly forgotten that I had it on. My Doc came in then and asked me to remove my overshirt. I very calmly told him that I had a pistol under my shirt and that I didnt want to alarm him. His eyes got a bit wider but he didnt freak out. My wife put the gun and rig on the back of a chair and there were no problems. He knew that I was a Bouncer and that I certainly had a motivation to carry. He also wanted to see the pistol and to handle it(after I had unloaded it, of course). Very interested in it and was shocked at how heavy it was. When we went to the part of the doctors office where they drew blood, he told the lady tech very quietly what I had so she wouldnt be frightened. She was very cool about it and we talked guns while she drained me. Turned out she CCW'ed also. My doctor and his office staff rock and I am lucky to have this guy. All-in-all, a good experience. BTW- I was actually fine, just had a pulled muscle in my chest that I hadnt known was there until I moved a certain way, then tons o' pain, and felt like a heart attack.

Michael in Sandy, OR

[sm]

My personal physician and I have known each othera long time. In fact we used to compete as partners. He also is CCW'er, as is/are some of his partners, nurses and staff. He /they provide a secure lock box(s) in the event one has to have a procedure/test run. X-ray, treadmill, and the like. Advantages of a private office setting.

Heck last time I was in he patted me down in front of a patient, a Sheriff no less , which led to coffee, do-nuts and a "gun consultation" meaning we shot the breeze and talked guns. Sheriff and I got a laugh, and plan to arrange a range session.

Hospitals are still off limits here.

I tend to make choices based on pro RKBA first, then check the other creditentials.

[George Hill]

Was at a chiropractor some years ago.
First thing he said was "Dont sit with that wallet in your pack pocket."
I said "Well, it's not the wallet that is causing the problem..." I unclip my IWB and pull out the HK USP .40 full size and set it down on the desk...
He blinked rapidly 4 or 5 times.
Then he said, "Yeah, that is the problem. You should wear two of those to balance the spine."

Cool Doc.

[Doc]

Armed patients are not only welcomed, they are encouraged at my office. Staff are all aware that patients may be 'packing'.

[sm]

Doc, Welcome to THR!
Good to hear if ever up your way, there is one of "us".

Years ago dropped off two cased firearmsat my doc's office, patient noticed my attire Khaki's, oxford shirt... (casual) and the two 'packages'. " Is he a doctor?. Reply" Nope he takes care of accts receivable".:D

Should have seen the looks of those paying on accts.:D
My doc laughted so hard he spilled his coffee.

[Khornet]

and welcome at my office, too. The Doc is always armed. Leads to fun conversations, and is a great ice-breaker.

[Kentucky Rifle]

Long ago in "The Land Of Bad Things", those inventive little guys would put all kinds of small sharp things on something that was intended to explode and hurt you. There were two of us, just drag-assing back to a fire base in the dark. We were on a little animal path. Yeah, yeah. Stay OFF the paths. I KNOW it was wrong. But we were so tired, it was difficult to put one foot in front of the other. I must have stepped over the wire~the other guy did not. I heard a *click*, and I knew what was going to happen. (Figuring that I was dead anyway, I did an imitation of a spin-around by "Dr. J" and, amazingly, the explosion did not happen for a couple of seconds.) I had time to grab his clumsy "alpha" and fall on top of him. He ended up without a scratch and I ended up with tiny little pieces of sharp metal things all OVER my back side. (Head to heal.) The last one that the doc took out was between my shoulder blades. THIS one is behind my left ear. My ONE AND ONLY working ear. (I'm deaf as a post on the right.) I'm kinda scared to have it removed. They can't really tell what it is, but it looks like a little metal wire or something. My one good ear~DAMMIT!!

Ah, well. You asked.<shrug>
KR

[Hkmp5sd]

If the doc or nurse do not see my gun, they always ask where it is. When they do see it, we generally have a discussion about the various firearms we own.

[El Tejon]

Dino, I mean, geez, my doctor has "seen it all." Seeing me with my pistols on is not that big a deal to him. Of course, my doc got his eyes lasered and his first comment to me was, "it's really helped my skeet shooting." I leave my clothes on for my dentist.

Doc, it's good to see you here. Hope you swing by more.

Ladies and gentlemen of THR, I give you a welcome addition to THR and my friend, Doc. The world's most tactical OB/GYN, noted gunrag author, unrepentent gun nut, and husband of the world's most tactical mom/bison hunter.:D BTW, if anyone wants to know how to get their wife involved in shooting/hunting or how to obtain approval from the "Department of Treasury" (aka, the wife), Doc is THE man.

Doc, do not let them give you any grief just because you know El Tejon either.:)

[Doc]

El Tejon, you are too kind.

I don't know nothing about shooting or fighting, but if it was me...I'd leave my clothes on at the dentist too! :p

Obtaining permission from 'The Executive Committee' is at times difficult - remember the EXC authorizes ALL expenditures from the treasury - but jewelery and expensive vacations always help obtain forgiveness.

[Stevie-Ray]

I was thinking of wearing one that prints rather well, the next visit to the urologist. Maybe he'll take that as a "be gentle" when he sez, "put your elbows on the table.":D

[bogie]

I definitely wouldn't carry to the dentist. That's one situation where I _know_ I'd get in trouble...

"Okay, Bogie, put that down, and open wide... Put it down... PLEASE, put it down..."

[Doc]

just for the record, I was at the dentist this morning on my way to the office.

I had two choices: leave my suitcoat on while being drilled and filled or leave the gun in the car.

I left the gun in the gun vault (bolted to the transmission hump) in the car, but if it had been a bad neighborhood or I was to be in there longer I would have left the suitcoat on.

Doc

[El Tejon]

Doc, so, bison meat causes dental carries? Maybe you shouldn't gnaw on the bones?:p

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Damn...I wish ya'll were my doctors.

[dinosaur]

Smoke, this in is the office not the hospital. Even so, I don`t think there`s a ban there. I went for some tests at the local hospital earlier this month and didn`t even think about it. Two guns in the vest.:)

When I first moved here I had to find a chiropractor. I told him I thought some of my problem was from carrying IWB for over 20 years. He bought a gun from me.:D I was there the other day and showed him the used Glock 30 I just bought.

With the other guys I let sleeping dogs lie. There aren`t too many antis here but then again except for hunting, guns aren`t a topic of conversation.

[COHIBA]

just dont get it near an MRI.

[Doc]

now that would be interesting, wearing your gun into the MRI suite...and I was worried about my watch...

two observations:

states differ on CCW in hospitals, make sure you know your state's law

and guns are always safer on the hip than locked in the car,
but as Mas Ayoob says,
'obey the laws, ALL THE LAWS' regarding CCW because
(1) you dont want to be the test case and
(2) you don't have any legal ground on which to stand if you break the law to keep your gun 'safe'
by taking it into a hospital et al., you are withing the boundries if you lock it securely in the car.
I recommend a box bolted to the transmission hump

just MHO

[El Tejon]

When in grad skul in Chitown, a couple of private security guards at Good Shepard got stuck after chasing a homeless guy into the MRI room. Think that was '94 if I remember right. Can't remember how long they were stuck there, no injuries, just pride.

[pax]

Today I was at the doctor's office getting a med change for the asthma (I hate spring). Doc asked what my asthma triggers were. I answered, "Dust, mold, cigarette smoke, some perfumes -- oh, and I've been doing a lot of shooting and I'm pretty sure the gun smoke is setting it off too. Um, don't put that in your notes." Doc laughed, went on with questions.

When done talking medical stuff, doc said, "Now tell me about your shooting. What kind of shooting do you do? You been at it very long?"

I answered, "Handguns, self defense kind of stuff." Talked for a few minutes about the local gun school (www.firearmsacademy.com) and the free classes they are offering that I've been helping with.

At one point, doc said, "So how'd you get interested in handguns and self defense?"

"That's a long story, but basically, when we moved out here to the middle of nowhere and my husband was working evenings and late nights, I figured it'd be awhile before the cops showed up if I had to call 911. Thought about getting a shotgun, but -- you've met my boys! -- a loaded shotgun in the back room is dangerous, and if it's not loaded --"

"--it's useless if it's not loaded. Takes too long to get to."

"Exactly. So I got a handgun and keep it on me all the time. No chance the kids can get at it, and I can get at it if I need to."

"All the time?" Doc's eyebrows shot up suddenly. "Here??" This one was a visual, folks -- every woman has seen a guy's eyeballs wobble a time or two. Poor doc ran his eyes up and down my outfit, looking for the gun. Didn't spot it, since it was stashed under my jacket in the chair next to me. Was funny to watch him look though. :D

Anyway, he asked very nicely if he could see what I carry, so I got it out and showed it to him.

Turns out the doc is looking for a carry gun of his own. :cool:

pax

The wise individual doesn't get too attached to any of life's pleasures, knowing that wonderful science is hard at work proving it's bad for him. -- Bill Vaughan

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Cool doctor Pax.

[Soap]

Welcome to THR Doc! I'm El Tejon's friend that always comes over to his place to leech off of his book collection. :o :D

[lee n. field]

> I recommend a box bolted to the transmission hump

Which I think may be illegal in the P.R. of Illinois. I know hidden compartments are.

[Doc]

>> I recommend a box bolted to the transmission hump

>Which I think may be illegal in the P.R. of Illinois. I know hidden compartments are.

(1) Obey all the laws (see previous post)
(2) Know all the laws
(3) Mine is not hidden in any way, it is clearly in plain sight; but you don't want to be the test case for the precedent, even if you win.