Can anyone ID this shot gun?


March 29, 2006, 03:36 PM
It is from the BBC News web site, and the caption is: "Turkish special forces fire pepper spray to disperse Kurdish rioters in the eastern city of Diyarbakir."

Does this mean those pepper spray shotgun rounds I see for sale next to the dragon's breath rounds really are effective? Does anyone know if any other outfits are using shotgun pepper or CS gas rounds?

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March 29, 2006, 05:41 PM
It is hard to tell, but my bet is it is either a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 with extended magazine tube or some really cheap foreign gun that nobody has every heard of.

March 29, 2006, 06:32 PM
Sure looks like a Remington 870 receiver, and I can't see a safety on the top.

Fred Fuller
March 29, 2006, 07:13 PM
How about this:

-with a folding stock.

Or maybe a PGO and sling:


March 30, 2006, 07:58 AM
I think Lee nailed it, Escort Aimguard made by Turkish manufacture Hatsan Arms Co.
The pistol grip in the news photo looks a little more vertical than the ones for sale here, and the S-curve on the folding stock looks more extreme, but the receiver, barrel/magazine clamp, and space between the barrel and magazine are right on.

Fred Fuller
March 30, 2006, 08:22 AM
They make a PGO (pistol grip only) stock for this one too- I think what looks like a folding stock in the wire photo is actually a sling. Just guessing, can't really tell too much from the angle shown.

Note that what is being fired is less lethal rounds and these very likely pack less recoil than even a standard birdshot round- the technique shown being used here is not one I would recommend for neophytes their first time out with a PGO stock. Note also the slung M-16, that's why I think what is seen in the picture is a sling on the PGO shotgun and not a folding stock, now that I look a bit harder.


July 29, 2006, 06:46 PM
anyone know of any place in the usa that sells the hatsan escort pistol grip and magazine extension?? or maybe a overseas place that will be willing to send over?

July 29, 2006, 08:08 PM
Good call on the Hatson/Akkar shotgun. Interestingly enough, it closely resembles the LP 12 ( manufactured by Zastava, who also happens to have business ties to Charles Daly/KBI.

While we're at it, why not just list a number of Turkish small arms manufacturers (, and include one ( that slipped by NISAT's radar? :D

Edit: Take a look at some of the other firearms offered by Akkar ( (perhaps exclusively in Turkey?). You will find them listed under "Urunler." They have some very distinct designs (

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