[jsalcedo]

www.crankyfarmer.com

Advice from the Crankyfarmer:


Gun owners, if you want to keep your firearms rights. Don't preach to the choir. Make sure you let non firearm owners know the positive facts on gun ownership, and the dire consequences of an unarmed people. Most people only hear what the media spoon feeds them.

Make sure you waste the gun control lobbies money. Call them on
their 1-800 toll free lines. Don't argue with them, just lead them on and run up their phone bills. While they talk to you, no one can call in on that line and make a donation. Then request all the information you can get, have them send you piles of flyers, videos, and anything you can. Tell them you are going to "hand them out, or put on a seminar". You know what to do with it when it shows up in mail! All these items cost them money.

Make a list of toll free phone numbers on a small note card and put it above any public phone where shooters congregate, so they can call too. Bars are great places for this.
Remember don't make any threats, and don't break any laws.

[nsf003]

I've already done this twice with Brady's STOP2 kit. I ordered it right off their site. It can be found here, (http://www.ifcweb.com/bradycenter/)

What are some 1800 numbers?

nsf003

[TheeBadOne]

Did you take their home safety 'quiz'? It's a true/false. Even when you answered "false" like they want you to on a question, it still says, "Caution, you may still be in danger" if you answered the 1st question "true" (there is a gun in the home). From their on you're never safe no matter what you answer, because you have a gun in your home.

[nsf003]

I hated that dumb yellow light. "Caution, your family may be in danger" blink blink blink. At least I think it blinked.

nsf003

[Standing Wolf]

I definitely don't want to be on their mailing, telemarketing, and E-mail lists!

I'm already neck-deep in online Viagra without prescription, breast enhancement schemes, amazing mortgage deals that won't last another 24 hours, red-hot European teens, more online Viagra without prescription, get rich quick at home sending out spam schemes, still more online Viagra without prescription, Nigerian scams, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[Double Maduro]

Standing Wolf,

Sounds like they know you.

LOL

[bfason]

Make sure you waste the gun control lobbies money. Call them on their 1-800 toll free lines.

And those of you with war-dialers, we can't say it here, but you know what to do!

;)

[Drjones]

This is really a great idea.

Thank you for the link to the Brady kit. I ordered 2, and will continue to order more.

I just HAVE to prevent myself from reading any of that garbage, or I'll fly off the handle, I just know it.

Maybe I'll use the stuff as targets. :)

[Wildalaska]

Now if everybody here made up about 25 phoney names and adresses and submitted them, lets see that would be about 125,000 pieces of mail that would be sent out and returned as undeliverable...hmmm...

Naw I would never do anything like that

WilddoctorjoesmithjimjonesfrankrosseveltbillclintondickhardstevemcqqueenarnielubavitchalonzojohnsonAlaska

[SkunkApe]

I think that technique is a little tacky. This is supposed to be the High Road. What if the Brady folks had all their members flood this site with posts, consuming all the available bandwidth?

I know most of the gun control folks are dishonest and unscrupulous, but does that mean we should be also?

[jsalcedo]

When someone is trying to take away your civil rights with lies, deceit and propaganda it is fair to use their own programs against them.

Just like the pro-gun forces that grabbed up the gun control websites that were a day late for renewal.

[nsf003]

2 more orders sent. Dr John Roxbury and Marcus Lacomb.

nsf003

[Chuck Dye]

There is such a thing as theft by deception, both in law and in mainstream moral thinking.

That having been said, remember that WATS line (800, 888,877, etc.) calls cost the receiver an additional $0.28, or whatever the current amount is, when placed from payphones. Remember, also, that *67 defeats caller ID.

[bfason]

Remember also that *67 does not override the trap and trace features of 800, 888, 877, and 900 numbers. When you call, they get your phone number regardless of whether you're listed or not. Also, if they have configured their system properly, then can easily rig it so that your name and address instantly pop up on their computer screen, and your DOB, SSN, every address you've ever reported, everyoen you have ever lived with, every car you own, the mortgage on your house, etc. Believe me, there's a hell of a lot you can do with just a phone number, or just a license plate - and you don't need to be an agent of The Matrix to do it. To defeat the trap and trace feature, you'd have to use a pre-paid phone card. Also, test the card on a friend's caller ID ahead of time to make sure that it does not send along your phone's ID. And pay cash for that pre-paid card. And don't use it for any other missions otherwise they might put two and two together. And remember to wear dark sunglasses and use a voice-changer, and look for the white rabbit.....







:p

[blades67]

I ordered a kit, just so I can show people the lies the brady bunch are telling them.

Everyday in the United States, 84 people die in shootings associated with "suicide, homicide, and unintentional injuries." Ten of those who die are children

Let's see how those numbers shake out. 84*365=30660. Then it follows that 3650 children die each year, but we don't know how many of those "children" are between the ages of 18 to 24.:scrutiny: So the numbers don't tell us anything other than that the brady center can't be trusted to tell the truth.:scrutiny:

[MicroBalrog]

What's a war-dialer?
And yeah, ruin them in any way you can.
Phone them, hack their website, whatevere,

[MicroBalrog]

Long as you're not harming anybody through direct violence, of course.

[Chuck Dye]

Who would use a prepaid phone card for a toll free call?

[Mark Tyson]

I think this is corny - not exactly taking the high road, if you ask me.

[Chuck Dye]

We now have a "corny," a "tacky," and an amoral and illegal "theft by deception." Is it too late to add a poll to this thread?

[ahadams]

besides being, tacky, corny, and not overly mature, you might also want to check before advocating the use of war dialers since in some states use of that sort of thing to harass someone or damage their business would make the user liable to civil (and I believe in some cases criminal) prosecution.

[bfason]

check before advocating the use of war dialers since...

Good thing no one advocated using one!

Who would use a prepaid phone card for a toll free call?

Someone who doesn't want to get caught.

Hey, we're just joking around. We need to beat these people in the court of public opinion.

Here's the latest "assault weapon" propaganda from VPC. http://www.vpc.org/graphics/awfactsheet.pdf
Look for this stuff to start appearing in newspaper columns near you. Also, I wonder how long it will be before some politician holds a press conference to wave around some mean-lookin' rifle. Which politician will it be this time?

[zastros]

BTW generally those packets come with return envelopes which also cost them money...if you're really wondering what to do with the contents of the packet that they sent you in the first place.

On the other hand, they call anyone that has requested one of their packets a member of their organization. So, for every packet you, or your alternate personalities, order they claim their group is that much larger.

[HBK]

I really can't read that crap. It makes my head hurt and I'm sure it's not good for the blood pressure.:banghead:

[Leatherneck]

WHAT'S A WAR DIALER?
Enquiring minds want to know...
:p

TC
TFL Survivor

[foghornl]

Rent the movie "War Games". Ther 'War Games Auto-dialer' was a modem [or bank of modems] that called numbers automatically untill it connected.

In the movie, kept calling back the kid that connected to the computer controlling war simulations in Norad.

I think the kid in the moive was Matthew Broderick, but I am not sure.

[ElToro]

get THEIR pre paid return envelopes and tape it to a box with a brick in it.. should cost them about 20 $ in postage to take delivery of that one... otherwise i dont want to be on their mailing list

[owen]

careful guys, some of the stuff you are talking about is Mail Fraud...a felony.

[Drjones]

Rent the movie "War Games". Ther 'War Games Auto-dialer' was a modem [or bank of modems] that called numbers automatically untill it connected.

A whole bank of modems!

Ha! That's what the telemarketing companies use too.

And that's why I got the Telezapper!!!

:evil:

[MicroBalrog]

New question: what's a Telezapper?

[BenW]

As I recall there were numerous discussion on this at TFL. It sounds great initially, but comes down to the Golden Rule. Would you want all the Brady-ites calling the NRA and doing the same thing? I certainly don't want my dues and contributions wasted on crank requests by anti-gunners.

[Drjones]

It is a device you can purchase that greatly reduces/completely eliminates calls you recieve from telemarketers.

Here's how it works:

Most telemarketing companies have computers that dial numbers randomly.

Often when you pick up the phone, you will hear a pause.

That is the computer transferring the call to a live person.

The Telezapper works by sending out a series of tones, which for some reason ends the call and supposedly erases your number from the marketing co's database.

It has worked quite well for us.

You can buy it as a stand-alone unit (just a small box) or as we did, integrated into a cordless phone.

:cool:

[MicroBalrog]

Well, there's far less Brady Campaign Members than NRA members, and the NRA has far more money. So its going to be harder for them than its is for us.

[4 eyed six shooter]

When they include postage paid envelopes, I load them up with junk and mail them back. I'll bet it really pisses them off. Sure hope so anyway.

[IRONFIST]

Something else you can do is contact the Canadian goverment and order a set of their firearms regulations. By their laws, they have to send them to anyone who requests a set. It is 1 huge book and a smaller book, printed in English and FRENCH! The postage on those books must have been huge! We would tear a handful of pages off whenever we needed to start a pile of kindling in our woodstove. When they ran out I ordered another set. I wish I could remember the toll free number so everyone could have their own set or six. Someone turned me onto the idea when I was on The Firing Line. All the best!

Michael in Sandy, OR

[BenW]

Well, there's far less Brady Campaign Members than NRA members, and the NRA has far more money.
What about the GOA or your state's Rifle and Pistol Association, neither of which could afford this kind of prank?

It's not a matter of numbers, it's a matter of ethics.

[Mark Tyson]

I agree with BenW. We should not use these kinds of below the belt tactics.

[MicroBalrog]

Well, the Canadian Government would be a good target anyways.

[zastros]

Point well taken, Ben. We are after all taking, "The High Road". Still, we should be able to come up with creative AND ethical ways to get our message across.