(UK) Terror weapons taken off Coventry's streets


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Drizzt
April 8, 2006, 11:27 AM
Terror weapons taken off Coventry's streets

Apr 7 2006

by Ben Griffin, crime reporter

THESE horrifying knives have been taken off the streets of Coventry in the last 10 days.

They are examples of the kinds of blades police and the Evening Telegraph are trying to banish from the city during the One Knife One Life campaign.

The campaign, which was launched in the city last week, aims to teach youngsters - and particularly teenage boys - the dangers of knives.

Police say young people carry knives to make themselves feel more secure, or because they know other people do.

They say they don't think about the potentially devastating consequences carrying a knife can have.

During the Evening Telegraph-backed campaign police are going into schools teaching youngsters that one stab wound can kill.

And they are encouraging people to bin a blade in an amnesty which runs until May.

They are also searching people they suspect to be carrying knives and seizing them.

Last week they took a knife from a teenager when they searched him in Brightmere Road, Radford.

The blade, hidden inside a working cigarette lighter, flicks out at the push of a button.

The youngster who had the knife has been spoken to by police but has not been charged.

Another horrifying knife was found at a house police were searching in Fowler Road, Radford.

Officers had gone to the house using a search warrant for drugs and found the hunting knife.

The owner handed it over under the amnesty.

Sergeant Phil Radbourne, of Little Park Street police, said: "Police have been proactive during the campaign and have taken two more knives that could possibly be out on the streets at some point.

"We are encouraging people to take knives to the knife amnesty bins and get them off the streets.

"There is also a lot of school work going on, there are officers on the streets promoting the One Knife One Life campaign, posters have gone up in the area, in shops and pubs and places where young people gather, and there are stop checks and searches."

http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/tm_objectid=16915296&method=full&siteid=50003&headline=terror-weapons-taken-off-coventry-s-streets-name_page.html

At first I thought the article was being sarcastic when referring to these knives as 'terror weapons', but I think they actually believe this garbage....

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RevDisk
April 8, 2006, 11:38 AM
This is from the Onion, right? It's just sarcastic?

Right?

RIGHT?


sigh...

Owen
April 8, 2006, 11:56 AM
That's not a hunting knife. It's an AK bayonet.

Oh yeah, :rolleyes:

Str8Shooter
April 8, 2006, 12:11 PM
And just think...there are probably dozens of kitchens still out there, just brimming with "horrifying" knives! <shudder>

DontBurnMyFlag
April 8, 2006, 12:35 PM
:fire: "Another horrifying knife was found at a house police were searching in Fowler Road, Radford."


Who does this guy think he is? Who does the english govt think they are?

how long before it comes here?!:fire: :banghead: :cuss:

there arent enough emoticons for what i am feeling haha

robert garner
April 8, 2006, 01:01 PM
or is orchidectomy a mental process now?

VirgilCaine
April 8, 2006, 01:04 PM
Cigarette lighter knife? Cool!

American By Blood
April 8, 2006, 01:12 PM
"Liberalism is an escape from hardness into softness, from masculinity into femininity, from History into herd-grazing, from reality into herbivorous dreams, from Destiny into Happiness."

Zero_DgZ
April 8, 2006, 01:16 PM
I love how the author and the quoted parties keep thowing around scare words like "horrifying" and bang on about how "dangerous" it is to carry a knife without telling you why (other than the fact that the police will beat you up and take it).

You know, if they slanted that article a little more they'd run the risk of having all the text roll right off of it and onto the floor.

Pathetic.

Soybomb
April 8, 2006, 02:21 PM
They are also searching people they suspect to be carrying knives
What, if any, are your rights to protection from being searched in the UK?

Not that it matters I guess, as I recall in the US we've stopped 4th amendment rights if you say ride a subway in nyc.

Across The Pond
April 8, 2006, 02:38 PM
I think that some UK police officers post here, but in the absence of such... this is lifted from

http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/law/introuble/stopandsearch :

A search without consent may only be carried out by the police on grounds of 'reasonable suspicion', such as furtive (suspicious) behaviour or a tip-off that the person in question has caused an offence. If so, the police must:



Identify themselves, giving their names and police station
Identify grounds for suspicion
Explain exactly what they're looking for
Inform the suspect that they will be able to see a copy of the record of the search within a year

A public search should only consist of a basic inspection of outer clothing (which can include turning out your pockets More intimate searches should be done by an officer of the same sex. Under the Misuse of Drugs Act, police may take a suspect to the station without a formal arrest in order to conduct a more detailed search. Intimate searches of body orifices must be conducted by a doctor or nurse in a hospital of clinic, but only under written authority by a police superintendent who suspects a Class A drug (such as heroin or cocaine) has been concealed.

Regds, ATP

Crimson
April 8, 2006, 04:01 PM
I hate my country:banghead:

gc70
April 8, 2006, 05:15 PM
The article's writer should never visit my house - for his own good. He would undoubtedly have a coronary if he saw the 'horrifying arsenal' of axe, hatchet, swing blade, and machete in my garage.

Standing Wolf
April 8, 2006, 10:36 PM
Emasculation of Empire
or is orchidectomy a mental process now?

The slave who forges his own irons is the most trustworthy.

Manedwolf
April 8, 2006, 10:40 PM
A friend of mine in the UK in one of the post-industrial cities carries a knife for defense because, especially on weekends, people go into pubs, get absolutely smashed, then go out with bats and boards and break things or randomly beat the #$*! out of people for fun. (Yes, like A Clockwork Orange). Because people CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES.

Their motorcycle was recently just burnt by vandals, too, for no reason.

Great place, huh?

Cosmoline
April 8, 2006, 10:52 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/Gussick/Knife.jpg

mcg-doc
April 8, 2006, 10:55 PM
Last fall I was in Europe and bumped into a young British lad in one of the Munich's watering wholes. He told me he carries a big adjustable wrench when he is out and about at night. You can easily crush a skull with it and it is legal!

AF_INT1N0
April 9, 2006, 12:19 PM
When it's time to bury your assault knives...:eek:

It was time to dig up your rifles a long, long time ago...:eek:

Too bad you don't have them any more.:(

Fortunately, I've heard the black market in Europe is easy to find.

Cosmoline
April 9, 2006, 01:24 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/Gussick/Beeches2.jpg

TallPine
April 9, 2006, 01:46 PM
Cosmoline :D

chorlton
April 9, 2006, 02:12 PM
First of all, those people are in the business of selling papers, and shocking stories help that. Secondly, there is a big problem with kids carrying knives and stabbing eachother on the streets in their tower blocks and in school. Kids should not be armed (with the exception of defensive pepper sprays), whatever country they are in. Adults are a different matter of course, because they are supposedly more mature etc. I think that at least making pepper spray legal to carry would be a step in the right direction. For the record I spent 25 years in the UK and the only time I carried a weapon was when doing a job where I occasionally chased shoplifters with brass knuckles in my pocket. Until a wave of "asylum seekers" fro eastern Europe came to the area (where knives are part of their culture, apparently), we didnt have that kind of trouble. Having said that, all cities have their bad bits. Whats my point? Well I think the campaign is aimed at stopping kids from carrying knives, which can only be a good thing.

Cosmoline
April 9, 2006, 02:52 PM
SInce when is it a bad thing for kids to have knives? I carried a razor sharp Buck knife starting at the age of nine. I just gave my nephew one for Christmas. I think the Brits really are living on a different planet. The problem is not firearms or knives or pointed sticks. The problem is why their drunken yobos seem hell-bent on attacking each other at the drop of a hat. Though the UK prides itself on being a less violent nation than the US, the statistics actually show a far greater rate of assaults there than here. People over there seem to believe they have license to lay hand on one another and don't view brutal beatings as a real problem. They blame the bricks and knives rather than their own bizarre drinking culture.

El Tejon
April 9, 2006, 03:43 PM
Right then, Cosmo, old chap, but a good glassing is just a rite of passage.:D

chorlton
April 9, 2006, 05:57 PM
There aint nothing wrong with the drinking culture :D Or is it the evil beer?
Cosmo, where did you live when you had the knife?
The problem is that the kids in question now think its cool to carry a knife and threaten people. The drunken yobs have always been around.

Cosmoline
April 9, 2006, 06:04 PM
I lived in the free world. Louisiana, Oregon, Washington, and points between.

There's nothing wrong with British beer. I like the stuff. The problem lies with British beer drinkers, and with modern British government. The population has been transformed into the state of infancy. They're not just children, they're toddlers. They can't even be trusted with sharp objects by the nanny state.

mordechaianiliewicz
April 9, 2006, 06:10 PM
I've given up on Britain ever being a decent place again. I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the place is populated by a combination of bliss ninny cowards, dumb but viscious criminals, and a handfull of decent folks.

Decent folks are the lowest number here, and I suggest the ones that know what liberty is leave now. Your country is gone, but we need help here. We have bliss ninny trash here.

(sorry fot the rant)

chorlton
April 9, 2006, 06:18 PM
cosmo, maybe I should have been more specific. What kind of area - country, city, suburbs...
There is a problem with the attitudes within the British establishment, I agree. However, unless you've seen it all first-hand, recently, it would be wrong to write-off a whole population (unless of course you believe everything the media tells you...).

Cosmoline
April 9, 2006, 06:19 PM
I don't think the UK is a lost cause. Actually I think the best thing that can happen is for the socialists to enact all of their dream legislation. A completely disarmed populace "protected" by 24/7 ubiquitous surveillance and heavily armed police squads with itchy fingers. I think the last of the shotguns should be taken away as well as any scary looking kitchen utensils. Only then will the stiff-necked john bulls finally wake up. As it is they can always point to the exceptions and see mental refuge in the fact that the state isn't going to take THEIR shotgun or THEIR knife.

Why? Because I still have faith in one class of people in the UK--THE CRIMINALS. They remain inventive, intelligent and exceedingly violent. The more the state cracks down on the ability of the law abiding to defend themselves, the more liberties the yobos and yardies will take. In time "A Clockwork Orange" will become stark reality, and the violence will become so extreme no amount of statistic cooking will be able to cover it up.

What kind of area - country, city, suburbs

All kinds. From the bayous of SW LA to urban SE Portland and suburban Vancouver. I never thought twice about having a knife. I probably lost a quart of blood to the thing over the years, but I had a lot of fun carving.

LAR-15
April 9, 2006, 06:23 PM
So are they going to ban all knives except those 'particularly suitable and generally recognized for culinary purposes'?

Dragun
April 9, 2006, 06:32 PM
carried a knife since i was ten years old as did all my brothers. my kids (3 boys and 1 girl) have had knives since they were 10. none of us have ever stabbed one another or anyone else. a knife is a tool made to cut things and make life easier. nothing more, nothing less. it is inanimate and doesn't care what it cuts. what 'you' decide to cut with 'yours' is up to 'you'. maybe if the UK would enforce punishment on people instead knives, they would stop cutting other people. as it is, they will just use something else like an evil wrench or maybe a #3 philips head screwdriver. i heard those are pretty evil...

now the people who would never go around cutting other people have no way to protect themselves from those who do. good thing the bad guys are all listening to the law and turning their knives.

in America, if you cut someone 'you' get punished, not the knife.

Autolycus
April 9, 2006, 06:40 PM
This is to funny. I can't believe how sad it is when the government is actually disarming the people of kitchen utensils. When are they going to bann broom sticks, wrenches, razor blades, baseball bats, hockey sticks, golf clubs, and just ban wood. Table legs are now assault weapons. I am hoping that our country never gets so crazy and assinine but I think it will soon.

sacp81170a
April 9, 2006, 07:33 PM
Don't know whether this is true or not, but I remember hearing or reading somewhere why Chinese food in general consists of bite sized chunks of whatever. It seems that after the Mongols conquered the Chinese, they outlawed the personal possession of knives as a method of arms control. The Chinese were allowed one communal knife per certain number of families, and in consequence, if you wanted your food cut up, you had to do it before you cooked it with the one knife in a central location. So, maybe British cooking will improve if this happens. :neener:

ACP230
April 9, 2006, 07:45 PM
I guess the Brits don't read Kipling any more.

The Gods Of The Copybook Headings would just give them all a headache.
Probably should be banned as a "horrifying" poem, too.

The grudging respect I had for the Brits is certainly gone now.

confed sailor
April 9, 2006, 08:16 PM
this seems a bit silly. to make a knife requires a material that can take and hold (for atleast one use) an edge, and something abrasive to give it that edge.

dont convicts in our prison system make shanks from compacted paper and toothpaste? im sure those are non-magnetic.

another unenforceable law that will succeed because of passive compliance of British "Subjects"

oh by gorry, it will be a real horrorshow time, with our flashy britvas, and great bolshy boots, ending the night with a bit of ludwig-van's 9th

(not a i hate england rant, just a statement of sad sad fact)

Str8Shooter
April 10, 2006, 01:31 AM
Well, if you want to see just how far things have gone in Britain, read this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/10/31/do3102.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2004/10/31/ixop.html

It appears you're not allowed to carry ANYTHING that could be used as a defensive weapon, nor can you attack an intruder in your own home.

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