TAURUS PT92AF RANGE REPORT


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Lebben-B
March 25, 2006, 08:08 AM
Let me preface this post by saying I'm still a .45 kinda grunt.

Earlier in the month I had purchased a used FN Forty-Nine hand gun (I got a great deal on it.) Fit and function on it were very good, though the DAO trigger was heavy. During the weekly trip to the range, the wife and son positively despised the trigger pull of the FN. So the next day we went out and I traded it in on a Taurus PT92-AF.

I am no fan of the M9. I hate location of the decocker/safety on the slide and the fact that it can't be carried in condition one status. The Taurus solves this issue by putting the decocker/safety on the frame, the way JMB intended. (BTW, at this point I can hear the Beretta fans getting spun up.)

Metero Data:
Temp - 60 deg F
Wind - 5 kts steady, gusting to 8 kts (est)
Rel Humidity - ~65%

Range Data:
100m outdoor range, covered firing points
pistol fired at 3, 5, 7, 15, and 25 yds.
Targetry - FBI silhouette, NRA 25 yd bullseye

Ammo Data:
WWB 115gr FMJ
WWB 147gr JHP
UMC 115gr FMJ
FED 135gr JHP
CorBon 125gr JHP(+P)

Personal Data:
6'-1'
175 lbs
Large hands

Pistol Fit and Finish
The fit of the PT92 was excellent. Everything was snug and parts moved smoothly. The finish, anodized black, was good but not great. The etched lettering on the slide was filled with gold paint. I could have done without this touch, but that's merely a reflection of my personal aesthetics and it doesn't impact the function of the gun one way or another. A nice touch was the inclusion of an integral picatinny rail for the mounting of lights/lasers. The pistol ships with 2 17-round mags. While the mags seem to be of sturdy manufacture, I have my doubts about their logevity given the fact that you're stuffing 17 rounds in the same space as 15. My thinking is the mag springs will wear out quickly.

Shooting Impressions
Overall the pistol fired over 300 rounds of various sorts. There were no failures of any kind to report. The single action was good, with no take-up and a small bit of over-travel, breaking at about 4 pounds. The double action was long and somewhat gritty. As with most 9mm pistols, the PT92 is very controllable with negligible muzzle flip. Sights are of the standard 3-dot variety and stand out well against the target. The rear sight is drift adjustable for windage but the front sight is fixed. Owners wishing to upgrade their sights to luminous/self-luminous sights will have to either paint the front dot with luminescent paint or have a gunsmith drill out the front sight a bit and insert a tritium capsule

At all ranges, the pistol was easily capable of 2"-4" groups. The best groups were fired using the UMC 115gr - 1.5" @ 15 yds, 2.25" @ 25 yds.

This is a big pistol, particularly for the caliber. The M9/Beretta/Taurus isn't built. It's over-built. I personally think that this is due to the use of an aluminium frame. The original design dates to the 1970's and reflects '70's technology. My guess is Beretta wanted to ensure the pistol frame could withstand the beating and abuse it's intended audiences (LEO/Military) would give it. I have fairly big hands and had no problems handling the the controls or firing the PT92. My wife was also able to generate solid groups with it, as was my 13 yr old son.

The Taurus PT92 will not change anybody's mind about hi-cap 9's. It's a solid pistol and enjoyable to shoot. This is a lot of pistol for the money and all things being equal, I would recommend it over the Beretta by dint of it's control location.

Mike

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wally
March 25, 2006, 09:12 AM
My 17-round PT-92 mags have held up well so far. What I like is if you buy a third you can load a box of 50 as 17,17, 16 and not have any loose rounds left over. I load them before I head to the range.

--wally.

MICHAEL T
March 25, 2006, 04:26 PM
I have a stainless one I fired one mag. full. I think the gun sucks and went back to my 1911 If our troops are packen this oversized POS with Beretta name on it then people that pushed that thru should be used for targets.
Mine back in box and will be used for trading. I guess I should say I don't like the pistol but box is nice .

Manedwolf
March 25, 2006, 04:35 PM
I have a stainless one I fired one mag. full. I think the gun sucks and went back to my 1911 If our troops are packen this oversized POS with Beretta name on it then people that pushed that thru should be used for targets.
Mine back in box and will be used for trading. I guess I should say I don't like the pistol but box is nice .

Oookay, then. :scrutiny: After trying to figure out that bit reminiscent of a Faulkner character, I would say that the author was speaking of a TAURUS, an "improvement" on the original Beretta design, not a Beretta itself.

And I love my PT92. It's an older one, with the closer serrations on the slide and no decocker, and it's a good gun, I think. (No bright painted letters on the slide, either!) Accurate, negligable recoil, and with something that heavy, no worries about +P+.

Mine seems to like 124gr +P the best, as far as accuracy.

Lebben-B
March 25, 2006, 04:36 PM
I think the gun sucks and went back to my 1911

What didn't you like about it?

Lebben-B
March 25, 2006, 04:40 PM
Mine seems to like 124gr +P the best, as far as accuracy.

I'm glad you posted that. The Taurus manual is vague when it comes to use of +P ammo. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Mike

Manedwolf
March 25, 2006, 04:54 PM
Well, it SAYS it's not recommended, but I think that's just the company's legal department talking. Just so someone can't put in an overly hot +P handload, have a problem, and then sue the company. They have it covered. :D

But I've never heard of anyone having a problem with it. The only recommendation I've heard is that if you use +P regularly, to replace the recoil spring with a heavier one than the stock. Wolff Springs has them, they're only $4 each, and the gun is so easy to pop apart in seconds to strip that you can change the spring for practice with 115gr whitebox vs. +P or +P+ loads.

As for functioning, I've put Hornady TAP 124gr, Cor-Bon 124gr +P, all sorts through it with no FTFs. Just make sure you get Taurus original or Mec-Gar mags for it, I've heard terrible things (usually involving profanity) from people who have tried to use Promags. :D

D-Man
March 25, 2006, 06:44 PM
When looking at my 1st handgun, I was able to shoot both a Beretta 92 and Taurus 92. They were nice, though I gave the edge to the Beretta - possibly due to the fact they had Hogue grips on them. Sure, it's a 'big' gun for a 9MM, but it gives you a nice, stable platform to shoot with, so I think that's a plus.

In the end, I chose a Baby Eagle 9MM, which I'm very happy with.

Hardware
March 25, 2006, 07:02 PM
I had an older PT92 back in the early 90's. It was a good gun, but I swapped it away a long time ago. But it was so good that I bought a 92AF recently. They function exactly the same except for the decocker on the AF.

They both function best with 115 grain JHPs.
They both generate the occasional flinger with lead round nose.
The factory mags rattle when fully loaded.
They both function flawlessly with modified Berretta magazines in the well.
Berretta magazines don't have that annoying rattle.

CAnnoneer
March 25, 2006, 07:12 PM
PT92 is a big gun for 9mm? You guys have not played with Ruger P series then. :) Hehehehehe.

Actually I have both a Taurus PT92AFS and a Ruger KP89. IMO, both are exceptional shooters, albeit different in many respects.

The PT92AFS is a great gun for the money. Mine is brand new and I have already put hundreds of CCI 115gr through it without a hitch. The gun is more accurate than I am, points naturally, and feels very tight mechanically. The frame-mounted decocker/safety is wonderful. I agree the DA trigger is a bit raspy next to the SA, but I hope it will work itself out over time. If anything, the gun is pretty light, at least compared to my Ruger.

The only gripes I have with the design are:
1) the exposed barrel burns me when I forget and touch it
2) there is less cartridge support than the Ruger
3) The magazine release is not ambidextrous.

Overall, a great gun at a great price. I got mine (stainless) for $399 NIB.

Manedwolf
March 25, 2006, 08:08 PM
The hogue grips are a must, to me. Very comfortable shooter with those on it.

threefeathers
March 25, 2006, 11:32 PM
I think this is a best buy. I have two of them and haven't had a misfire yet. I use them to loan G I's on the Ft. H plinking range so then get time for some training. It is really popular. Mine like 124 grain pills best but shoot Wally world stuff fine.

buttrap
March 26, 2006, 06:52 AM
I really like mine..much better gun than my GI 1911 even.

clown714
March 26, 2006, 07:50 AM
my pt-99 has an ambi-mag release.

clown

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