GregGry
April 7, 2006, 09:14 PM
Hello most knoledgeable high roaders :). I have a problem on my hands, and I figured I would ask for advice. I went shooting with a woman I am friends with at school, tonight, and she brought along her g19 (I believe it was a g19, it could have been a g22, I will find out for sure tonight), and she had numerous issues with it. Let me explain:
Since she is pretty new to shooting, she first started out by not really hitting the small torso target at around 21 feet. After having her change her grip, and how she was using her trigger finger, she managed to get pretty much all of the shots on the paper, which I feel is a big acomplishment. Everything was going well until an ugly problem eventually reared its head, after she shot maybe 60 to 70 rounds.
She would shoot the pistol, and would get all sorts of jams. Any jam you can imagine, she got, everytime she pulled the trigger. To give you an idea, lets assume the mag is fully loaded, the slide is racked, ones in the pipe ready. She fires it, and rather then it loading a new round into the chamber, it would either (A) stove pipe the empty brass, (B) the actual bullet would be into the beginning of the chamber, but its caught and will not chamber (C) The round is caught before entering the chamber, Or (d) pretty much anything else like that.
I would clear the jam for her, give the firearm back, and then the same thing would happen. Now I personally shot atleast 20 rounds though it, with no problem whatso ever, and pretty damn good accuracy. So I am really stumped as to what it could be. Watching her shoot, it does seem that she is limp wristing it somewhat, but not to the point that I think would caue a problem.
Also, the ammo that was used was a mix of UMC yellow box, and range reloads, same results either way. Same results with either mag that came with the pistol. As a FYI the pistol was bought new, and my guess has under 300 rounds through it.
What do you guys think it could be? Realistically the grip is to big for her hands (she has small hands) in my opinion. She is not the strongest gal on the planet either, and I could tell after more then 50 shots, she was tiring a bit. So limp wristing could be a factor, but I can't believe that the limp wristing is the entire story. I just want her to have a reliable firearm, so she can enjoy shooting more. Any advice anyone can provide would be greatly apperciated...
Some last tid bits of info: She had the same problem before tonight, with diffrent ammo then what was shot tonight. So I really don't think its directly ammo related. Also, I noticed on two failure to feed occasions, that the round was actually cocked to the left on the feed ramp. So basically rather then going up the feed ramp straight, the entire cartridge was angled, and stood 0 chance of going into the chamber. I inspected the mags, and nothing seemed out of wack, and the spring pressure seemed good.
Since she is pretty new to shooting, she first started out by not really hitting the small torso target at around 21 feet. After having her change her grip, and how she was using her trigger finger, she managed to get pretty much all of the shots on the paper, which I feel is a big acomplishment. Everything was going well until an ugly problem eventually reared its head, after she shot maybe 60 to 70 rounds.
She would shoot the pistol, and would get all sorts of jams. Any jam you can imagine, she got, everytime she pulled the trigger. To give you an idea, lets assume the mag is fully loaded, the slide is racked, ones in the pipe ready. She fires it, and rather then it loading a new round into the chamber, it would either (A) stove pipe the empty brass, (B) the actual bullet would be into the beginning of the chamber, but its caught and will not chamber (C) The round is caught before entering the chamber, Or (d) pretty much anything else like that.
I would clear the jam for her, give the firearm back, and then the same thing would happen. Now I personally shot atleast 20 rounds though it, with no problem whatso ever, and pretty damn good accuracy. So I am really stumped as to what it could be. Watching her shoot, it does seem that she is limp wristing it somewhat, but not to the point that I think would caue a problem.
Also, the ammo that was used was a mix of UMC yellow box, and range reloads, same results either way. Same results with either mag that came with the pistol. As a FYI the pistol was bought new, and my guess has under 300 rounds through it.
What do you guys think it could be? Realistically the grip is to big for her hands (she has small hands) in my opinion. She is not the strongest gal on the planet either, and I could tell after more then 50 shots, she was tiring a bit. So limp wristing could be a factor, but I can't believe that the limp wristing is the entire story. I just want her to have a reliable firearm, so she can enjoy shooting more. Any advice anyone can provide would be greatly apperciated...
Some last tid bits of info: She had the same problem before tonight, with diffrent ammo then what was shot tonight. So I really don't think its directly ammo related. Also, I noticed on two failure to feed occasions, that the round was actually cocked to the left on the feed ramp. So basically rather then going up the feed ramp straight, the entire cartridge was angled, and stood 0 chance of going into the chamber. I inspected the mags, and nothing seemed out of wack, and the spring pressure seemed good.