What does anyone know about this new Glock 37?


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Beorn
April 19, 2003, 08:48 PM
Okay, so it's a new "powerful" .45 Glock cartridge.

How does it rate with a .45 ACP? .45 Colt?

Anyone know any stats?

I'm just curious.:confused:

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cratz2
April 19, 2003, 10:06 PM
Only thing I know is from the local Glock armorer. Supposed to use some undisclosed newer powder that can achieve higher than 45ACP velocities in a smaller case. Stronger case as well, supposedly. This was at least a couple weeks ago and I'd hate to misquote but I think he was saying 1200 fps with the 185 Gr. and 11 fps with the 200 Gr. Basically 50 fps over typical hot +P loads in 45ACP. He relayed that the team of testing and development of this round included 7 of the top ballisticians in the world and said it was far from a minor undertaking. He says that Glock is putting a lot of faith and money into this new round and that if it is successful, there will be 9mm and 10mm versions to follow. Hotter than +P+ 9mm and as hot as standard full pressure (but not groundbreaking) 10mm velocities with the 10mm being next up. Basically trying to facilitate the most effective 45 and 10mm loads into a standard-ish Glock size grip though I'm pretty sure he said this is a new frame.

Several manufacturers are supposed to be to market with loaded ammo and available brass with the release of the gun.

hksw
April 19, 2003, 10:54 PM
"...and 11 fps with the 200 Gr."

Hmm, I haven't really check with the proper chronographic equipment but I'm pretty confident I can throw a styrofoam ball faster than 11 fps.

seeker_two
April 20, 2003, 03:40 PM
Yeah, but is your styrofoam ball engineered to expand at velocities as low as 9 fps?...:neener:

Glock needs a catchier name for that cartridge. How about the .45 LOBH (Lipstick on a Boar Hog--as useful as it would be :rolleyes: )

Cal4D4
April 20, 2003, 03:59 PM
Daring reloaders are already taking the .45ACP into the 35Kpsi range with .45 Super, .45 SMC (Triton) and the Rowland also. 10mm is sometimes reloaded to 40Kpsi with the occasional survivor. The only contribution the .45 Glock cartridge is going to add is a another limited appeal proprietary cartridge (.451 Detonics anyone?) which is defined as operating at higher pressures than SAAMI stock .45 ACP. Is 6 o'clock chamber support improved, or is it just a thicker web low on the case walls? What will make me want one?

Black_Talon
April 20, 2003, 04:02 PM
Does this round chamber in a regular 45acp chamber? If so, wouldn't that be rather dangerous?

petej88
April 20, 2003, 06:16 PM
Here's a little info and pics:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/petej/#Introduction

Tom B
April 20, 2003, 06:22 PM
Can you say KABOOM! Sorry...I won't get this started again...Or will I! :evil: :neener:

petej88
April 20, 2003, 06:37 PM
Actually, the new .45 Glock caliber might be a bit more kaboom proof since Speer has told me that the ammo has roughly the same psi as the .45ACP.

The big gap the Glock37/.45G fills, IS that "folks with small to medium hands" can launch "10 + 1 .45 bullets" with a "standard sized Glock grip", using "beefed up brass", and a nice low .45 pressure making it more "kaboom proof", compared to say a .40. ;)

Sven
April 20, 2003, 07:02 PM
"BIG IN A VERY SMALL WAY"

That's the marketing slogan Glock is using - I predict this slogan will also describe the commercial launch.

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Pete - in all seriousness, thanks for the great site with all that info.

Cal4D4
April 20, 2003, 08:57 PM
Looks like the .45G would chamber in a .45 ACP and headspace off the extractor, much like a .40 S&W in the 10MM. Not generally a good practice.

Lone_Gunman
April 20, 2003, 09:11 PM
Will the 45 Glock work in a S&W 625 using moon clips?

cratz2
May 15, 2003, 02:40 PM
Not to drag this up again, just talked with the local armorer and he said them have 70,000 Glock 37s built and ready to ship and the ball ammo is good to go but there is some sort of problem with the defensive ammo. And he was telling me that it is supposed to be a bit higher pressures than with +P 45ACP round. And he said it is actually a different diameter bullet they will be using. May be more info over on GlockTalk but I find it difficult to read through some of the stuff over there. :rolleyes:

And on my upper post... I meant, 200 Gr at 1,100 fps, not 11 fps. :p

10-Ring
May 15, 2003, 06:30 PM
For some reason, everytime I read anything about the 45 G.A.P., it reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes & the little boy not seeing them :rolleyes:

9x19
May 15, 2003, 06:40 PM
I WANT ONE!!!

Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee, gimmee, gimmee!

Hey, I ran out and bought a .17HMR as soon as I could and that's been a blast!

Why not give a new cartridge a try? It might be the bees knees in the compact world... Kahr, Kel-Tec, etc.... won't know until we try. :D

arinvolvo
May 16, 2003, 08:38 AM
Seems as if every manufacturer thinks they need their own cartridge....which is cool, cause some of them take off...like the 357 sig...

but there has been a plethora lately...even north american arms thinks they need their own caliber...32 NAA....I dont think we will be seeing that, or the 45 GAP in stores anytime soon.

hell, even a cartridge as popular as the 357 sig is sometimes hard to find locally..

arinvolvo
May 16, 2003, 08:39 AM
I am actually waiting for the .380 Lorcin cartridge to come out...I read that it will break any pistol that will shoot it.:D

rgc
May 16, 2003, 12:14 PM
performs like they say it will, it may not take off (so to speak) with the Glock 37. However, seeing how the 37 is the same size as the 17/22 in Glock’s line up, it could do rather well when they release it in a 26/27 size gun. Say six or seven rounds of .45 in a Glock 26 size package would be rather fun and convenient.

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