Asking an opinion from our resident "gun porn" photographers


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Airwolf
April 20, 2003, 06:43 PM
I posted this on another firearms site and got a 50/50 response back.

I ask the masters of camera and lighting here on THR...

Is this a perfectly good Beretta 9000 and accessories that has been attacked with a can of gold Krylon or a serious white balance/lighting issue?

http://gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=8461817

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Darrin
April 20, 2003, 06:59 PM
If that were my camera, the problem would be an indoor photo without the flash. (bright enough, but funky light) Therefore, I'd correct my problem by turning the flash on or taking the photo outside or placing next to a window.

How did you take this pic and with what?
http://gunbroker.com/pixhost/2003-02-02/jb50cal_1044544382_ber01.JPG

photo_guy
April 20, 2003, 07:04 PM
My guess is it is a color balance issue. It looks like a typical daylight balanced system used with conventional tungsten lamps (i.e. household light bulbs).

Note that the foam and case has the same yellow/gold tint to it as the gun.

Airwolf
April 20, 2003, 07:04 PM
Found it surfing Gunbroker last night. I just bought a 9000 and was comparing prices when I stumbled upon it.

Darrin
April 20, 2003, 07:07 PM
Found it surfing Gunbroker last night. I just bought a 9000 and was comparing prices when I stumbled upon it. Hmm...

*re-reads airwolf's first post...*

You didn't take that pic, huh? Oops... :uhoh:

Well, if it were my camera that took the pic, the first part of my last post still stands as my response. ;)

Old Fuff
April 20, 2003, 07:16 PM
I wonder if they're isn't something to the "gold paint" idea. Notice that at the top of the picture there is something silver colored (perhaps a knife handle) and the colors appear to be true.

Tamara
April 20, 2003, 07:37 PM
Dollars to donuts that thing was taken by available light under an incandescent bulb.

My darkroom skills are rusty, but a bit of piddling with the color balance in PainShop Pro gave the following result. (It'd take a little more work to get true color; it helps to have something that is supposed to be white in the picture to use as a reference.)

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=236685

Erik Jensen
April 20, 2003, 07:55 PM
maybe Beretta is making the 9000 in olive green and hasn't released much information about it?

AR-10
April 20, 2003, 08:09 PM
Unless the owner of the gun spray painted the foam liner of the guncase, I'd say the color is a result of photo skills such as my own.

"Gun Porn" is a term I dislike. Porn has negative conotations, to say the least.

Standing Wolf
April 20, 2003, 08:21 PM
It looks like gold paint and bad photography to me—and it doesn't look like a very interesting firearm, either.

raz-0
April 20, 2003, 10:20 PM
it's bad photography and bad lighting.

here's a color corrected version that looks like the right colors for something badly lit indoors. Looks like perhaps a bright outdoor lightsource behind it and a desk lamp from the front left combined with bad settings on a digital camera. :P


http://www.bloodimage.com/jb50cal_1044544382_ber01.JPG

Matt G
April 21, 2003, 06:37 PM
Very nice job of photo editing.

I'm typically using my scanner software (Visioneer Paperport 5.3.1) to adjust digital images. The SW that came with my Polaroid is capable of such stuff, but is harder to use. At work we've taken to using MS Picture It! for photo editing, which has its moments. All in all, I'd LURV to play with PhotoShop or the like. Just can't bring myself to spend the good money, when I'd prol'ly get better results with a good large-objective-lens'd camera.

"Gun Porn" is a term that first cracked me up, but it's too descriptive not to use. The above technique would have to be described as "soft gun porn," which I prefer. "Hard gun porn," which I tend to take as including "sexy" models in lurid poses, does nothing for me. Go figure.

(Matt G's wife walks by the computer, and her eye catches a choice term or two, above. "Well, you always did like to keep the hot side hot, and the cold side..." ;) )

BerettaNut92
April 21, 2003, 09:32 PM
"Gun Porn" is a term that first cracked me up, but it's too descriptive not to use. The above technique would have to be described as "soft gun porn," which I prefer. "Hard gun porn," which I tend to take as including "sexy" models in lurid poses, does nothing for me. Go figure.

Same here...Twoblink sent me this site with all these models, actresses, etc. with guns and did nothing for me. On the other hand, y'all know about my trip to Korea....:o

MattG, check out Photoshop elements, my buddy has it and says it's just as good as Photoshop if you don't use all the hardcore functions. I have Photoshop 5.0 LE (law enforcement) that came with my Canon G2 Tactical. I don't use most of the silly filters and stuff even there.

HABU
April 21, 2003, 09:59 PM
Looks to me as though Uday Hussein is trying to liquidate some of his aresnal!:neener:

raz-0
April 21, 2003, 10:04 PM
photoshop elements and paint shop pro are bith under $100 and contain all you might need to touch up digital photgraphs.

After playing with this pic, I've done a few more from various places (web sites, gunbroker), and was thinking of writing up a web page with some tutorials for retouching your gun photos.

Anyone think it would be useful?

BerettaNut92
April 21, 2003, 10:15 PM
raz-0, articles on touching up would be nice, but an once of prevention is..yadda yadda...I found no matter how I try to touch it up, it always turns out better if I just reshoot it. Just my two $

tex_n_cal
April 21, 2003, 10:48 PM
I think the above comments are pretty much on the money. Incandescent lighting (that is, tungsten filament or plain 'ol light bulbs) have a warm color balance that can look yellow or orange in photos. The effect seems worse with film, than digital.

One reason to use flash is the fact it is color-neutral, avoiding most of these problems.

This is a recent example of some of my gun (and knife) photos. I can't say I really like the term "gun porn" either, and I've no female type around to object to what's on my computer!

Monkeyleg
April 21, 2003, 10:51 PM
Instead of "gun porn," how about "gun paparazzi?" I think it pays more respect to those who have posted some great photos.

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