Can anyone ID this shot gun?


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LaEscopeta
March 29, 2006, 04:36 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41500000/jpg/_41500770_turkey_ap416.jpg
It is from the BBC News web site, and the caption is: "Turkish special forces fire pepper spray to disperse Kurdish rioters in the eastern city of Diyarbakir."

Does this mean those pepper spray shotgun rounds I see for sale next to the dragon's breath rounds really are effective? Does anyone know if any other outfits are using shotgun pepper or CS gas rounds?

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kennyboy
March 29, 2006, 06:41 PM
It is hard to tell, but my bet is it is either a Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 with extended magazine tube or some really cheap foreign gun that nobody has every heard of.

adaman04
March 29, 2006, 07:32 PM
Sure looks like a Remington 870 receiver, and I can't see a safety on the top.

Fred Fuller
March 29, 2006, 08:13 PM
How about this:

http://froogle.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=45894319

-with a folding stock.

http://www.turkishsellers.com/showproduct.aspx?type=prod&id=776346&compid=6707

Or maybe a PGO and sling:

http://www.hatsan.com.tr/escort_aimguard.asp

lpl/nc

LaEscopeta
March 30, 2006, 08:58 AM
http://www.ttn.com.tr/ttn/TTDS/pics/6707/776346.jpg
I think Lee nailed it, Escort Aimguard made by Turkish manufacture Hatsan Arms Co.
The pistol grip in the news photo looks a little more vertical than the ones for sale here, and the S-curve on the folding stock looks more extreme, but the receiver, barrel/magazine clamp, and space between the barrel and magazine are right on.

Fred Fuller
March 30, 2006, 09:22 AM
They make a PGO (pistol grip only) stock for this one too- I think what looks like a folding stock in the wire photo is actually a sling. Just guessing, can't really tell too much from the angle shown.

Note that what is being fired is less lethal rounds and these very likely pack less recoil than even a standard birdshot round- the technique shown being used here is not one I would recommend for neophytes their first time out with a PGO stock. Note also the slung M-16, that's why I think what is seen in the picture is a sling on the PGO shotgun and not a folding stock, now that I look a bit harder.

lpl/nc

http://www.hatsan.com.tr/big_html/escort_aimguard_pistolgrip.html

mrk
July 29, 2006, 07:46 PM
anyone know of any place in the usa that sells the hatsan escort pistol grip and magazine extension?? or maybe a overseas place that will be willing to send over?

Leonovicz
July 29, 2006, 09:08 PM
Good call on the Hatson/Akkar shotgun. Interestingly enough, it closely resembles the LP 12 (http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/images/civilni/lovacke_puske/13521.htm) manufactured by Zastava, who also happens to have business ties to Charles Daly/KBI.

While we're at it, why not just list a number of Turkish small arms manufacturers (http://www.nisat.org/Production/CountryProduction/Omega2001Split/Turkey.html), and include one (http://www.sarsilmaz.com/eng/main.htm) that slipped by NISAT's radar? :D

Edit: Take a look at some of the other firearms offered by Akkar (http://www.akkar.com.tr/htm/turkce.htm) (perhaps exclusively in Turkey?). You will find them listed under "Urunler." They have some very distinct designs (http://www.akkar.com.tr/htm/taktik.htm).

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