Two PA teens attempt to rob a Gettysburg gun shop, shoot clerk


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BullfrogKen
March 27, 2006, 08:39 PM
Although not mentioned in the article, the Lincoln Trading Post was a gun shop. These two are fortunate they were alive to appear in front of a judge for their no bail hearing. The elder, Miller, was reported on the local radio station as being homeschooled until high school, and had no "previous problems" and good morals.


http://www.abc27.com/news/stories/0306/313558.html

Video Update: Straban Township Shooting Injures Store Clerk, Two Teens Charged Monday March 27, 2006 4:51pm Reporter: Stacy Radtke Posted By: Kate Shackleford

Follow-up: Sixteen year-old Elliot Miller and 15 year-old Tyler Lee are charged with a number of things including attempted homicide and both boys are charged as adults in this case. Monday, we learned a little bit more about the two suspects. Tyler Lee is a Delone Catholic High School sophomore and Elliot Miller was until recently a sophomore at Littlestown High School. Miller just started attending a state charter school online.

The two boys are accused of shooting 42 year-old Michael Farley at the Lincoln Trading Post in Straban Township on Saturday morning in an attempted armed robbery. The criminal complaint says the suspects wanted guns and money. According to the Adams County District Attorney, 15 year-old Tyler Lee shot Farley three times including once in the head and chest. Elliot Miller's mother says she's stunned about what happened and apparently so is her son. "He's very upset. Very sorry about what's happened, I don't know what he was thinking."

Both boys were denied bail because of the seriousness of the crime and both are being held at the Adams County Correctional Facility. The victim in this case, Michael Farley, is at York Hospital. The family wants to maintain their privacy so no information is being released regarding his condition.


UPDATE: TWO ADAMS COUNTY TEENS ARE BEHIND BARS CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED HOMICIDE AFTER A WEEKEND SHOOTING. IT HAPPENED SATURDAY MORNING AT THE LINCOLN TRADING POST ON YORK ROAD IN STRABAN TOWNSHIP. POLICE SAY 15-YEAR-OLD TYLER LEE OF GETTYSBURG AND 16-YEAR-OLD JOSEPH MILLER OF LITTLESTOWN ENTERED THE STORE ARMED WITH GUNS. POLICE SAY THE TWO ORDERED EVERYONE TO THE GROUND, AND SHOT AN EMPLOYEE THREE TIMES.


A PAIR OF JUVENILES FACE FELONY CHARGES AFTER A SHOOTING AT AN ADAMS COUNTY BUSINESS. IT HAPPENED SATURDAY MORNING AT THE LINCOLN TRADING POST ON YORK ROAD IN STRABAN TOWNSHIP. POLICE SAY 15 YEAR OLD TYLER LEE OF GETTYSBURG AND 16 YEAR OLD JOSEPH MILLER OF LITTLESTOWN WERE DRESSED IN MILITARY GARB AND ARMED WITH GUNS WHEN THEY ENTERED THE STORE AND DEMANDED EVERYONE TO THE FLOOR, THE STORE CLERK WAS THEN SHOT SEVERAL TIMES. HE IS LISTED IN SERIOUS CONDITION. THE TWO BOYS FLED IN A VEHICLE.

SHORTLY THEREAFTER POLICE SPOTTED THE CAR TRAVELING EAST ON ROUTE 30. A CHASE ENSUED. THE SUSPECTS THEN HIT ANOTHER CAR AND CRASHED, THAT'S WHEN THEY WERE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY..
LEE AND MILLER FACE MULTIPLE CHARGES...A HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS WEEK.

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Scott Daw
March 28, 2006, 01:44 AM
It's my opinion that all people commiting violent crimes (rape, drug dealing, and in this case homicide/attempted homocide) should be tried as adults no matter their age, when found guilty, should be punishable only by death. none of the "we have to rehabilitate them" pc crap and after their first appeal fails, then they need to be put down. Ammo is cheap, the chair and the injection is not cost effective and keeping them locked up for life is rediculous and a burdon to the tax payers.

rayra
March 28, 2006, 01:55 AM
I'm curious what sort of crime spree they've been on beforehand. Seems a heck of a way to kick off a criminal career.

'he was such a nice boy'

Hellenistic Riot
March 28, 2006, 02:43 AM
It's my opinion that all people commiting violent crimes (rape, drug dealing, and in this case homicide/attempted homocide) should be tried as adults no matter their age, when found guilty, should be punishable only by death.

Yep, those drugs go out on the streets and kill people all by themselves...:banghead:

1 old 0311
March 28, 2006, 06:49 AM
"But he is VERY sorry about what happened." :evil: :evil: :evil:

Kevin

Janitor
March 28, 2006, 07:00 AM
"But he is VERY sorry about what happened."
Oh ... well. If that's the case, then never mind.

I'm sure it won't happen again.

/j

joab
March 28, 2006, 07:38 AM
Good enough for me Janitor.
Give apple pie and ice cream and send them home with no TV for a week and a 500 word essay on why gun control is necessary in America

DunedinDragon
March 28, 2006, 08:01 AM
Elliot Miller's mother says she's stunned about what happened and apparently so is her son. "He's very upset. Very sorry about what's happened, I don't know what he was thinking."


You think he's upset now? Wait till you see how upset he gets when Big Bruno comes into his cell for some late-night woopiee!!!!! I bet he gets REAL SORRY then!!!

gunsmith
March 28, 2006, 08:06 AM
I don't know what he was thinking."


at most he was thinking he wouldn't get caught.

OH25shooter
March 28, 2006, 09:08 AM
How many times have we heard about "good" teens dressed in camo and armed with guns. Why did they want more guns? And what were they planning ahead? I would have preferred to read, Gunstore clerk shoots two teen robbers. Both victims transported to local morgue.

carlrodd
March 28, 2006, 09:39 AM
You think he's upset now? Wait till you see how upset he gets when Big Bruno comes into his cell for some late-night woopiee!!!!! I bet he gets REAL SORRY then!!!

or when the guy in serious condition dies, and this kid is sitting on death row.

ball3006
March 28, 2006, 09:45 AM
most folks that go to gun shops here are CHL...........chris3

'Card
March 28, 2006, 10:25 AM
"I don't know what he was thinking."
I can tell you what he was thinking. He was thinking "I want some money, and I want more guns. Let's go into this gunshop and take some of each."

What he wasn't thinking was "If I'm lucky enough to get out of this mess with my life, then I get to spend the next decade or so down at the dark end of Cellblock D married to the guy with the most cigarettes."

Zero_DgZ
March 28, 2006, 10:26 AM
Scott Daw:
(Bunch of stuff I agree with.)


I'm obviously with you there. I never did get the whole 'oh, we can lock them up and rehabilitate them' spiel. Ditto with the people who count it as a big victory when they pressure some poor state or county into granting a murderer life behind bars instead of the death penalty.

What, so we can keep spending our tax money on these guys to inhabit the Hotel Alcatraz?

If I did something that had life in prison on the line, I think I'd rather you just took me out back and shot me. Beats twiddling my thumbs for the next 68 years.

Jamie C.
March 28, 2006, 10:48 AM
Ammo is cheap, the chair and the injection is not cost effective and keeping them locked up for life is rediculous and a burdon to the tax payers.

Rope is better... It's not only cheap, it's reusable. :D

And after witnessing a couple of public hangings, a few of these brats might reconsider a career as a violent criminal... A few adults might too.

And even if it doesn't deter anybody else, it makes damn sure that the particular individual(s) it's applied to don't become repeat offenders....


J.C.

Zero_DgZ
March 28, 2006, 11:26 AM
Hear, hear.

Every time I hear somebody whining about how much it costs the state to put a criminal to death I have to remind them just how little six rounds of .44 mag really cost.

BullfrogKen
March 28, 2006, 12:03 PM
Ball3006 said: If that had happened in Texas.....

most folks that go to gun shops here are CHL...........chris3

So do most Pennsyltuckians. I wager our process is easier, cheaper, and been in force longer than yours. Hell, I know it is. Less than $30 no matter jurisdiction, no training, no prints.

I'm trying to find out more about the place, but the best I can get right now is its a pawn shop licensed to sell. I've been to Gettysburg more times than I can count, but I don't know this shop well enough to comment on it clientelle.

If they had gone a dozen miles west on Rt 30 into Arendtsville and tried this at Taylor's Trading Post, they would be dead. Scott and his customers would know what to do when seeing some kids with guns come thru the door with "protective masks" on.

PlayboyPenguin
March 28, 2006, 12:16 PM
I don't think we can blame these kids. They probably didn't get hugged enough or got the wrong color bicycle when they were 12. It is clearly the parents fault. :banghead:

Warren
March 28, 2006, 04:58 PM
The elder, Miller, was reported on the local radio station as being homeschooled until high school, and had no "previous problems" and good morals.


And Miller's being homeschooled has what to do with anything?

Nothing? Well, the media pukes reason, lets mention it anyway to smear homeschoolers.

Bob F.
March 28, 2006, 10:53 PM
Ball'06: same here. If one of the plainsclothes guys weren't handy, one of us "Bubbas" would likely do the honors, probably 5 or 6 of us! Talk about STUPID!

Scott Daw
March 29, 2006, 12:40 AM
"I don't think we can blame these kids. They probably didn't get hugged enough or got the wrong color bicycle when they were 12. It is clearly the parents fault."

lol.... its more like the parents fault for hugging em to much and not teaching them about consequences. a whack on the rear will do that when the no's and time outs dont work.


I apolgize for the typo in my first post in this matter, I meant drug dealers not dealing. In either case its dispicable.

Langenator
March 29, 2006, 10:30 PM
Just for clarification...isn't robbing an FFL a federal offense? Or is it only that if they actually stole a gun or guns?

Will the local US DA be filing charges to send them to for a stay in a nice federal pound me in the ass prison, on top of the local charges?

BullfrogKen
March 29, 2006, 10:46 PM
too early to tell. Right now they're awaiting trial on no bail. One's attorney is trying to get it moved back into the juvenile court system.

AaronE
March 30, 2006, 11:51 AM
Just for clarification...isn't robbing an FFL a federal offense? Or is it only that if they actually stole a gun or guns?

Well not everywhere...when the punks stole 3 guns from my place amongst other things...the prosecuting atty failed to file for federal charges...instead plea-bargained it to possession of stolen property in exchange for testifying against the adult who "Fagined" them in the burglary. Come time to testify, the punk told them "FU":neener: ...and walked because there were no teeth in the back of the agreement. "because they always testify". I spent 3 years and a LOT of money going after the prosecutor, the court and the punk. I have recieved 2 restitution checks over the last 4 years...totalling $8.15, this on a $2000.00 judgement.:fire: :banghead: :cuss: :barf:

Am I happy....NO

Bob F.
March 30, 2006, 09:10 PM
I think Col. Jeff was right: "The solution to armed robbery is a dead robber--on the scene."

Scott Daw
March 30, 2006, 11:15 PM
Amen Bob.

Its a shame how now adays when a victim fights back and wins, how the victim then can get sued by the criminal for damages (medical & such) or the family will sue for wrongful death (like the criminal didnt deserve it). I personally believe if you want to break the law you should be ready to accept the outcome even if its your own ass being handed to you by your victim.

johnnytang24
March 30, 2006, 11:28 PM
Amen Bob.

Its a shame how now adays when a victim fights back and wins, how the victim then can get sued by the criminal for damages (medical & such) or the family will sue for wrongful death (like the criminal didnt deserve it). I personally believe if you want to break the law you should be ready to accept the outcome even if its your own ass being handed to you by your victim.

It's a shame how the media reports the criminal as the "victim" if they get killed or otherwise incapacitated.

Bob F.
March 31, 2006, 09:48 PM
The media has a limited vocabulary. Bad guy, perp, actor, scumbag, etc. are not included.

Bob

BullfrogKen
March 31, 2006, 10:13 PM
I have not seen any further news developments on the youths since the bail review hearing, where bail was denied.

swan hunter
March 31, 2006, 10:28 PM
If you can't make it through your teen years without killing...robbing...or raping, we don't need you! Last time I checked, there was no shortage of slimy people! they always make more!

JohnKSa
April 1, 2006, 01:18 AM
I think Col. Jeff was right: "The solution to armed robbery is a dead robber--on the scene."Col. Jeff may have SAID it, but Lance Thomas put it into practice.

If you ever need/want to buy a high-end watch or have one repaired/service, don't forget to support this man.

It cost him being shot five times and ultimately led to his closing his storefront and doing business exclusively on the net, but the world is better to the tune of 5 armed robbers dead and another shot for his efforts.

Here's the link to his company.

http://www.watchcompany.com/

And the link to the article about the shootings.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_156_26/ai_82533205

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