[seancashmere]

Just curious. To be honest, I don't even know where to start. Where would I even look to find laws and the sort on owning a gun in my state? For a fact, I know it's unlike Florida or Texas where it's widely considered that next to everyone owns a gun. So anyway, I live in New York City and am interested in gun ownership, precisely where do I start? Thanks in advance.

[NewShooter]

Start by getting out of New York. :neener: Sorry, I couldnt resist. Someone will be along shortly with some good links. Welcome to THR.

[seancashmere]

Thanks, and that was cute.:barf:

[Bulldozer]

I recommend http://www.packing.org

It will provide you with detailed links on the process. NY State will require you to secure a handgun permit before you can buy any pistol. These are handled at the County level typically.

[Otherguy Overby]

from: http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/nypd/pdf/dclm/title38-rcny.pdf

Rifle/shotgun permit. The term "rifle/shotgun permit" shall mean the permit issued by the New
York City Police Department for the purchase and possession of rifles or shotguns.
Shotgun. The term "shotgun" shall mean a “shotgun” as defined in § 265.00 of the New York
State Penal Law, except that for purposes of this chapter a shotgun shall have a barrel length of
no less than eighteen inches and an overall length of no less than twenty-six inches.
Storage permit. The term "storage permit" shall mean the permit for the storage of more than
two hundred (200) rounds of ammunition issued by the Fire Commissioner.
§ 1-03 Applications. (a) A fee of $150 shall accompany the application. All permits expire on
the first day of the second January following the date of issuance of the permit and may be
renewed thereafter. The renewal fee is also $150. The applicant shall pay the applicable fee
with a certified check or money order payable to "N.Y.C. Police Department."
(b) All applications, renewals, inquiries and information concerning licenses for dealers
in rifles and shotguns shall be made to the Rifle/Shotgun Section, License Division, New York
City Police Department, 120-55 Queens Blvd., Kew Gardens, New York, 11424, (718)
520-9300. The Rifle/Shotgun Section shall prescribe the manner by which such license is issued.

Now that's just for long guns. Handguns are an order of magnitude more difficult for "citizens" to obtain and license. IOW, moving is an easier option.

[PATH]

It is just easier to move out of the city. When you deal with the folks at one police plaza you'll see what I mean. One major reason I left for the northern burbs.

[seancashmere]

Darn, it's restricitive even for a in-residence only permit. Is it this hard elsewhere? I don't really want a CCW, just the ability to own one and keep it in my home. I noticed Connecticut issues non-resident permits.. I figured I'd just go there and apply, but my city doesn't even recognize it. Still, if approved in CT, would a dealer sell me a gun even though I live in NYC? Would I even be approved for a non-resident license being that my home address is in NYC? Thanks!

[PATH]

Connecticut will issue if you have an unrestricted permit from another government entitiy.(See packing.org). The Connecticut license does not help in NYC or NY State as you cannot even touch a pistol without a license issued here. NYC does not recognize the rest of NYS except for retired PD. The rest of the state must recognize NYC carry though. Unfair to be sure but there you have it.

Connecticut gun dealer would have to send your pistol to a New York FFL in any case who needs a wee slip of paper issued by the proper authority. As you have no pistol license the FFL would not releaase the firearm to you. If he did you would both be visited by various governmental authority figures.

Once you cross the Yonkers line going north the process of obtaining a target permit becomes "somewhat" less draconian. I really feel for you and the rest of the folks in the Peoples Republic run by Mike the RINO Bloomberg.

A better layout of the Information can be found as noted at www.packing.org

Good luck to you!;) :D

[seancashmere]

I guess it's back to water pistols for me. Those fees they're asking are a whallop too. I don't know that any of this is Mayor Mike's fault though. Hasn't this been long the deal in the city? I guess the right to bear arms is only a right outside of NYC. Anyway, thanks for all of your help. I think I'm deterred. I guess that's the city's intention in the first place.

[cbsbyte]

I have heard both on this site and from people I know that use to live in NYC that it is near impossible to get a handgun permit in the city. Only the most determined person with money, time and plenty of patience and who is willing to work the system maybe will have some sucess. In truth only celebrities, city polticians, ex-cops and well off important people can get a pistol permit in the city. For everyone else, in most cases it will be fruitless endover. Oh BTW the city council will probably take your water pistols, toy guns away too if they have there way.

[gunsmith]

had no problem getting them, so become a rich white guy and you'll be fine.

I hear if you jump through all the hoops and get your residence permit and have the temerity to ask why it's taking over a year that they put you file on the bottom of the pile and it takes another year.

welcome to thr btw, it's not that hard to relocate! I did it and I'm glad I did

[Graystar]

I have heard both on this site and from people I know that use to live in NYC that it is near impossible to get a handgun permit in the city.
You heard wrong. While it's extremely difficult to get a concealed carry license, getting a premise license is not a problem. It's a tidious, time consuming process, but it doesn't require any special connections or wads of cash (other than that wad it takes to get the process going.) If you've got a clean record then chances are very good that you'll get a premise license.

[PATH]

Graystar is correct. You can get a premise permit when you jump through the appropriate hoops!

[Wedge]

From my experience in New York state (not the city I was upstate in Rochester), everyone said how hard it was to get a CCW. Everyone told me that I would pay a ton of money, wait 6-12 months, and then have my permit restricted to target and hunting. I didn't care, went ahead and did it anyways...

7 weeks and $100 later I had my complete, unrestricted CCW...that is cheaper and faster than a lot of SHALL ISSUE states.

Moral of the story is to just do it, unless the other people own a firearm they don't know what they are talking about. Best of luck - make the effort.

[cbsbyte]

I must of confused what I heard about the diffculty of obtaining CCW permits in NYC to getting a regular pistol permit.

[PATH]

You can believe the stories about NYC because they are a pain in the neck with firearms.

seancashmere,

Mike Bloomberg has announced he will campaign nationally for more stringent gun laws. Translation: Turn in your gun laws!

[gunsmith]

just curious, does your unrestricted permit allow carry in NYC??

I was under the impression it does not

[PATH]

gunsmith,

A permit from anywhere in the state outside of NYC, unrestricted or not, is not recognized in NYC. A NYC permit is recognized throughout the state.
See www.packing.org

[Poodleshooter]

7 weeks and $100 later I had my complete, unrestricted CCW...that is cheaper and faster than a lot of SHALL ISSUE states.
True, an unrestricted upstate NY permit is pretty good for carry once you get it, but then again, those of us in shall issue states don't need permits to actually buy or possess our pistols. We don't have lists of the handguns we own written on our permits (for most of us,anyway). We can borrow other people's handguns for the weekend, shoot them, then give them back. We don't have to request that additional pistols be added to the backs of our permits. You wouldn't get arrested if you moved into our states with handguns you owned in a previous state. These new manufactured 17rd magazines are pretty nice in our handguns,too. :neener:

Sarcasm aside, I encourage the original poster to go through the NYC process. A regulated pistol is better than no pistol at all.

[gunsmith]

I thought as much, I really miss camping in NY state, I was a boyscout in NY and camped all over NY it's really beautifull there, but there is no way I can visit NY and not bring my gun, at least if I visit CA I can bring my one or two of my guns

[mp510]

You would be correct in claiming that the origin of the NYC laws is not Mayor Mike's fault. NYC was among the first places to have gun control regulations, with the Sullivan Act (1911). The thing is, the administration (both R and D ) of NYC is anti-gun, and only makes the situation better, or keeps it the same.

I bet you could probably get a premisis permit a lot easier than a carry permit.
One also believes that a long gun would be easier for you to obtain as well.

Good Luck!

[perpster]

Well now, the question that started this thread was about BUYING a gun in NYC. It asked nothing about permits.

From what I've heard, you can EASILY buy a gun in NYC. Just look for the open car trunk on the streets of certain neighborhoods. They don't usually charge sales tax either (but you probably won't get a receipt).

Of course, if you are a law abiding citizen this won't be an option. But it doesn't seem to stop a lot of other people. So much for gun control.
[sarcasm off]